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« Reply #195 on: September 25, 2019, 07:06:31 pm »
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I empathize, but are you seriously reccomending killing SJWs? Because that's where the idea leads. They escalate, we escalate. Last one standing wins.


If you look at the history of nations before the outbreaks of civil wars, you see the escalation of verbal demonization, control of media narratives to label the out-group as enemies of the people and protests/social gatherings start turning violent.

AKA, the USA in 2019.

America (as a concept) is truly exceptional, but Americans as people are just like the rest of the assholes on the planet. And technology and education do not inoculate humans as evidenced by numerous civil wars (or civil uprisings or ethnic cleansing) in the past century.

While I am not calling for the murder of SJWs, I expect the culture war to go hot in the USA. 250 years is a historical norm for nation to last, so there's no reason to believe the USA is ensured or guaranteed a peaceful and united future.

You are right that escalation ends in civil war.

However, if those opposing SJWs do not swiftly escalate, they will lose the culture war. The "hope" is that escalation against SJWs would break their stranglehold on the culture by exposing their hypocrisy on a large scale while making individual SJWs fear the same "cancel culture" they have inflicted on everyone else.


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Use their wokeness against them, make them eat each other, make them Reeeeeeeeeee over stupid shit. The first dwindles their number and distracts their energy inwards, the second helps make people realize just how fucking crazy and evil they are.

Or in short, make them live under their own rules.


Yes, but taken to the next step where the retaliation is supercharged.

In the case of Quinn, escalation would demanding her firing from DC and scrapping of her book. When DC doesn't quickly comply, the escalation would be hunting through the lives of DC executives and employees for any whiff of wrongthink and then blowing that up large, demanding even more firings. Also if DC fires Quinn or anyone, the escalation would be hunt through their staff anyway and burn them down anyway for having hired Quinn in the first place. Even obedience does not grant mercy.

In regards to SNL, the escalation would be demand NBC to replace Lorne Michaels because previous SNL skits have wrongthink and then hammer NBC for its historical lack of wokeness, demanding firings of all key people.

It would need to get nasty and would require a dedicated social media team with a budget. The level of relentless attack necessary requires a full time staff with resources to rally supporters as targeted weapons.

It would actually be a really fun job!

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« Reply #196 on: September 25, 2019, 11:04:44 pm »
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Why would anybody say the poundmetoo movement ruins innocent lives?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAKKzxZkGJE


So here is the article about this from The Sun, with the headline 'HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND' Five-year-old autistic boy 'registered as sex offender' for hugging one classmate and kissing another on the cheek

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10001058/five-year-autistic-boy-sex-offender-hugging-classmate-kissing/

I note that the *only* evidence they have that the boy was registered as a sex offender is a Facebook post from his grandmother (!). Meanwhile, not mentioned in the article is the response from Hamilton County Schools:

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Hamilton County Schools is committed to the safety and well-being of all students. Our school leaders work to serve our families and meet the needs of our diverse learners. This family's characterization of the incident with their child at East Ridge Elementary does not capture the full context of the concerns expressed to them by the school. It was not a hug or kiss that prompted the school to contact the family. Also, at no time did the school administration punish the child or treat the incident as a discipline issue. Moreover, no one at the school sought to label the child as "a sexual predator."

Source: https://www.hcde.org/newsroom/statement_regarding_student_at_east_ridge_elem

So, according to the schools, not only was the child not registered as a sex offender as The Sun claimed, he wasn't punished *at all*.

Jesus. Half of the idiotic 11-minute video is the poster going on about how unbelievable the story is, and yet he doesn't even bother to search for any more information or question the possibility that it might not be true. Maybe The Sun is correct, and the boy was registered as a sex offender, but to believe that, I'd want to see some evidence beyond what The Sun presented.

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« Reply #197 on: September 26, 2019, 12:03:43 am »
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If you look at the history of nations before the outbreaks of civil wars, you see the escalation of verbal demonization, control of media narratives to label the out-group as enemies of the people and protests/social gatherings start turning violent.

AKA, the USA in 2019.

America (as a concept) is truly exceptional, but Americans as people are just like the rest of the assholes on the planet. And technology and education do not inoculate humans as evidenced by numerous civil wars (or civil uprisings or ethnic cleansing) in the past century.

While I am not calling for the murder of SJWs, I expect the culture war to go hot in the USA. 250 years is a historical norm for nation to last, so there's no reason to believe the USA is ensured or guaranteed a peaceful and united future.

You are right that escalation ends in civil war.

However, if those opposing SJWs do not swiftly escalate, they will lose the culture war. The "hope" is that escalation against SJWs would break their stranglehold on the culture by exposing their hypocrisy on a large scale while making individual SJWs fear the same "cancel culture" they have inflicted on everyone else.

