Enjoy.

[deadDMwalking]

He must have had one hell of a cocaine bender to ...

If you think I do coke then sign an affadvit to that effect. I'll happily sign an agreement to take a drug test at any time.

But you won't because you're just a troll saying random things.

Therefore: all your claims need to be ignored.

Sorry Zak.  I meant coke-bender as a colloquialism and back-handed compliment.  You see, most people don't post multiple times in a row and instead make an effort to put everything in to a single coherent thought to enable the audience to follow along more easily.  Multiple posts are indicative of a high energy level, like jittery from too much caffeine, on meth (speed), or high from cocaine.  But some people are just naturally energetic and may appear frenetic or manic for no reason at all. 

It was my IMPRESSION that your posts had slowed down, your tone had improved, and you were perhaps becoming disengaged.  But then your more recent series of posts reversed that impression. 

But if it matters to you, I'm happy to state for the record: I have no reason to suspect that Zak S. has ever taken a controlled substance legally or illegally, with or without a doctor's instruction.  While I have personally made the choice NOT to use what are called 'drugs' colloquially, I know many people who have made that choice, and using drugs recreationally does not automatically carry a stigma in my mind.  Particularly with marijuana I know a lot of people who use the drug regularly but do not appear to have become impaired or jeopardized their life.  I in no way meant to imply that Zak S. was in any way less responsible for his actions the way I would if I knew he had a substance abuse problem that interfered with his normal judgement. 

Zak S is an asshole with no drugs at all. 

[Zak S]

While it's good that Deaddmwalking has corrected one piece of misinformation its important to note he is still a troll and will have to correct many more false statements before what he says can be taken seriously by any reasonable person or be considered an accurate source of information.

A recent, obvious example, he said:

.  What's AMAZING is watching him tell Mistwell that if Mistwell feels emotionally abused by Zak that he needs to show PROOF or it is defamation. 

As you can see from the exchange here, I said nothing of the kind:

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/enjoy/900/

Mistwell only needs to show proof if he wants to say he was abused, not if he wants to claim he feels a certain way. The courts have concurred on this exact point.

And even then, he only has to do that if he wants to be a good person or one whose claims reasonable people can rely on.

[deadDMwalking]

While it's good that Deaddmwalking has corrected one piece of misinformation its important to note he is still a troll and will have to correct many more false statements before what he says can be taken seriously by any reasonable person or be considered an accurate source of information.

Zak, I stand by the claim that I have not made ANY OTHER FALSE STATEMENTS.  It remains my sincerely held belief that you are an asshole, which I admit is entirely based on my subjective standard.  Most of my arguments in this thread have been supporting why MY DEFINITION aligns with the COMMONLY HELD definition. 

I maintain that you are, essentially, saying that you can say mean things about me because I said mean things about you first.  That is an accusation and you have not provided proof.  Therefore, you have failed to meet the standard you set for yourself. 

I do claim that you said mean things about me before I said mean things about you.  You have insisted that I provide evidence, because you claim it is an accusation and all accusations require proof.  If that were true, you'd provide evidence for your accusation, then I could rebut.  It is not fair for you to always lay the burden of proof on others when you're ALSO MAKING ACCUSATIONS.  That makes you an asshole.

Additionally, I maintain that it doesn't matter who called someone a poopy-head first.  Insisting it does is juvenile, and obviously so.  Pretending that you are justified in the same behavior if it happens first would logically mean that if you provide an example of me being mean to you and I prove that you were mean first, by your definitions and rigid expectations, you would owe me an apology and would have to correct all of your false statements up to this point.  Again, remember, that is YOUR STANDARD that you want to hold everyone else to; not mine.  If you are sincere and that is the standard you are using, you are an asshole because you are maintaining a double standard - an accusation I have made multiple times and you have never refuted, only claiming that other people are making accusations that are unfounded, but your accusations are well-founded and require no proof beyond your interpretation of their innermost thoughts and feelings. 

Now, because I don't think it matters whether you called me a name first or I called you first, I feel compelled to explain that I think you are an asshole not because you said mean things to me.  Lots of people do that, and it doesn't bother me at all.  This is the internet.  I expect hyperbole, a certain amount of violent AGREEMENT and even more violent disagreement.  I am not worried about tone or civility.  While I think those are admirable traits, I, unlike you, do not insist that the people I interact with meet my rigid standards of civilized debate before I recognize that they are human beings.  It should thus be emphasized, nothing about the way you insult people is included in my accusation that you are an asshole.  While I understand that other people think tone and civility are important, and MANY PEOPLE think you are an asshole because of your tone, I am willing to overlook that and focus SOLELY ON YOUR ACTIONS. 

Mistwell only needs to show proof if he wants to say he was abused, not if he wants to claim he feels a certain way.

And even then, he only has to do that if he wants to be a good person or one whose claims reasonable people can rely on.

If someone feels abused, they were abused.  You're an asshole and one reason you're an asshole is that you refuse to agree on the definition of words.  I am going to use this definition for abuse: treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly.  I am further going to define cruelty as: callous indifference to or pleasure in causing pain and suffering.

If someone says that they FEEL abused and you say 'prove that the level of callous treatment I am directing toward you meets the definition of abuse' you are showing callous indifference to claimed suffering.  That makes you an asshole, even if you think that person is too sensitive or over-reacting. 

Abuse, like you being an asshole are measured subjectively by the person using the terms.  Your failure to realize and insistence that you are the judge of what objectively meets the definition is not acceptable, and one of the reasons I say you are an asshole. 

