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hgjs:

--- Quote from: Balbinus ---The Magic Deer is real.  I understand it is actually in genre, though since I have never read any romantic fantasy I can't swear to that.

But my understanding is that magic deer and the like are genre defining, not genre breaking.
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I was a fan of Tamora Pierce and the like when I was in middle school, but I don't recall much in the way of Magic Deer.  Then again, I don't recall said fantasy being utopian (as per the "What is Romantic Fantasy?" section in the book) either -- usually the plucky young heroes and heroines start off struggling against the expectations of a society that doesn't accept them for who they are.

The Yann Waters:
"'The targets for assassination are chosen by the wisdom of the crystal unicorns,' Yasha says. 'And it is the Dryadine, the great blooming benevolent trees, so vulnerable, so wise, that choose the unworthy for the gulags. Even your own father, Viktor, who hurt you so. You must believe in them, Viktor. They are the hand of Light.'"

Rebecca Borgstrom, "Soviet Romantic Fantasy"

jhkim:

--- Quote from: hgjs ---Yes, it exists.  It's called the Golden Hart.  And the rant was no exaggeration -- well, perhaps in calling the people of Aldis "slaves of the deer."  After all, even though the kingdom's ruler is chosen by the Golden Hart, and every member of the nobility is indirectly chosen by the Golden Hart (through the Blue Rose Scepter), the people live a rather good life.
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Look, this is highly deceptive in the least.  The Golden Hart is the divine or semi-divine force which chooses the sovereign in Aldis.  Its direct intervention is generally limited to choosing and crowning the new ruler.  It has rarely appeared at other times.  It aided the original rebellion which formed Aldis by conferring immunity to sorcery to all those within sight of it.  It has also appeared twice in 300 years since to depose a ruler.  It does nothing to enforce the sovereign's rule, however.  

The Blue Rose Scepter is simply an artifact that detects alignment -- it can tell once in the lifetime of a person whether they are of Light alignment at that time.  

Make of it what you will.  

Personally, I don't see how this is any more intrusive than a good-aligned god in D&D, say.  The god is actually far more active, because he is constantly checking all his people and if they turn alignment away from his, he strips them of their powers.

RPGPundit:

--- Quote from: hgjs ---I was a fan of Tamora Pierce and the like when I was in middle school, but I don't recall much in the way of Magic Deer.  Then again, I don't recall said fantasy being utopian (as per the "What is Romantic Fantasy?" section in the book) either -- usually the plucky young heroes and heroines start off struggling against the expectations of a society that doesn't accept them for who they are.
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Yup, therein's the irony. Most Romantic Fantasy does NOT suppose a utopian setting, but rather often quite the opposite. The heros or heroinnes of the setting have to struggle against a society that discriminates against them.

Instead, we get Steve Kenson's Nannystate-Liberal Wiccan Wankfest.

RPGPundit

Balbinus:

--- Quote from: Balbinus ---The Magic Deer is real.  I understand it is actually in genre, though since I have never read any romantic fantasy I can't swear to that.

But my understanding is that magic deer and the like are genre defining, not genre breaking.
--- End quote ---


Sorry to quote myself, but from follow up posts I understand I was wrong and it has bugger all to do with the genre.

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