Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game

[blackstone]

There has always been a range of views on homosexuality. Some people celebrate it, some people accept it, some people tolerate it, some people disapprove of it, some people hate it. I think there are both more people who accept it, and more people who tolerate it in 2020 compared to 1995.

As I said, that doesn't mean that everybody accepts it, but acceptance is much more common. I agree that thinking cannot be forced, but thinking can change -- and in this case, it has. I can see that in various polls and politics, as well as general discussion.

Someone might consider that a bad thing, but it has happened nonetheless.

Changing one's own mind should be done freely without coercion, and that's what pisses the SJWs off to no end by yelling, screaming, and otherwise throwing a tantrum.
They can't get that one simple fact. It's very comical, but at the very same time distressing. Why? Because a good portion of them want to actually change the Constitution when it comes to freedom of speech. I've seen the interviews. I watched how they want to control not just speech, but what we think. They don't understand that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from being offended.

They need to grow thick skins and understand that *SPOILER ALERT* not everyone will agree with you, think the way you do, or believe the same things you do.
They don't understand that each of us having our own beliefs, thoughts, and opinions are the very things that make this nation great: it's our right.
And we can disagree, politely, either in private discussion or in a public forum using rhetoric, grammar, and discourse.

But most of them would rather scream and yell like a 5 year-old not getting their way.

[Spinachcat]

If gay dudes and lesbians don't dickstomp the tranny nonsense around kids and the creeping influence of pedos in the alphabet soup movement, they are going to lose decades of progress in tolerance and acceptance.

And the SJWs don't want acceptance. They want submission. You will think as you are told, or else.

[Gagarth]

There has always been a range of views on homosexuality. Some people celebrate it, some people accept it, some people tolerate it, some people disapprove of it, some people hate it. I think there are both more people who accept it, and more people who tolerate it in 2020 compared to 1995.
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There are a range of views on heterosexuality. Some people celebrate it, some people accept it, some people tolerate it, some people disapprove of it, some people hate it.

[Mordred Pendragon]

If gay dudes and lesbians don't dickstomp the tranny nonsense around kids and the creeping influence of pedos in the alphabet soup movement, they are going to lose decades of progress in tolerance and acceptance.

And the SJWs don't want acceptance. They want submission. You will think as you are told, or else.

Agreed. We need to boot out the trannies, SJW's, and pedophiles fast.

We told NAMBLA to fuck off tn the 70's when this whole thing started. So there is a precedent we can use against the detractors.

There are a range of views on heterosexuality. Some people celebrate it, some people accept it, some people tolerate it, some people disapprove of it, some people hate it.

Hey, I'm cool with heterosexuality and see it as a good thing.

[Ghostmaker]

Agreed. We need to boot out the trannies, SJW's, and pedophiles fast.

We told NAMBLA to fuck off tn the 70's when this whole thing started. So there is a precedent we can use against the detractors.

Sadly, homosexuals as a subculture seem to have a pattern of doing self-destructive stupid things.

[Mordred Pendragon]

Sadly, homosexuals as a subculture seem to have a pattern of doing self-destructive stupid things.

Unfortunately true, which is why I went ghost and keep my head down in the real world.


Although the AIDS epidemic that's the most commonly cited was also one of those black swan events that nobody really saw coming and gay/bi men were just unlucky enough to be among the first to catch the bullet as it were.

Since HIV takes a very long time to activate, a lot of people were infected and did not know it for the longest time, amplifying the transmission.

By the time anyone knew what the fuck was going on, it was already too late.

However, younger generations should not be so foolhardy about HIV just because they have new drugs.

Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.

This goes for gays, bisexuals, and straights and is just good advice in general.

[Spinachcat]

HIV/AIDS is seen as a "gay disease", but 1/4 of the victims are heterosexual.
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics

We told NAMBLA to fuck off tn the 70's when this whole thing started. So there is a precedent we can use against the detractors.

