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France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"

Started by Wntrlnd, October 02, 2021, 02:27:34 PM

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SHARK

Greetings!

Of course, *skin colour* matters. Just like everything else that goes into particular cultural and tribal identities.

You have people over in the Middle East and Europe that can identify people by the shape of their eyes, their nose, or their ears--and we cry about skin colour?

In Asia, Chinese or Japanese set themselves apart from the "Jungle Asians" as I have heard them self-reference themselves. They not only look at skin colour, but also the shape of the eye, the nose, the ears, forehead, whatever.

So, yeah. In-Group and Out-Groups. Anthropology 101. Members of the In-Group are good and better than members of the Out Group. Skin colour is merely a more obvious sign of difference. But humans come up with or notice a dozen other details that mark whoever as being from the Out Group. Historically, the majority have always preferred members of the In Group.

That's just the way things are.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

jhkim

Quote from: AtomicPope on March 24, 2022, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: jhkim on March 24, 2022, 05:11:28 PM
But to get back to the main point - are immigrants to France like Éric Zemmour can ever really be French. Or as Pundit put it, does skin color matter? And are mono-ethnic societies broadly better?

I have a bunch of extended family who live in Korea, which is a largely mono-ethnic society as Japan largely is. So I have a pretty good idea about what life is like there. In the bigger picture, no, I don't feel like life is better there than in the U.S. They have some things better, and some things worse.

To everyone who asks that question I will believe them when they heckle every single non-White organization until they close their doors forever because no one asks that question without making a statement.

Sorry, I misquoted RPGPundit there. It was GeekyBugle who paraphrased Pundit saying "The skin color doesn't matter, the culture does" - while Pundit said "Ethnic replacement is meaningless. The danger is Civilizational Replacement."

I phrased it as a question, and you're right that I gave an implicit stance there that I agree with them. But you can have your opinion on the issue and phrase it differently, and I hope it didn't come across as a personal attack.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: SHARK on March 24, 2022, 07:56:06 PM
Greetings!

Of course, *skin colour* matters. Just like everything else that goes into particular cultural and tribal identities.

You have people over in the Middle East and Europe that can identify people by the shape of their eyes, their nose, or their ears--and we cry about skin colour?

In Asia, Chinese or Japanese set themselves apart from the "Jungle Asians" as I have heard them self-reference themselves. They not only look at skin colour, but also the shape of the eye, the nose, the ears, forehead, whatever.

So, yeah. In-Group and Out-Groups. Anthropology 101. Members of the In-Group are good and better than members of the Out Group. Skin colour is merely a more obvious sign of difference. But humans come up with or notice a dozen other details that mark whoever as being from the Out Group. Historically, the majority have always preferred members of the In Group.

That's just the way things are.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Tell me hermano, would you exchange all the white libtards for non woke non socialist brown mexicans willing to embrace the USA and it's founding principles? WHY?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

SHARK

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 24, 2022, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 24, 2022, 07:56:06 PM
Greetings!

Of course, *skin colour* matters. Just like everything else that goes into particular cultural and tribal identities.

You have people over in the Middle East and Europe that can identify people by the shape of their eyes, their nose, or their ears--and we cry about skin colour?

In Asia, Chinese or Japanese set themselves apart from the "Jungle Asians" as I have heard them self-reference themselves. They not only look at skin colour, but also the shape of the eye, the nose, the ears, forehead, whatever.

So, yeah. In-Group and Out-Groups. Anthropology 101. Members of the In-Group are good and better than members of the Out Group. Skin colour is merely a more obvious sign of difference. But humans come up with or notice a dozen other details that mark whoever as being from the Out Group. Historically, the majority have always preferred members of the In Group.

That's just the way things are.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Tell me hermano, would you exchange all the white libtards for non woke non socialist brown mexicans willing to embrace the USA and it's founding principles? WHY?

Greetings!

IN A BLINK OF AN EYE!--and cheerfully so, my brother!

WHY? Well, while skin colour and ethnicity are obvious and even important details and aspects--of deeper importance and meaning is shared culture; shared religion; holding closely-aligned morals, ethics, values, and principles. Such is the foundation of love, brotherhood, and friendship which reaches beyond outward appearances, or even the details and dynamics of being raised originally in a somewhat different ethnic community or culture.

