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Kiero

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.

Coronaviruses have been around since we split off from monkeys. Before 2020, no one bothered using crap tests that don't even work to distinguish between coronaviruses, influenza, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses and all the other causes of the sniffles that carried off the vulnerable every winter. Tens of thousands die of respiratory infections in this country every year.
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Pat

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 09:47:21 AM
Irrelevant. By any measure, Covid-19 caused more deaths from 2019-present that at any date before 2019.

Utterly vital a question, because the "covid deaths" figure is concocted bollocks. Anyone who died from absolutely anything, but happened to test positive within the last month/two months is included. That's bullshit.

I refer back to the Freedom of Information request responded to a while back by a Birmingham hospital trust. 98% of those who died "with" covid were killed by their underlying condition, not by covid.
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.
There's a reasonable argument that the happyhappyfunfunlockdown virus originated in Mojiang, where 3 miners died from a SARS-like disease in 2012, because the samples collected by the Wuhan lab (RaTG13) are the closest known relative of SARS-Cov-19. China of course tried to cover it up, but they weren't quick enough to erase all the evidence.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.

Coronaviruses have been around since we split off from monkeys. Before 2020, no one bothered using crap tests that don't even work to distinguish between coronaviruses, influenza, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses and all the other causes of the sniffles that carried off the vulnerable every winter. Tens of thousands die of respiratory infections in this country every year.
I've spent over a decade in healthcare, and I can tell you that we never had the types of hospitalizations and deaths from "sniffles" that we've seen in the last 18 months. You are totally full of shit.

HappyDaze

#678
Quote from: Pat on October 05, 2021, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 09:47:21 AM
Irrelevant. By any measure, Covid-19 caused more deaths from 2019-present that at any date before 2019.

Utterly vital a question, because the "covid deaths" figure is concocted bollocks. Anyone who died from absolutely anything, but happened to test positive within the last month/two months is included. That's bullshit.

I refer back to the Freedom of Information request responded to a while back by a Birmingham hospital trust. 98% of those who died "with" covid were killed by their underlying condition, not by covid.
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.
There's a reasonable argument that the happyhappyfunfunlockdown virus originated in Mojiang, where 3 miners died from a SARS-like disease in 2012, because the samples collected by the Wuhan lab (RaTG13) are the closest known relative of SARS-Cov-19. China of course tried to cover it up, but they weren't quick enough to erase all the evidence.
That would still be an exceptional incident, not an example of an endemic pathogen. Kiero the Dumbass has stated that Covid-19 is just a "seasonal virus" that's always been around.

Pat

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: Pat on October 05, 2021, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 11:40:33 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 09:47:21 AM
Irrelevant. By any measure, Covid-19 caused more deaths from 2019-present that at any date before 2019.

Utterly vital a question, because the "covid deaths" figure is concocted bollocks. Anyone who died from absolutely anything, but happened to test positive within the last month/two months is included. That's bullshit.

I refer back to the Freedom of Information request responded to a while back by a Birmingham hospital trust. 98% of those who died "with" covid were killed by their underlying condition, not by covid.
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.
There's a reasonable argument that the happyhappyfunfunlockdown virus originated in Mojiang, where 3 miners died from a SARS-like disease in 2012, because the samples collected by the Wuhan lab (RaTG13) are the closest known relative of SARS-Cov-19. China of course tried to cover it up, but they weren't quick enough to erase all the evidence.
That would still be an exceptional incident, not an example of an endemic pathogen. Kiero the Dumbass has stated that Covid-19 is just a "seasonal virus" that's always been around.
It's true that coronaviruses have been around forever, and it's also true the Pooh Bear variant wasn't endemic anywhere until late 2019. You're being precise and careful with your wording, Kiero is being sloppy and jumping around a lot.

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.

Coronaviruses have been around since we split off from monkeys. Before 2020, no one bothered using crap tests that don't even work to distinguish between coronaviruses, influenza, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses and all the other causes of the sniffles that carried off the vulnerable every winter. Tens of thousands die of respiratory infections in this country every year.
I've spent over a decade in healthcare, and I can tell you that we never had the types of hospitalizations and deaths from "sniffles" that we've seen in the last 18 months. You are totally full of shit.

Florida just keeps looking better and better everytime HappyDaze posts.

First no culture war and also health care that does not get overwhelmed by the yearly winter corona virus surge.

So lucky
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

HappyDaze

Quote from: Shasarak on October 05, 2021, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.

