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Gendered behavior, bullying, and feminism

Started by jhkim, September 25, 2019, 03:48:30 PM

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ElBorak

Quote from: Pat;1117426Okay, that last again might have been slight hyperbole.
Nope not hyperbole, not at all. I think you could have put a few more in to tell the truth.:D

SHARK

Quote from: Pat;1117441Quite possibly, but I'll leave that discussion to you. deadDMwalking poisoned the waters by making false claims about me, and leaching out all the toxins would be far too much work given how little I care about this tangent, so I've just bothered myself with hammering in the metaphorical equivalent of signs saying "poison!".

Greetings!

*Laughing* Ah, Pat. Thank you, but I'll pass on that. Watching you joust with deadDMwalking has persuaded me that such a discussion would be more than frustrating. I'm always amazed at how some people simply seem to be illiterate on the internet. It's like they only read what they want, and entirely ignore everything else that someone says to them.

I'm always alternatingly amused and boggled by straw men arguments that people like to try and have with a person, but often it's more like they are having this weird kind of argument in their own head, fighting against an argument *they wanted you to really make* instead of the argument you actually did make. It's like, damn, dude, read what the person actually said! *Laughs*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Pat

Quote from: SHARK;1117455I'm always alternatingly amused and boggled by straw men arguments that people like to try and have with a person, but often it's more like they are having this weird kind of argument in their own head, fighting against an argument *they wanted you to really make* instead of the argument you actually did make. It's like, damn, dude, read what the person actually said! *Laughs*
I generally try to give people the benefit of the doubt, because all conversations require a certain degree of realignment. Bandwidth is finite and responses are discrete, so we have to make assumptions to bridge the gray areas, and the lens of our preconceptions can subtly or dramatically shade how we interpret different things. So a dialog is never just point then counterpoint ad infinitum; there's always a certain amount of backtracking as we clarify and reframe past statements.

But if those course corrections aren't accepted or a least glossed over, any further discussion is literally impossible. The conversation becomes a perpetual loop, continually being reset to the same point. It's also a really weird experience, because it involves a complete stranger insisting they know what I think and and believe better than I do.

ElBorak

Quote from: SHARK;1117455It's like, damn, dude, read what the person actually said! *Laughs*

Not reading or understanding what someone actually said is standard procedure for anyone disagreeing with people over 55.:cool: