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Author Topic: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"  (Read 8285 times)

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2021, 01:44:09 AM »
No Woking Areas
It's not really 'rejecting', but when the national public network manages to deliver this kind of satire, it's gotta sting at least a little for the wokies.  :o
And it helps that Woke sounds like the Elmer Fudd version of Rook (which in Dutch means 'Smoke').



I've never heard so many woke buzzwords together outside of TBP or similar environments.  ;D
I just would have changed 'Attacked' by 'Triggered' in the subtitles.
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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2021, 10:00:36 AM »
No Woking Areas
It's not really 'rejecting', but when the national public network manages to deliver this kind of satire, it's gotta sting at least a little for the wokies.  :o
And it helps that Woke sounds like the Elmer Fudd version of Rook (which in Dutch means 'Smoke').



I've never heard so many woke buzzwords together outside of TBP or similar environments.  ;D
I just would have changed 'Attacked' by 'Triggered' in the subtitles.
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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2021, 07:48:48 PM »
Didn't France import as many North African Muslims as they could, then have issues as the migrants refused to assimilate? Or am I mistaken?

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2021, 05:11:10 AM »
Didn't France import as many North African Muslims as they could, then have issues as the migrants refused to assimilate? Or am I mistaken?

After WW2 France had a need of manpower to rebuild their country and later to grow economically during the '60s.

Thats capitalism, not wokism.

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2021, 10:39:38 AM »
I was thinking more of just a few years ago, with mainstream media declaring "There is no rape problem, there are no No-Go Zones or grooming gangs."

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2021, 02:55:57 AM »
I was thinking more of just a few years ago, with mainstream media declaring "There is no rape problem, there are no No-Go Zones or grooming gangs."
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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2021, 05:56:24 AM »
From what I've read about Paris from French literature of XIX and early XX centuries immigrants does not seem to change much about this city.
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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2022, 06:28:22 AM »
Didn't France import as many North African Muslims as they could, then have issues as the migrants refused to assimilate? Or am I mistaken?

After WW2 France had a need of manpower to rebuild their country and later to grow economically during the '60s.

Thats capitalism, not wokism.

That's objectively false, and it's genocidal.

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2022, 01:41:42 PM »
Didn't France import as many North African Muslims as they could, then have issues as the migrants refused to assimilate? Or am I mistaken?

After WW2 France had a need of manpower to rebuild their country and later to grow economically during the '60s.

Thats capitalism, not wokism.

That's objectively false, and it's genocidal.

  I think what you said and he he said can both be true.  I do not think the biggest of capitalists/corporate interests have ANY interest at all in preserving any sort of native culture out of the nations they operate in.  In some cases, I think they might just be OK with trading our the current crop of citizens for others that they feel better suit their interests.  So I think what he says is true, and what you said is true.  Both things can certainly be true.

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2022, 01:43:07 AM »
Didn't France import as many North African Muslims as they could, then have issues as the migrants refused to assimilate? Or am I mistaken?

After WW2 France had a need of manpower to rebuild their country and later to grow economically during the '60s.

Thats capitalism, not wokism.

That's objectively false, and it's genocidal.

  I think what you said and he he said can both be true.  I do not think the biggest of capitalists/corporate interests have ANY interest at all in preserving any sort of native culture out of the nations they operate in.  In some cases, I think they might just be OK with trading our the current crop of citizens for others that they feel better suit their interests.  So I think what he says is true, and what you said is true.  Both things can certainly be true.

What he said about the need to replace the French people with foreigners is objectively false, and it's genocidal.  It's like saying, "Lots of Jews were killed in WW2 therefore Israel needed millions of Muslim and African men to build a Jewish state, and become permanent residents who are now Jewish."  They didn't.  Neither did France.  Neither did Japan.  Thankfully, Japan didn't have any "good guys" in their country which is why they're still Japanese.  Japan got nuke twice and still didn't need to be replaced.  It really says a lot about the Allies who rewarded the Founding Stocks of the various countries with genocide through replacement.  Makes me question the entire Good Guy/Bad Guy narrative.

As for being capitalism, capitalism is not a political system, nor a political ideology.  The people of France are being systematically replaced and displaced by "good guy" liberal democracy.  Both see people as interchangeable, but only one is a lauded moral political ideology that constantly pats itself on the back.

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2022, 03:42:58 AM »
Didn't France import as many North African Muslims as they could, then have issues as the migrants refused to assimilate? Or am I mistaken?

After WW2 France had a need of manpower to rebuild their country and later to grow economically during the '60s.

Thats capitalism, not wokism.

That's objectively false, and it's genocidal.

  I think what you said and he he said can both be true.  I do not think the biggest of capitalists/corporate interests have ANY interest at all in preserving any sort of native culture out of the nations they operate in.  In some cases, I think they might just be OK with trading our the current crop of citizens for others that they feel better suit their interests.  So I think what he says is true, and what you said is true.  Both things can certainly be true.

What he said about the need to replace the French people with foreigners is objectively false, and it's genocidal.  It's like saying, "Lots of Jews were killed in WW2 therefore Israel needed millions of Muslim and African men to build a Jewish state, and become permanent residents who are now Jewish."  They didn't.  Neither did France.  Neither did Japan.  Thankfully, Japan didn't have any "good guys" in their country which is why they're still Japanese.  Japan got nuke twice and still didn't need to be replaced.  It really says a lot about the Allies who rewarded the Founding Stocks of the various countries with genocide through replacement.  Makes me question the entire Good Guy/Bad Guy narrative.

As for being capitalism, capitalism is not a political system, nor a political ideology.  The people of France are being systematically replaced and displaced by "good guy" liberal democracy.  Both see people as interchangeable, but only one is a lauded moral political ideology that constantly pats itself on the back.