The soul, spirit, and character of an individual can transcend the perceived "Foreign" or "Out-Group" differences of race and ethnicity.

When I was in the Marine Corps, many of my closest friends were Mexican. A few were Puerto Rican, and Cuban. We were sympatico, and brothers. I-and they--would take a bullet for one another. Similarly, a Mexican girlfriend's father, and family--brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts and uncles--all genuinely embraced me, and pointedly welcomed me into their homes, and into their lives. I was embraced as one of them, and like a son or brother. (Even though my Spanish was broken and full of Gringo; *Laughing*). They cheerfully translated Spanish for me from family conversations, favourite expressions, or the commentary going on in a *Fusbol* game on TV, or while we watched a Telenovella. One and all, they came to *Know Me*. They knew I was traditional-minded; conservative; hard-working; honest; sincere, honourable, and trustworthy. The fact that I was raised as a Catholic, and a veteran of the Marine Corps was icing on the cake, so to speak.

All of this, and more, sharing their lives, their friendship, love and acceptance--embracing people of like mind and kindred spirits.

I would live with such like-minded Mexicans in a heartbeat, by preference. Even some of the cultural nuances that are different from present-day, corrupted, feminized and debauched white Anglo culture in America are things that I appreciate and respect. I enjoy the clothing styles and preferences; the music; the food especially. *Laughing*

All of that, and more, is why I would embrace living amongst like-minded Mexicans instead of Liberal, white morons. Without hesitation, Hermano!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

oggsmash

  Pundit says that while living in a country that is not very diverse, being 88 percent white. 

GeekyBugle

Quote from: SHARK on March 25, 2022, 01:53:50 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 24, 2022, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 24, 2022, 07:56:06 PM
Greetings!

Of course, *skin colour* matters. Just like everything else that goes into particular cultural and tribal identities.

You have people over in the Middle East and Europe that can identify people by the shape of their eyes, their nose, or their ears--and we cry about skin colour?

In Asia, Chinese or Japanese set themselves apart from the "Jungle Asians" as I have heard them self-reference themselves. They not only look at skin colour, but also the shape of the eye, the nose, the ears, forehead, whatever.

So, yeah. In-Group and Out-Groups. Anthropology 101. Members of the In-Group are good and better than members of the Out Group. Skin colour is merely a more obvious sign of difference. But humans come up with or notice a dozen other details that mark whoever as being from the Out Group. Historically, the majority have always preferred members of the In Group.

That's just the way things are.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Tell me hermano, would you exchange all the white libtards for non woke non socialist brown mexicans willing to embrace the USA and it's founding principles? WHY?

Greetings!

IN A BLINK OF AN EYE!--and cheerfully so, my brother!

WHY? Well, while skin colour and ethnicity are obvious and even important details and aspects--of deeper importance and meaning is shared culture; shared religion; holding closely-aligned morals, ethics, values, and principles. Such is the foundation of love, brotherhood, and friendship which reaches beyond outward appearances, or even the details and dynamics of being raised originally in a somewhat different ethnic community or culture.

The soul, spirit, and character of an individual can transcend the perceived "Foreign" or "Out-Group" differences of race and ethnicity.

When I was in the Marine Corps, many of my closest friends were Mexican. A few were Puerto Rican, and Cuban. We were sympatico, and brothers. I-and they--would take a bullet for one another. Similarly, a Mexican girlfriend's father, and family--brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts and uncles--all genuinely embraced me, and pointedly welcomed me into their homes, and into their lives. I was embraced as one of them, and like a son or brother. (Even though my Spanish was broken and full of Gringo; *Laughing*). They cheerfully translated Spanish for me from family conversations, favourite expressions, or the commentary going on in a *Fusbol* game on TV, or while we watched a Telenovella. One and all, they came to *Know Me*. They knew I was traditional-minded; conservative; hard-working; honest; sincere, honourable, and trustworthy. The fact that I was raised as a Catholic, and a veteran of the Marine Corps was icing on the cake, so to speak.

All of this, and more, sharing their lives, their friendship, love and acceptance--embracing people of like mind and kindred spirits.

I would live with such like-minded Mexicans in a heartbeat, by preference. Even some of the cultural nuances that are different from present-day, corrupted, feminized and debauched white Anglo culture in America are things that I appreciate and respect. I enjoy the clothing styles and preferences; the music; the food especially. *Laughing*

All of that, and more, is why I would embrace living amongst like-minded Mexicans instead of Liberal, white morons. Without hesitation, Hermano!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

So, unless we're talking primitive minds or out and out racists, in the scale of things we consider to define who is in our tribe skin color matters way less than shared values.