Coronaviruses have been around since we split off from monkeys. Before 2020, no one bothered using crap tests that don't even work to distinguish between coronaviruses, influenza, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses and all the other causes of the sniffles that carried off the vulnerable every winter. Tens of thousands die of respiratory infections in this country every year.
I've spent over a decade in healthcare, and I can tell you that we never had the types of hospitalizations and deaths from "sniffles" that we've seen in the last 18 months. You are totally full of shit.

Florida just keeps looking better and better everytime HappyDaze posts.

First no culture war and also health care that does not get overwhelmed by the yearly winter corona virus surge.

So lucky
You're welcome to come visit anytime. If you like it, stay.

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on October 05, 2021, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.

Coronaviruses have been around since we split off from monkeys. Before 2020, no one bothered using crap tests that don't even work to distinguish between coronaviruses, influenza, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses and all the other causes of the sniffles that carried off the vulnerable every winter. Tens of thousands die of respiratory infections in this country every year.
I've spent over a decade in healthcare, and I can tell you that we never had the types of hospitalizations and deaths from "sniffles" that we've seen in the last 18 months. You are totally full of shit.

Florida just keeps looking better and better everytime HappyDaze posts.

First no culture war and also health care that does not get overwhelmed by the yearly winter corona virus surge.

So lucky
You're welcome to come visit anytime. If you like it, stay.

Save an alligator for me!

I am going to call mine Bitey
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

HappyDaze

Quote from: Shasarak on October 05, 2021, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on October 05, 2021, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.

Coronaviruses have been around since we split off from monkeys. Before 2020, no one bothered using crap tests that don't even work to distinguish between coronaviruses, influenza, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses and all the other causes of the sniffles that carried off the vulnerable every winter. Tens of thousands die of respiratory infections in this country every year.
I've spent over a decade in healthcare, and I can tell you that we never had the types of hospitalizations and deaths from "sniffles" that we've seen in the last 18 months. You are totally full of shit.

Florida just keeps looking better and better everytime HappyDaze posts.

First no culture war and also health care that does not get overwhelmed by the yearly winter corona virus surge.

So lucky
You're welcome to come visit anytime. If you like it, stay.

Save an alligator for me!

I am going to call mine Bitey
You sure you wouldn't rather have a boar?

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 04:40:26 PM
You sure you wouldn't rather have a boar?

I think Bitey would eat it.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

moonsweeper

Quote from: Shasarak on October 05, 2021, 04:38:54 PM

Save an alligator for me!

I am going to call mine Bitey

Everyone knows gators are supposed to be named Rippy...

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HappyDaze

Quote from: Shasarak on October 05, 2021, 06:12:19 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 04:40:26 PM
You sure you wouldn't rather have a boar?

I think Bitey would eat it.
Ok, you buy a big ass trashcan and I'll point you toward the glades.

Prairie Dragon

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 12:58:34 PM
You're still dodging. Show me evidence of Covid-19 infections and deaths prior to 2019. If Covid-19 is an endemic infection as you suggest rather than something novel/new, surely you can find some evidence that it has been inecting (and killing) people for a long time.

Coronaviruses have been around since we split off from monkeys. Before 2020, no one bothered using crap tests that don't even work to distinguish between coronaviruses, influenza, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses and all the other causes of the sniffles that carried off the vulnerable every winter. Tens of thousands die of respiratory infections in this country every year.
I've spent over a decade in healthcare, and I can tell you that we never had the types of hospitalizations and deaths from "sniffles" that we've seen in the last 18 months. You are totally full of shit.

I've been given a chance to get the Booster.  I am still trying to make the decision.  It's only been 8 months since I had the Pfizer series.  My healthcare provider doesn't think I need it because my bloodwork indicates my immune system is great...

Kiero

Quote from: Prairie Dragon on October 06, 2021, 12:51:43 AM
I've been given a chance to get the Booster.  I am still trying to make the decision.  It's only been 8 months since I had the Pfizer series.  My healthcare provider doesn't think I need it because my bloodwork indicates my immune system is great...

It might have been before you got jabbed.
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Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Kiero

#689
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 05, 2021, 02:41:34 PM
I've spent over a decade in healthcare, and I can tell you that we never had the types of hospitalizations and deaths from "sniffles" that we've seen in the last 18 months. You are totally full of shit.

Funny, because our healthcare system is "overwhelmed" by winter respiratory viruses every single year.

Course we didn't have a reckless policy of trying to jab our way out of it in any previous years. Or 18 months of deliberately suppressing people's immune systems by keeping them away from other people. Along with encouraging them to spend more time stuck indoors sitting on their arses.
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.