My concern is that the new boss will be the same as the old boss. I think it's naive to think that the "other side" will put down their weapons when the "war" is "won". I find it far more likely that they'll use their position to enforce their own version of cancel culture. We've seen it before. My fear is that it's inevitable.
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« Reply #198 on: September 26, 2019, 06:46:54 pm »
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My concern is that the new boss will be the same as the old boss. I think it's naive to think that the "other side" will put down their weapons when the "war" is "won". I find it far more likely that they'll use their position to enforce their own version of cancel culture. We've seen it before. My fear is that it's inevitable.


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Well, thanks to the rhetoric of Beto about "Hell yes we're coming to confiscate your AR's!", the continued nonsense by Pelosi, Bloomberg, and other assorted Liberal fucking tyrants, and the spread of Liberal SJW hate groups like ANTIFA, I went out just the other night and bought a BCM-AR15, chambered for 5.56mm Nato, and had them add a Talon Eagle 1x8 Scope, a red-dot sight, ambi-sling, adjustable sniper stock, and other goodies. Also got a 60-round drum magazine--yeah, the magazine that Liberal SJW's cry about as being "so evil!", a bunch of 30-round magazines, and a good supply of ammunition! I'm going to have lots of fun with my new "evil assault rifle" at my local gun range. In addition, I'm prepared for whatever comes. The fucking Communists can bring it if they want to. I don't give a fuck. I'm ready, whatever may happen.

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« Reply #199 on: September 26, 2019, 07:40:16 pm »
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My concern is that the new boss will be the same as the old boss. I think it's naive to think that the "other side" will put down their weapons when the "war" is "won". I find it far more likely that they'll use their position to enforce their own version of cancel culture. We've seen it before. My fear is that it's inevitable.


It's quite possible the "new boss = old boss" is inevitable. Human nature is 99% crapass. The aftermath of the last US Civil War wasn't bunnies and kittens for either the North or the South. I have zero illusions about the next civil war bringing forth some wondrous 'Merica Fuck Yeah! utopia.

And living through any civil uprising is a shitstorm. Let's have no illusions about that either.

However, traditional Western culture is being systematically dismantled. It's #1 on the cancel culture hit parade. We are losing the USA of our forefathers AND we are losing the post-civil rights era universal American Dream to authoritarian identity politics, globalism and rising communism. Even Obama would never have campaigned on the craziness we're hearing from every Democrat in 2020.

The USA is swiftly becoming 1 Country, 2 Cultures...and that won't survive. One culture is going to win the culture war and drive the other into obscurity OR the cultures will segregate into 2 countries.

As it stands, SJW doubleplusgoothink has control of academia, the media and social media which puts them in a vastly superior position in the culture war. Unless steps are taken to vastly increase counter-assaults against them, our culture and our cultural values don't have a future.

I'm okay with being the last dinosaur because I don't have kids who would be forced to live in the SJW's dystopia.


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I went out just the other night and bought a BCM-AR15, chambered for 5.56mm Nato, and had them add a Talon Eagle 1x8 Scope, a red-dot sight, ambi-sling, adjustable sniper stock, and other goodies.


I also went out just the other night, but I got tacos instead. :)

I totally understand your response to Beto/Pelosi, but gotta wonder if the DNC owns stock in gun & ammo companies because you know gun shop owners do the hamster happy dance every time the Democrats talk about gun control. It's like a Black Friday sales rush, but a dozen times every year.

The Conservative Twins (ex-Marines, now comedians) did a video about a DNC representative claiming AR-15s fire .50 caliber bullets.


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« Reply #200 on: September 26, 2019, 08:08:10 pm »
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Greetings!

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Well, thanks to the rhetoric of Beto about "Hell yes we're coming to confiscate your AR's!", the continued nonsense by Pelosi, Bloomberg, and other assorted Liberal fucking tyrants, and the spread of Liberal SJW hate groups like ANTIFA, I went out just the other night and bought a BCM-AR15, chambered for 5.56mm Nato, and had them add a Talon Eagle 1x8 Scope, a red-dot sight, ambi-sling, adjustable sniper stock, and other goodies. Also got a 60-round drum magazine--yeah, the magazine that Liberal SJW's cry about as being "so evil!", a bunch of 30-round magazines, and a good supply of ammunition! I'm going to have lots of fun with my new "evil assault rifle" at my local gun range. In addition, I'm prepared for whatever comes. The fucking Communists can bring it if they want to. I don't give a fuck. I'm ready, whatever may happen.

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« Reply #201 on: September 26, 2019, 10:13:08 pm »
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The Conservative Twins (ex-Marines, now comedians) did a video about a DNC representative claiming AR-15s fire .50 caliber bullets.



Wait, wait, wait. Someone really said that? Fuck even a Mexican with no way to get his hands on one of those legally knows AR-15's fire IBMS!
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« Reply #202 on: September 26, 2019, 10:46:18 pm »
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Greetings!

Damn straight, brother! Make sure you are stocked up good before the Liberals make new unconstitutional laws that make it illegal for you to own anything beyond a BB-gun! It amazes me how Liberal traitors everywhere entirely ignore our Constitution, as well as recent Supreme Court pronouncements concerning the 2nd Amendment, and blithely go about trampling people's rights, and making laws that seek to make our population a population of helpless, defenseless sheep!