Only person in my 55 years I heard talking down to a mexican "indian" with openly racist language was a black cuban woman. And yet, I would happyly exchange all the mexican commies for all the freedom loving cubans, reserving the right to kick out the racist ones, those can go live in Canada or some other woke shithole.

Sadly we've allowed them too much leeway and now we're deeply divided with racial hatred, how stupid to allow them to pit us against each other while they rob us blind, steal our God given rights and sell our descendants future to China.

And I'm still for closing our southern border, kicking out all the invaders and for the USA doing the same.

And for the USA to Drone the fucking Cartels.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

RPGPundit

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 24, 2022, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 24, 2022, 07:56:06 PM
Greetings!

Of course, *skin colour* matters. Just like everything else that goes into particular cultural and tribal identities.

You have people over in the Middle East and Europe that can identify people by the shape of their eyes, their nose, or their ears--and we cry about skin colour?

In Asia, Chinese or Japanese set themselves apart from the "Jungle Asians" as I have heard them self-reference themselves. They not only look at skin colour, but also the shape of the eye, the nose, the ears, forehead, whatever.

So, yeah. In-Group and Out-Groups. Anthropology 101. Members of the In-Group are good and better than members of the Out Group. Skin colour is merely a more obvious sign of difference. But humans come up with or notice a dozen other details that mark whoever as being from the Out Group. Historically, the majority have always preferred members of the In Group.

That's just the way things are.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Tell me hermano, would you exchange all the white libtards for non woke non socialist brown mexicans willing to embrace the USA and it's founding principles? WHY?

Given how many Latino's are now going GOP, that's a very relevant question.

I know my answer: if you could ship every last woke white leftist out of the United States, and replace them with an equal number (or more likely, a greater number, because there's way more of them) of anti-communist Latinos, you'd have a much better nation.
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Quote from: oggsmash on March 25, 2022, 01:55:28 AM
  Pundit says that while living in a country that is not very diverse, being 88 percent white.

Uruguay is not as diverse as, say, Canada or the USA. But it is still an immigrant society; its largest difference from other Latin American countries is that it has no pureblooded natives, though in the countryside there's a lot of people with native descent. But it also has a large mix of Spaniards, Basques, Italians, French, various types of Slavs, Syrians, Armenians, Jews, Germans, Swiss, English/Irish/Scottish descendants, a growing population of Asians (mainly Korean and Chinese, some Japanese too), and a significant population (mainly in the capital) of black Latinos descended from former (escaped) Brazilian slaves. While there was relatively little cultural immigration in the latter half of the 20th century, in the last 15 years or so it has now seen a large influx of Cubans and Venezuelans escaping from the socialist hellholes their homelands became.

The coherence of the country is not because of ethnic purity nor is it somehow because of diversity, but rather because of Uruguayan republican values. Uruguay as a nation is not affected by the same elite self-loathing that you see in North America, and the people here have no trouble incorporating the various cultural traits because everyone who lives here believes in the fundamental principles of a democratic, secular and republican state.

The disruptive effect here is nothing to do with ethnic strife; inasmuch as it exists, it is the fault of old-school Marxist class warfare.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on March 25, 2022, 03:15:05 AM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 25, 2022, 01:55:28 AM
  Pundit says that while living in a country that is not very diverse, being 88 percent white.

Uruguay is not as diverse as, say, Canada or the USA. But it is still an immigrant society; its largest difference from other Latin American countries is that it has no pureblooded natives, though in the countryside there's a lot of people with native descent. But it also has a large mix of Spaniards, Basques, Italians, French, various types of Slavs, Syrians, Armenians, Jews, Germans, Swiss, English/Irish/Scottish descendants, a growing population of Asians (mainly Korean and Chinese, some Japanese too), and a significant population (mainly in the capital) of black Latinos descended from former (escaped) Brazilian slaves. While there was relatively little cultural immigration in the latter half of the 20th century, in the last 15 years or so it has now seen a large influx of Cubans and Venezuelans escaping from the socialist hellholes their homelands became.