Now, in this post I have explained how multiple actions you take show that you meet my definition of asshole.  You have not denied that you participate in these actions.  You have tried to claim that even if you do it, you're not an asshole, but you haven't provided an ACTUAL REASON other than claiming that since you don't think you're an asshole, you couldn't possibly be an asshole.  Rebutting the accusation with 'I'm not actually an asshole so you're lying' is not a rebuttal.  You can't say 'I do the things that make someone an asshole, but that label doesn't apply to me'.  You could argue that those behaviors aren't consistent with being an asshole, but I don't think you have. 

As far as I'm concerned, you've admitted to all of the behaviors that I've defined as what makes you an asshole.  More importantly, in this thread you have demonstrated those behaviors again and again. 

And what is staggering to me is how often I've invited you to demonstrate you're an asshole, and you've done it.  You literally must be the least self-aware and yet SELF-ABSORBED person I've ever met (online or otherwise). 


@Mistwell: I know that Zak is not worth engaging, and I know you've decided that before and I expect you'll decide it again.  I think that Zak's naked cruelty is on full display in his responses to you, so I would appreciate you leaving your posts for posterity, rather than editing them if you choose to disengage.  Zak is an asshole and he has been abusive toward you (at least in my estimation) and I understand the temptation to remove your comments.  However, they provide context for others, and I think they deserve to remain as proof of the behaviors I've outlined above. 

[Zak S]

Zak, I stand by the claim that I have not made ANY OTHER FALSE STATEMENTS.

You claimed I didn't follow my own rules:

Fine, then say the first time you thought I was being unfair and breaking faith with anyone.

Zak, I refuse to do your work for you.

...but then you couldn't prove it.

You not only made many false statements, by refusing to give proof you committed a burden of proof fallacy while you were at it.

I maintain that you are, essentially, saying that you can say mean things about me because I said mean things about you first. That is an accusation and you have not provided proof.

I didn't say anything about "mean things". That's a vague category I don't use --and sometimes saying mean things is justified

So that's another lie.

I made much more concrete claims: misinformation and first-strike personal attacks. Those are not justifiable here.

The first ever interaction I'm aware we had is you stating misinformation about your tongue shoving fantasy ( http://www.tgdmb.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=55466 )

And your first interaction in this thread was a personal attack https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/enjoy/375/

Abuse, like you being an asshole are measured subjectively by the person using the terms. 

In addition to abuse, what other crimes are subjective in your troll brain? Tax fraud? Breaking and entering? Murder?

Again, the courts do not agree with you. Abuse is a word with a definition.

If abuse were subjective this thread wouldn't exist, since Ettin got succesffully sued over falsely claiming I was an abuser. If the defense "abuse is subjective" were available to him, then he could've took it and won. Lots of people have been successfully sued for defamation for falsely claiming abuse--that's not a thing they can do in the case of "asshole".

These things prove you're a troll and nothing else you propose needs to be taken seriously. Your claims are not reliable.

[Zak S]

double post

[deadDMwalking]

These things prove you're a troll and nothing else you propose needs to be taken seriously. Your claims are not reliable.

Says you.  I claim that YOU are not reliable.  But again, I'm content to let the readers decide.  You're really doing an excellent job making it easy for them to see my position.  Thank you for that.

[FingerRod]

These things prove you're a troll and nothing else you propose needs to be taken seriously. Your claims are not reliable.

Says you.  I claim that YOU are not reliable.  But again, I'm content to let the readers decide.  You're really doing an excellent job making it easy for them to see my position.  Thank you for that.

I don't think that is going to go how you think it will.

I'd be willing to bet most around here think you're both a couple of wanks. And the ideal situation is something close to Zak suing the fuck out of as many people as possible and then falling into a black hole, pulling a couple of you bed-wetters with him.

[Tubesock Army]

I didn't think Zak could get any crazier, but comparing disagreeing with him online to murder is hilariously on brand.

[Zak S]

I didn't think Zak could get any crazier, but comparing disagreeing with him online to murder is hilariously on brand.

I didn't say anything about merely"disagreeing" with me being a transgression of any kind.

Since the comments you're referring to are right here in post 933 above on this same page, that proves (again) you're lying (or too negligent to check your accusations, that you're a troll and that your claims can't be taken seriously.

[the crypt keeper]

Alcohol is sooo much better than coke.

[Elfdart]

For example, I've read Mandy's accusations.  Even if they rose to the level of defamation in court, that doesn't mean that the substance is false.     

In every country in the English-speaking world, truth is an absolute defense in cases of libel/slander/defamation. So in order for a claim to be defamatory/libelous/slanderous it must be substantively false.

[Theory of Games]

Remember "Punk" ?

It was so free. It was FUCK THIS. It meant something in an age of corporate hug. Punk was FU culture. It was freedom.

And now it's banned. Now if you say "Fk the establishment" you get banned. Crazy.

Keep being wild. Fk the establishment.

[Rob Necronomicon]

Remember "Punk" ?

It was so free. It was FUCK THIS. It meant something in an age of corporate hug. Punk was FU culture. It was freedom.

Music to my ears... Unfortuntely many so-called punks tuned into faux punks.

[King Tyranno]

I didn't think Zak could get any crazier, but comparing disagreeing with him online to murder is hilariously on brand.

God just imagine if he actually had the self awareness to realize that if he stopped championing the very actions that led to his cancellation, and stopped still championing both those actions as it isn't him getting cancelled and the alphabet doctrine he could very well of not gotten cancelled. He could've even gotten a decent girlfriend who wasn't a BPD ridden porn star with a big flickering sign over her reading "I will absolutely ruin your life".  He didn't have to become a right wing bible thumping redneck evil trump voting person. He could've maintained his left wing socialist beliefs but with a functional social life that wasn't dictated by the whims of mentally unwell people.

[Zak S]

God just imagine if he actually had the self awareness to realize that if he stopped championing....

As I've explained several times: I know that pointing out shitty people lying is not going to go down well with the shitty people who lie.

I believe in doing the right thing even when it's unpopular.