Manpower as in workforce. Workers that can work for cheaper wages. Not replace culture.
In as much as they (the rulers) think of culture of the immigrants they expect all the arriving people to shed their old culture and assimilate.
They don't realize its no longer the 18th century and they can't just import slaves they can force convert to christianity that easily anymore.






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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2022, 08:46:38 AM »
Didn't France import as many North African Muslims as they could, then have issues as the migrants refused to assimilate? Or am I mistaken?

After WW2 France had a need of manpower to rebuild their country and later to grow economically during the '60s.

Thats capitalism, not wokism.

That's objectively false, and it's genocidal.

  I think what you said and he he said can both be true.  I do not think the biggest of capitalists/corporate interests have ANY interest at all in preserving any sort of native culture out of the nations they operate in.  In some cases, I think they might just be OK with trading our the current crop of citizens for others that they feel better suit their interests.  So I think what he says is true, and what you said is true.  Both things can certainly be true.

What he said about the need to replace the French people with foreigners is objectively false, and it's genocidal.  It's like saying, "Lots of Jews were killed in WW2 therefore Israel needed millions of Muslim and African men to build a Jewish state, and become permanent residents who are now Jewish."  They didn't.  Neither did France.  Neither did Japan.  Thankfully, Japan didn't have any "good guys" in their country which is why they're still Japanese.  Japan got nuke twice and still didn't need to be replaced.  It really says a lot about the Allies who rewarded the Founding Stocks of the various countries with genocide through replacement.  Makes me question the entire Good Guy/Bad Guy narrative.

As for being capitalism, capitalism is not a political system, nor a political ideology.  The people of France are being systematically replaced and displaced by "good guy" liberal democracy.  Both see people as interchangeable, but only one is a lauded moral political ideology that constantly pats itself on the back.

  Capitalism in a pure form does not really exist though.  It is more crony capitalism in most places, and that liberal democracy certainly loves "diversity", but the reality is, liberal/conservative or whatever, if the business wants cheap (and like in the USA VERY easy to control) labor, they just buy enough politicians to get it.  There is not a doubt in my mind Facebook and Google would GLADLY replace their entire workforce in the USA with H1B visa holders who just do as they are told for a fraction of the wages.   Of course the law can only be bent so far to that end, and the reality is the workers being brought in simply can not do what the native workers can from a perspective of experience/knowledge/talent etc.   So I think the drive for that replacement has more than one motivator.  Though the French doing mass imports of foreigners during the 60's while the USA was getting the hart-seller act passed at the same time does look like the idea for "invigorating the workforce" could have come from one of those Bilderberg meetings to help everyone get on the same page.

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2022, 10:05:30 AM »
Skipping over most of what was discussed here, but the fundamental building blocks of the modern woke movement comes from french philosophers who were marxists and exported their ideas to the USA, so, #1 point is, fuck you france. Cambodia's commie revolution was directly influenced by french education, it was called the khmer "rouge" for crying out loud. 

But also, #2, fuck you soviet union for funding marxist social groups and political parties in the USA that promoted their cultural poison that picked up on the ideas being exported from france, and shoving people into government positions over 70 years leading to what we have now.

So once again we have europeans fucking around with what was good with america, and now the backfire of what europeans created is kicking them in the ass, so fuck you europe its not america's problem its europes poison that keeps ruining good things for everyone else.

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2022, 04:22:44 PM »
What he said about the need to replace the French people with foreigners is objectively false, and it's genocidal.  It's like saying, "Lots of Jews were killed in WW2 therefore Israel needed millions of Muslim and African men to build a Jewish state, and become permanent residents who are now Jewish."  They didn't.  Neither did France.  Neither did Japan.  Thankfully, Japan didn't have any "good guys" in their country which is why they're still Japanese.

AtomicPope - it seems you're using "genocide" such that if two populations mix and intermarry, then it is "genocide" because the distinct genotypes become mixed, but that's a very non-standard use of the term. In common usage, "genocide" only refers to killing people because of their genetics.

Yes, Japan has remained opposed to immigration, so they are still more genetically distinct than countries with lots of immigration like the U.S. I don't think that is a great success story, though. Japan had a powerful economy within its first generation, but at present it has an aging population and very negative population growth. It has steadily been losing its economic edge since the 1990s.

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Re: France rejects "woke" culture. Claiming it is Americas worst "export"
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2022, 06:43:26 PM »
What he said about the need to replace the French people with foreigners is objectively false, and it's genocidal.  It's like saying, "Lots of Jews were killed in WW2 therefore Israel needed millions of Muslim and African men to build a Jewish state, and become permanent residents who are now Jewish."  They didn't.  Neither did France.  Neither did Japan.  Thankfully, Japan didn't have any "good guys" in their country which is why they're still Japanese.

AtomicPope - it seems you're using "genocide" such that if two populations mix and intermarry, then it is "genocide" because the distinct genotypes become mixed, but that's a very non-standard use of the term. In common usage, "genocide" only refers to killing people because of their genetics.

Yes, Japan has remained opposed to immigration, so they are still more genetically distinct than countries with lots of immigration like the U.S. I don't think that is a great success story, though. Japan had a powerful economy within its first generation, but at present it has an aging population and very negative population growth. It has steadily been losing its economic edge since the 1990s.

You're all over the place, no wonder you're confused.  The UN definition of genocide is not constrained to "killing people because of their genetics", and with good reason.   Not to mention, talking about Japan's economic decline as if conceptual economics is more important than the existence of actual people is pathological.  It's even more ludicrous considering the current economic decline in many places that don't have Japan's apparent problem of living a long, healthy life.