The coherence of the country is not because of ethnic purity nor is it somehow because of diversity, but rather because of Uruguayan republican values. Uruguay as a nation is not affected by the same elite self-loathing that you see in North America, and the people here have no trouble incorporating the various cultural traits because everyone who lives here believes in the fundamental principles of a democratic, secular and republican state.

The disruptive effect here is nothing to do with ethnic strife; inasmuch as it exists, it is the fault of old-school Marxist class warfare.

   When you start taking on the levels of immigration the USA does, especially of the illegal kind, get back to me on how that coherence works out.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 25, 2022, 03:15:05 AM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 25, 2022, 01:55:28 AM
  Pundit says that while living in a country that is not very diverse, being 88 percent white.

Uruguay is not as diverse as, say, Canada or the USA. But it is still an immigrant society; its largest difference from other Latin American countries is that it has no pureblooded natives, though in the countryside there's a lot of people with native descent. But it also has a large mix of Spaniards, Basques, Italians, French, various types of Slavs, Syrians, Armenians, Jews, Germans, Swiss, English/Irish/Scottish descendants, a growing population of Asians (mainly Korean and Chinese, some Japanese too), and a significant population (mainly in the capital) of black Latinos descended from former (escaped) Brazilian slaves. While there was relatively little cultural immigration in the latter half of the 20th century, in the last 15 years or so it has now seen a large influx of Cubans and Venezuelans escaping from the socialist hellholes their homelands became.

The coherence of the country is not because of ethnic purity nor is it somehow because of diversity, but rather because of Uruguayan republican values. Uruguay as a nation is not affected by the same elite self-loathing that you see in North America, and the people here have no trouble incorporating the various cultural traits because everyone who lives here believes in the fundamental principles of a democratic, secular and republican state.

The disruptive effect here is nothing to do with ethnic strife; inasmuch as it exists, it is the fault of old-school Marxist class warfare.

After 500 years of interbreeding? There's not a single one of those outside maybe the Amazonian Jungle.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Ghostmaker

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 24, 2022, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 24, 2022, 07:56:06 PM
Greetings!

Of course, *skin colour* matters. Just like everything else that goes into particular cultural and tribal identities.

You have people over in the Middle East and Europe that can identify people by the shape of their eyes, their nose, or their ears--and we cry about skin colour?

In Asia, Chinese or Japanese set themselves apart from the "Jungle Asians" as I have heard them self-reference themselves. They not only look at skin colour, but also the shape of the eye, the nose, the ears, forehead, whatever.

So, yeah. In-Group and Out-Groups. Anthropology 101. Members of the In-Group are good and better than members of the Out Group. Skin colour is merely a more obvious sign of difference. But humans come up with or notice a dozen other details that mark whoever as being from the Out Group. Historically, the majority have always preferred members of the In Group.

That's just the way things are.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Tell me hermano, would you exchange all the white libtards for non woke non socialist brown mexicans willing to embrace the USA and it's founding principles? WHY?
Do you always send slow pitches over the plate like that, Geeky? :D

(And for the record, I'm with SHARK on this one.)

Lynn

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 24, 2022, 08:45:37 PMTell me hermano, would you exchange all the white libtards for non woke non socialist brown mexicans willing to embrace the USA and it's founding principles? WHY?
There's every evidence that first generation  Latinos (let's expand it beyond just Mexicans) that fit that bill have contributed in positive ways to the US.

I have cousins by marriage that were (and are) exactly that and, as a result, the greatest number of people with college degrees in my family at the time (this is during the 1960s-70s) were Spanish speakers. They fled communism, dove into the 'melting pot' and became very successful, especially in the emerging tech industry. They tend to vote conservative. They are the very model of the sort of people that benefit the US.
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RPGPundit

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 25, 2022, 04:10:04 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on March 25, 2022, 03:15:05 AM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 25, 2022, 01:55:28 AM
  Pundit says that while living in a country that is not very diverse, being 88 percent white.

Uruguay is not as diverse as, say, Canada or the USA. But it is still an immigrant society; its largest difference from other Latin American countries is that it has no pureblooded natives, though in the countryside there's a lot of people with native descent. But it also has a large mix of Spaniards, Basques, Italians, French, various types of Slavs, Syrians, Armenians, Jews, Germans, Swiss, English/Irish/Scottish descendants, a growing population of Asians (mainly Korean and Chinese, some Japanese too), and a significant population (mainly in the capital) of black Latinos descended from former (escaped) Brazilian slaves. While there was relatively little cultural immigration in the latter half of the 20th century, in the last 15 years or so it has now seen a large influx of Cubans and Venezuelans escaping from the socialist hellholes their homelands became.