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« Reply #203 on: September 27, 2019, 04:04:51 am »
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Greetings!

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Well, thanks to the rhetoric of Beto about "Hell yes we're coming to confiscate your AR's!", the continued nonsense by Pelosi, Bloomberg, and other assorted Liberal fucking tyrants, and the spread of Liberal SJW hate groups like ANTIFA, I went out just the other night and bought a BCM-AR15, chambered for 5.56mm Nato, and had them add a Talon Eagle 1x8 Scope, a red-dot sight, ambi-sling, adjustable sniper stock, and other goodies. Also got a 60-round drum magazine--yeah, the magazine that Liberal SJW's cry about as being "so evil!", a bunch of 30-round magazines, and a good supply of ammunition! I'm going to have lots of fun with my new "evil assault rifle" at my local gun range. In addition, I'm prepared for whatever comes. The fucking Communists can bring it if they want to. I don't give a fuck. I'm ready, whatever may happen.

Semper Fidelis,

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Nice, I just purchased an M1A....
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« Reply #204 on: September 27, 2019, 10:01:41 am »
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Wait, wait, wait. Someone really said that? Fuck even a Mexican with no way to get his hands on one of those legally knows AR-15's fire IBMS!

You just gotta be friends with the right people...

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« Reply #205 on: September 27, 2019, 07:07:18 pm »
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You just gotta be friends with the right people...

And pay through the nose for a gun that might be hot. Yeah, no, better to keep on trying to convince my paisanos we need to move to something like the USA has.
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« Reply #206 on: September 28, 2019, 12:25:06 am »
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Wait, wait, wait. Someone really said that? Fuck even a Mexican with no way to get his hands on one of those legally knows AR-15's fire IBMS!


Not just "someone". She has been a US Representative since 1995 and she has degrees from prestigious universities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson_Lee

And you're right, AR-15s neither fire Intercontinental Bowel Movement Systems nor ICBMs :)

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« Reply #207 on: September 28, 2019, 01:57:32 pm »
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Nice, I just purchased an M1A....

Bastard! I've wanted one for ages since I shot a friend's out in Ellensburg. All I have now is my glock 23 (tritium sights, ghost trigger assembly) and my remington 700T w/bipod left. Had to sell off my frankensteined 5.56 chambered AR and the expensive shit I slapped on it as well as my sig P245 carry years ago for moving money. It's probably for the best as there are no good ranges within immediate distance (and none at all that go beyond ~100 yards so it's a waste) plus I get exuberant with 'spending' ammunition at the range... I'm always tempted at our gun shows, those guys really know how to show off wares. :D I would much rather get an M1A than an AR next, it's just... the price...
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« Reply #208 on: September 28, 2019, 03:37:24 pm »
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Not just "someone". She has been a US Representative since 1995 and she has degrees from prestigious universities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson_Lee

And you're right, AR-15s neither fire Intercontinental Bowel Movement Systems nor ICBMs :)


Dude, you need to learn your acronyms: Intersectional Bowel Movement Stupidity :D
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« Reply #209 on: September 29, 2019, 12:13:32 pm »
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I'll try to clarify my point by breaking it down.

1) Tait's suggestion is to apply blacklisting to those who do blacklists. I'm going to call this strategy "counter-blacklisting".

2) An important point is to ask what the result of the counter-blacklisting will be in the future. Will people really learn their lesson?

3) To inform on point #2, we can look at the past. Have there been times in the past when people been blacklisted, and they turned around and tried to blacklist those opposed to them?

4) An example of #3 in the past is LGBT people and allies. LGBT people were often blacklisted particularly in the 1980s and earlier (as well as later to a fair degree). There was a segment among who thought "We should blacklist those who are trying to blacklist us."  This is the counter-blacklist strategy.

5) I believe the result of this counter-blacklist strategy is more blacklisting in general, not people reflecting that blacklisting was a bad idea.

Does that clarify?


There's research in game theory and conflict that suggest you are mistaken, that tit-for-tat is an effective strategy and response.  In the current big example, Aaron Calvin (a reporter) was doing a piece on Carson King, a guy who was making news by raising money for a children's hospital.  Calvin dug up 8 year old Tweets from when King was 16.  The Tweets were racist, but had nothing to do with the current situation.  King suffered some fallout.  Meanwhile, someone digs into Calvin's background, and in a turn of events shocking precisely no one, turns up racist Tweets.

Calvin gets fired, the paper maintains the original story should have gone forward as it did, Calvin maintains he's only being fired because of a right wing rage mob.

Both Calvin and the paper miss the point - there will be one standard for all of us, or there will be none at all.  What there will NOT be is them trying to gin up a rage mob and writing it off as actions have consequences, then claiming it's dirty pool when the same tactic is used on them.