Absolutely. There definitely needs to be action taken ASAP and I believe gays and lesbians with children of their own would support the pushback against the normalization of pedos. And when the SJWs pop up to defend the pedos, they get hammered down too.

[jhkim]

Absolutely. There definitely needs to be action taken ASAP and I believe gays and lesbians with children of their own would support the pushback against the normalization of pedos. And when the SJWs pop up to defend the pedos, they get hammered down too.

"Think of the children" has long been a generic rallying cry for either political side. Pedophiles suck -- and what's notable is that liberals use them as a rallying cry against conservatives, and conservatives against liberals. Liberals preferred examples are straight white pedophiles, while conservatives preferred examples are gay pedophiles.

[Spinachcat]

I'm happy to burn pedos of any flavor. I couldn't care about their color, gender or orientation. And as a former teacher of abused kids, I really mean BURN.  

Unfortunately, the gay community has had a problem with pedo-infilitration over the decades, from NAMBLA in the early days to today's Tranny Storytime freaks. I've known gay men who were abused as children and they're extremely clear pedos are a terrible danger to young gay kids because of how the rapists slip into positions of trust under mistakes of tolerance and acceptance. It's different methods, but the same kind of infiltration we've seen in the Catholic Church.  

As gay marriage has led to more gay families via adoption and insemination, its imperative gay parents break out their stomping boots. But I totally understand that would ostracize them from the "main movement", just like feminists who promote women's issues are getting tossed out of feminism for not bowing to the dudes with boobs crew.

[Mordred Pendragon]

I'm happy to burn pedos of any flavor. I couldn't care about their color, gender or orientation. And as a former teacher of abused kids, I really mean BURN.  

Unfortunately, the gay community has had a problem with pedo-infilitration over the decades, from NAMBLA in the early days to today's Tranny Storytime freaks. I've known gay men who were abused as children and they're extremely clear pedos are a terrible danger to young gay kids because of how the rapists slip into positions of trust under mistakes of tolerance and acceptance. It's different methods, but the same kind of infiltration we've seen in the Catholic Church.  

As gay marriage has led to more gay families via adoption and insemination, its imperative gay parents break out their stomping boots. But I totally understand that would ostracize them from the "main movement", just like feminists who promote women's issues are getting tossed out of feminism for not bowing to the dudes with boobs crew.

I know I say this a lot in response to your posts, but this guy fucking gets it!

HIV/AIDS is seen as a "gay disease", but 1/4 of the victims are heterosexual.
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics




Absolutely. There definitely needs to be action taken ASAP and I believe gays and lesbians with children of their own would support the pushback against the normalization of pedos. And when the SJWs pop up to defend the pedos, they get hammered down too.

And when it comes time to stomp down the pedo and SJW's, I will be right there to help you and all the other LGBT parents in stomping them out. Let's fight the good fight.

As for the global HIV statistic, the majority of people with HIV/AIDS are actually straight women, mostly in African countries, with South Africa being hit the hardest of the lot.

In the United States, it was largely seen as the disease of gay men and junkies since they were the demographics where it was first discovered and who had the highest rates of casualties in the peak years of the pandemic in the 80's and 90's.

Again, it was due to luck of the draw that the gay community got hit the hardest and hit first when HIV first arrived in the United States during the 1970's.

It was a novel virus that took a long time to exhibit any symptoms at all, so it spread like wildfire and nobody knew it until it was too late.

Given that HIV arrived at a time when the "free love" of the 60's counterculture had gone fully mainstream, it could've been the heterosexual community that would've got hit hardest if things played out just a little differently.

[jhkim]

I'm happy to burn pedos of any flavor. I couldn't care about their color, gender or orientation. And as a former teacher of abused kids, I really mean BURN.  

Unfortunately, the gay community has had a problem with pedo-infilitration over the decades, from NAMBLA in the early days to today's Tranny Storytime freaks. I've known gay men who were abused as children and they're extremely clear pedos are a terrible danger to young gay kids because of how the rapists slip into positions of trust under mistakes of tolerance and acceptance. It's different methods, but the same kind of infiltration we've seen in the Catholic Church.

As gay marriage has led to more gay families via adoption and insemination, its imperative gay parents break out their stomping boots.

Sure, but the straight community has had a problem with pedo-infiltration for centuries. And straight parents have failed to stomp it out. Sadly, one of the common forms of sexual abuse is abusing one's own family. And pedophiles have risen to the top of the straight community -- like Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, or an array of celebrities from Woody Allen to Roman Polanski.

The accusation that gay == pedophile, and that children aren't safe around gays, is an extremely old one -- and overwhelmingly has been based on anti-gay bias. It was regularly the practice to ban gay teachers or other gays who worked with children, but I don't think that was a fair or reasonable practice. The gay and transgender teachers that I have known have been excellent teachers, care for kids, and hate pedophiles. I think gay people should be allowed to be teachers, adoptive parents, or otherwise be around children without discrimination.

The focus should be on finding and prosecuting pedophiles in general, and I don't think reducing the tolerance of gays improves that.

[Spinachcat]

Jhkim, you're right, especially about child abuse being perpetrated much more by trusted family and family friends than by random strangers. For my students, the abusers were often in their foster care group homes.

But public opinion is led heavily by optics, and the optics of pride parades and tranny story hours aren't good, especially combined with social media freaks clamoring for "love knows no age" and other calls to normalize pedophilia in the name of tolerance. Unfortunately, bad optics often lead to innocent people getting blamed. The majority of Catholic priests never abused a child, but all Catholic priests now share the shame and the pressure and nigh-universal disrespect outside of their religion.

And unless the gay community purges their freaks, they will be defined by the freaks' worst behavior in the minds of the public, regardless how much the media tries to shift the narrative. In fact, the combo of the freaks' behavior plus the media demands for gay acceptance ensures deeper distrust by the public.

[jhkim]

Jhkim, you're right, especially about child abuse being perpetrated much more by trusted family and family friends than by random strangers. For my students, the abusers were often in their foster care group homes.

But public opinion is led heavily by optics, and the optics of pride parades and tranny story hours aren't good, especially combined with social media freaks clamoring for "love knows no age" and other calls to normalize pedophilia in the name of tolerance. Unfortunately, bad optics often lead to innocent people getting blamed. The majority of Catholic priests never abused a child, but all Catholic priests now share the shame and the pressure and nigh-universal disrespect outside of their religion.

I think deliberately focusing on optics rather than actual abusers is a mistake, though. You say it leads to innocent people getting blamed. But there are plenty of actual abusers to target. And what I see in public opinion is actually increasing support for gays and lesbians around children. For example, these are Gallup poll answers over the years:

Do you think gays and lesbians should or should not be allowed to adopt children?
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   [td]1977 Jun 17-20[/td]
   [td]14% Yes[/td]
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   [td]2003 May 5-7[/td]
   [td]49% Yes[/td]
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   [td]2014 May 8-11[/td]
   [td]63% Yes[/td]
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   [td]2019 May 15-30[/td]
   [td]75% Yes[/td]
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Source: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx

That's major change increase in support in just a few years. I think that's a good thing. Let's give respect to gay and lesbian people who just want to be parents, teachers, and otherwise - and stomp on actual abusers and those who defend them, whether gay or straight.

[DocJones]

...pedophiles have risen to the top of the straight community -- like Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, or an array of celebrities from Woody Allen to Roman Polanski.

I don't think pedophile is an accurate term to describe Woody Allen.  According to a court investigation Soon-Yi was 21.  I think it's more a violation of trust her being the adopted daughter of his then wife.
However my opinion is that the bulk of child abusers are "mom's boyfriend".

[jhkim]

I don't think pedophile is an accurate term to describe Woody Allen.  According to a court investigation Soon-Yi was 21.  I think it's more a violation of trust her being the adopted daughter of his then wife.
However my opinion is that the bulk of child abusers are "mom's boyfriend".

OK. I don't want to get hung up on a single example. As you say, there are tons of other "mom's boyfriend" abusers.