The coherence of the country is not because of ethnic purity nor is it somehow because of diversity, but rather because of Uruguayan republican values. Uruguay as a nation is not affected by the same elite self-loathing that you see in North America, and the people here have no trouble incorporating the various cultural traits because everyone who lives here believes in the fundamental principles of a democratic, secular and republican state.

The disruptive effect here is nothing to do with ethnic strife; inasmuch as it exists, it is the fault of old-school Marxist class warfare.

After 500 years of interbreeding? There's not a single one of those outside maybe the Amazonian Jungle.

You know what I mean, dude. I mean people that would count as "indios", or even "mestizos".
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Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 25, 2022, 08:06:59 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 24, 2022, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: SHARK on March 24, 2022, 07:56:06 PM
Greetings!

Of course, *skin colour* matters. Just like everything else that goes into particular cultural and tribal identities.

You have people over in the Middle East and Europe that can identify people by the shape of their eyes, their nose, or their ears--and we cry about skin colour?

In Asia, Chinese or Japanese set themselves apart from the "Jungle Asians" as I have heard them self-reference themselves. They not only look at skin colour, but also the shape of the eye, the nose, the ears, forehead, whatever.

So, yeah. In-Group and Out-Groups. Anthropology 101. Members of the In-Group are good and better than members of the Out Group. Skin colour is merely a more obvious sign of difference. But humans come up with or notice a dozen other details that mark whoever as being from the Out Group. Historically, the majority have always preferred members of the In Group.

That's just the way things are.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Tell me hermano, would you exchange all the white libtards for non woke non socialist brown mexicans willing to embrace the USA and it's founding principles? WHY?
Do you always send slow pitches over the plate like that, Geeky? :D

(And for the record, I'm with SHARK on this one.)

Seeing as I knew the answer and wanted him to write it for a latter argument of mine I would say I throwed a curve ball with speed change. XD
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 25, 2022, 05:12:53 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 25, 2022, 04:10:04 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on March 25, 2022, 03:15:05 AM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 25, 2022, 01:55:28 AM
  Pundit says that while living in a country that is not very diverse, being 88 percent white.

Uruguay is not as diverse as, say, Canada or the USA. But it is still an immigrant society; its largest difference from other Latin American countries is that it has no pureblooded natives, though in the countryside there's a lot of people with native descent. But it also has a large mix of Spaniards, Basques, Italians, French, various types of Slavs, Syrians, Armenians, Jews, Germans, Swiss, English/Irish/Scottish descendants, a growing population of Asians (mainly Korean and Chinese, some Japanese too), and a significant population (mainly in the capital) of black Latinos descended from former (escaped) Brazilian slaves. While there was relatively little cultural immigration in the latter half of the 20th century, in the last 15 years or so it has now seen a large influx of Cubans and Venezuelans escaping from the socialist hellholes their homelands became.

The coherence of the country is not because of ethnic purity nor is it somehow because of diversity, but rather because of Uruguayan republican values. Uruguay as a nation is not affected by the same elite self-loathing that you see in North America, and the people here have no trouble incorporating the various cultural traits because everyone who lives here believes in the fundamental principles of a democratic, secular and republican state.

The disruptive effect here is nothing to do with ethnic strife; inasmuch as it exists, it is the fault of old-school Marxist class warfare.

After 500 years of interbreeding? There's not a single one of those outside maybe the Amazonian Jungle.

You know what I mean, dude. I mean people that would count as "indios", or even "mestizos".

Mestizos, by definition aren't pureblooded, as for who counts as Indio? It depends, for the census here (yes, we now care about your skin color because our government is anti-racist) it's based on self identification. So I could answer that I identify as Maya and be counted as such even if no one looking at me would guess I do descend from Mayas too.

Like I said, outside of MAYBE the amazonian Jungle, there's not a single "pureblooded" "native".
Also, how many centuries have my ancestors to have lived here before I too count as a native? Almost 600 years now and for some bizarre reason the CRT ppl  insist I'm not and you're falling into the trap of using their language/definitions.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell