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Author Topic: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game  (Read 16357 times)

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #495 on: March 26, 2021, 11:05:16 PM »
Back to the main point, I put up:

SJWs have changed the Overton window enough that Diversity is often not even discussed as an idea: it's just accepted to be a fundamentally good thing. Even most that resist the SJW worldview are only allowed to discuss whether or not SJW diversity is real or not, or if the diversity is 'organic' or not, or if it's' too much' diversity.

I don't believe diversity is inherently a bad thing, but I think the idea of it being an inherently good thing has to be shaken off for real counter progress to be made.

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« Reply #496 on: March 27, 2021, 09:06:30 AM »
Back to the main point, I put up:

SJWs have changed the Overton window enough that Diversity is often not even discussed as an idea: it's just accepted to be a fundamentally good thing. Even most that resist the SJW worldview are only allowed to discuss whether or not SJW diversity is real or not, or if the diversity is 'organic' or not, or if it's' too much' diversity.

I don't believe diversity is inherently a bad thing, but I think the idea of it being an inherently good thing has to be shaken off for real counter progress to be made.

Also, their idea of diversity is idiosyncratic. It’s nothing about diversity of thought or experience, but entirely superficial features like skin color and sexual orientation. These are prioritized over anything else.

Which ironically ends up being harmful to Asian-Americans. They’re now considered white-adjacent (i.e. too financially successful on average) and therefore fair game for systemic racism. If you’re Asian, then colleges will arbitrarily reduce your eligibility compared to black and white people.

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #497 on: March 28, 2021, 06:01:53 PM »


Empty voids of self-misery.


Yesterday in the /rpg sub a user requested ideas for creating a most-likely doomed character storyline (there were planned ways to avoid actual doom, and the request was for ideas for a fevered dream state). They were immediately accosted by a user obsessed with wondering if they had “permission”, continuously berating the poster in a barrage of baseless assumptions. After 5-6 of these replies, the user deleted the thread, and their account. I quickly scanned the history of our valiant warrior, and their job done, they were already onto the next person.

They're a lot like the shitty neighbour that calls the HMO over every slight code violation.
I hope you mean "calls the HOA" because if you have neighbors that wrapped up in your healthcare, then things have really gone screwy.

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« Reply #498 on: March 29, 2021, 07:52:22 PM »
I avoided being pulled into a confrontation with an SJW today. S/He said that it’s vitally important to represent black people because of the riots and history and shit when I said  that I didn’t care about race/gender/whatever because its presence doesn’t improve bad writing.

I don’t see how making every fictional character black is going to improve the lives of actual African-Americans.

We have no shortage of black representation already. Superheroes, sitcoms, etc. Do these people not understand that there was representation before and after they were born in after 1997?

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« Reply #499 on: March 29, 2021, 10:26:42 PM »
Like how they gender swap characters because there's no strong women heroes in movies? You know, like Ellen Ripley, Leia, Red Sonja, Joan of Arc, Batwoman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Jamie Lee Curtis in all of the Halloween movies, etc. Etc.

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #500 on: April 09, 2021, 12:44:04 AM »
I wonder
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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #501 on: April 09, 2021, 01:43:27 AM »
I'm not reading thirty-plus pages of this circle-jerk, have we gotten to trying to kill them all yet or what.
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« Reply #502 on: April 09, 2021, 01:51:16 AM »
I don’t see how making every fictional character black is going to improve the lives of actual African-Americans.

It ain't but, and this is a shot in the dark with the gun pointing at my head here, guessin people around here aren't big on the other material improvement suggestions outside've teaching them more personal responsibility. Don't take RPGsiters to be big reparations/reduced police violence/urban self-defense militia folks
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« Reply #503 on: April 09, 2021, 01:51:47 AM »
I'm not reading thirty-plus pages of this circle-jerk, have we gotten to trying to kill them all yet or what.

We decided that we'll try rounding them all up and putting them in concentration camps first.
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« Reply #504 on: April 09, 2021, 01:54:36 AM »
I'm not reading thirty-plus pages of this circle-jerk, have we gotten to trying to kill them all yet or what.

We decided that we'll try rounding them all up and putting them in concentration camps first.

Waste of time, get 'em now before they start catching up to the arms gap.
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« Reply #505 on: April 11, 2021, 11:30:54 AM »
You guys may find this post interesting: https://elf-esteem.tumblr.com/post/116147608507/racism-in-middle-earth-no-not-really-also-some

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Complaining about racism in Middle-earth, ‘booo! there’s too many white people!’, is like saying that other ethnicities are under represented in The Romance of the Three Kingdoms.  The Han Dynasty should have what?  Been more open-minded to other peoples of the world?

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« Reply #506 on: April 11, 2021, 12:47:38 PM »
You guys may find this post interesting: https://elf-esteem.tumblr.com/post/116147608507/racism-in-middle-earth-no-not-really-also-some

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Complaining about racism in Middle-earth, ‘booo! there’s too many white people!’, is like saying that other ethnicities are under represented in The Romance of the Three Kingdoms.  The Han Dynasty should have what?  Been more open-minded to other peoples of the world?
Yeah, logic doesn't work well with these mouth-breathing morons, BCT. You may remember that the duh-versity brigade cried about how little color diversity there was in the Witcher series.

The game. Based on a book set in a fantasy Poland.

Or for that matter, the whining about lack of diversity in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, set in... medieval Bohemia.

Remember, the refrain is 'to hell with logic or consistency or accuracy, we must have our perfect diversity of color!'

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« Reply #507 on: April 11, 2021, 02:20:50 PM »
Damn Witcher and Kingdom Come these takes are hot out the oven.
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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #508 on: April 11, 2021, 02:35:42 PM »
Damn Witcher and Kingdom Come these takes are hot out the oven.
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« Reply #509 on: April 11, 2021, 02:39:02 PM »
You guys may find this post interesting: https://elf-esteem.tumblr.com/post/116147608507/racism-in-middle-earth-no-not-really-also-some

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Complaining about racism in Middle-earth, ‘booo! there’s too many white people!’, is like saying that other ethnicities are under represented in The Romance of the Three Kingdoms.  The Han Dynasty should have what?  Been more open-minded to other peoples of the world?
Yeah, logic doesn't work well with these mouth-breathing morons, BCT. You may remember that the duh-versity brigade cried about how little color diversity there was in the Witcher series.

The game. Based on a book set in a fantasy Poland.

Or for that matter, the whining about lack of diversity in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, set in... medieval Bohemia.

Remember, the refrain is 'to hell with logic or consistency or accuracy, we must have our perfect diversity of color!'
Ack-shually, the Witcher’s setting is a generic pseudo-Europe based on the author’s D&D campaign. There are some token Slavic elements (some monsters come from Slavic folklore), but they’re vastly overshadowed by the generic post-Tolkien post-D&D fantasy-isms like elves, dwarves, and d’ao genies.

C.J. Cherryh’s Rusalka novels struck me as much more overtly Slavic fantasy (among other things, it’s not based on D&D), but the author is from Missouri of all places.