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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #390 on: October 18, 2020, 05:21:00 PM »
I am Canadian what is wrong with Canada. It's not perfect no country is.

I honestly didn't think I needed a smiley for that comment.  :D

I might have been implying that The Pundit's comment was a little over the top.
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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #391 on: October 18, 2020, 07:44:03 PM »
I am Canadian what is wrong with Canada. It's not perfect no country is.
Oh, come on, my f.riend! Ummm..as I've been told by a good number of your fellow Canadians--they have testified that Canada has become a socialist, globalist tyrannical nanny state that firmly supports open borders, mass immigration by foreigners that aren't compatible with Canadian traditions and culture--and seek to change Canada drastically--then there is the academic tyranny of forcing anyone and everyone to embrace an SJW, Globalist agenda--with dissenters persecuted, fired, and in some cases fined and put in prison; religious persecution against Christians--Christian preachers that preach and teach the Bible are harassed, fined, and arrested for "Hate Speech"--and of course, the uber-tyrannical Gun Control Laws that forbid Canadians from owning weapons essentially beyond a pellet gun.

That all sounds a whole lot like a Socialist, Globalist, SJW, Marxist shithole, wouldn't you agree, my friend?

That is not in any way equivalent to being Cuba or Venezuela, or the killing fields of Cambodia. There is no flood of refugees out from Canada. They have a higher life expectancy than the U.S., as well as a lower poverty rate and a lower suicide rate. I disapprove of Canada's free speech restrictions, but making out to be Cuba or Venezuela is nonsensical.

Also, some of this is false. Canada has a growing number of restrictions in recent years - most recently the assault weapon ban, but they still have some 4 million gun owners owning 20 million or so guns - mostly rifles and shotguns. They are second only to the U.S. in gun ownership within the First World. (#7 among all countries, behind the Falkland Islands, Yemen, and Serbia.)

https://thegunblog.ca/facts-stats/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country


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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #392 on: October 18, 2020, 08:22:01 PM »
I am Canadian what is wrong with Canada. It's not perfect no country is.
Oh, come on, my f.riend! Ummm..as I've been told by a good number of your fellow Canadians--they have testified that Canada has become a socialist, globalist tyrannical nanny state that firmly supports open borders, mass immigration by foreigners that aren't compatible with Canadian traditions and culture--and seek to change Canada drastically--then there is the academic tyranny of forcing anyone and everyone to embrace an SJW, Globalist agenda--with dissenters persecuted, fired, and in some cases fined and put in prison; religious persecution against Christians--Christian preachers that preach and teach the Bible are harassed, fined, and arrested for "Hate Speech"--and of course, the uber-tyrannical Gun Control Laws that forbid Canadians from owning weapons essentially beyond a pellet gun.

That all sounds a whole lot like a Socialist, Globalist, SJW, Marxist shithole, wouldn't you agree, my friend?

That is not in any way equivalent to being Cuba or Venezuela, or the killing fields of Cambodia. There is no flood of refugees out from Canada. They have a higher life expectancy than the U.S., as well as a lower poverty rate and a lower suicide rate. I disapprove of Canada's free speech restrictions, but making out to be Cuba or Venezuela is nonsensical.

Also, some of this is false. Canada has a growing number of restrictions in recent years - most recently the assault weapon ban, but they still have some 4 million gun owners owning 20 million or so guns - mostly rifles and shotguns. They are second only to the U.S. in gun ownership within the First World. (#7 among all countries, behind the Falkland Islands, Yemen, and Serbia.)

https://thegunblog.ca/facts-stats/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

Greetings!

Jhkim, you just contradicted yourself. Having "Assault weapons bans" is tyrannical gun control and tyranny--so it isn't "False". Fucking Liberal Morons define "Assault weapons" as anything beyond a pellet gun. SEMI AUTOMATCIC RIFLES ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Assault Rifles--as defined by the Nazis, who invented the first assault rifle in 1944, the Sturmgeveyr 44--defined as a rifle with a selector switch capable of semi auto fire--that's 1 shot per trigger pull--multi-round burst capability, and full auto weapons fire.

End of story.

Assault Weapons or Assault Rifles are no easier or less expensive to get here in America than they are in Canada. Genuine assault weapons are extremely difficult to purchase; they are very expensive; and you have to go through extensive background checks, licensing, fees, and other federal bureaucratic processes to obtain an assault rifle.

In America, for example, most of the few people that legally own assault weapons are very wealthy; specially licensed collectors; elite Hollywood producer/movie types, specially licensed firearms dealers and gunsmiths; or special, highly trained, elite mercenaries and professional security.

Canada has gun control laws that are more tyrannical than the BS laws in the state of California.

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« Reply #393 on: October 18, 2020, 08:34:13 PM »
Well it's not like the USA is exactly a bastion of Paradise either.

My country is not perfect neither is the USA. Both have their merits and flaws and I will leave it at that.

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« Reply #394 on: October 18, 2020, 08:55:27 PM »
Quote from: jhkim
Also, some of this is false. Canada has a growing number of restrictions in recent years - most recently the assault weapon ban, but they still have some 4 million gun owners owning 20 million or so guns - mostly rifles and shotguns. They are second only to the U.S. in gun ownership within the First World. (#7 among all countries, behind the Falkland Islands, Yemen, and Serbia.)

https://thegunblog.ca/facts-stats/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
Jhkim, you just contradicted yourself. Having "Assault weapons bans" is tyrannical gun control and tyranny--so it isn't "False". Fucking Liberal Morons define "Assault weapons" as anything beyond a pellet gun. SEMI AUTOMATCIC RIFLES ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Regardless of whether the assault weapon ban is tyrranical -- your claim was that Canadian law forbid Canadians from owning weapons beyond a pellet gun. In fact, millions of Canadians legally own 12-gauge shotguns, 30-06 hunting rifles, .38 revolvers, and many other weapons that are objectively far more than a pellet gun.

I'm opposed to assault weapon and high capacity magazine bans, but it's idiotic hyperbole to claim that all other weapons are somehow useless pellet guns.

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« Reply #395 on: October 18, 2020, 08:57:10 PM »
Well it's not like the USA is exactly a bastion of Paradise either.

My country is not perfect neither is the USA. Both have their merits and flaws and I will leave it at that.

Greetings!

There you are, Sureshot. No, no one is a bastion of paradise. I was teasing you and being more or less *facetious*. ;D

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #396 on: October 18, 2020, 09:07:25 PM »
Westminster Parliament sucks.
Transfer payments suck.
Constitutional amendment formula sucks.

Canada as a political entity sucks donkey balls.  Canada as a people is pretty good and the only thing really holding it together.  We have a beautiful country and are rightly proud of it but our systems are broken and corrupt as hell.

Apparently 600 million over 5 years is the the new 30 pieces of silver.

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« Reply #397 on: October 18, 2020, 09:13:29 PM »
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Also, some of this is false. Canada has a growing number of restrictions in recent years - most recently the assault weapon ban, but they still have some 4 million gun owners owning 20 million or so guns - mostly rifles and shotguns. They are second only to the U.S. in gun ownership within the First World. (#7 among all countries, behind the Falkland Islands, Yemen, and Serbia.)

https://thegunblog.ca/facts-stats/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
Jhkim, you just contradicted yourself. Having "Assault weapons bans" is tyrannical gun control and tyranny--so it isn't "False". Fucking Liberal Morons define "Assault weapons" as anything beyond a pellet gun. SEMI AUTOMATCIC RIFLES ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Regardless of whether the assault weapon ban is tyrranical -- your claim was that Canadian law forbid Canadians from owning weapons beyond a pellet gun. In fact, millions of Canadians legally own 12-gauge shotguns, 30-06 hunting rifles, .38 revolvers, and many other weapons that are objectively far more than a pellet gun.

I'm opposed to assault weapon and high capacity magazine bans, but it's idiotic hyperbole to claim that all other weapons are somehow useless pellet guns.

Greetings!

*Sigh* Ok, Jhkim. I'm being idiotically hyperbolic?

I think you are being mind-numbingly literalististic and pedantic.

From my perspective--as someone that enjoys a very broad range of firearms freedoms--being restricted to .38 revolvers, 12-guage shotguns, and bolt-action, 30.06 hunting rifles--while yes, being more than a pellet gun--is still tragic, sad, and pathetic as a testimony of gun ownership and defined freedom, in comparison.

People that know about firearms and are pro-gun and anti-tyranny all seem to understand the comparison just fine. Everyone knows how fucking Communist and tyrannical California is, for example. *shrugs* I've had actual Canadians--some right here on this forum--tell me that Canada's gun laws are pathetic and tyrannical. Gun owners in Arizona, Texas, and more besides--many of which were all former Californians--that have fled the Communist state have all described the gun laws and the anti-gun regime in California and in states and countries with similar anti-gun policies in the same manner.

And, well, I'm originally from California as well, so I know how tyrannical and anti-gun that state has become over the years.

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #398 on: October 18, 2020, 09:58:18 PM »
I've got a friend who's got a Canadian restricted firearms license and has worked for a company that supplies arms to the Canadian armed forces.  In his opinion (which is certainly more valid than mine, I'm not even a gun owner) the problem with Canadian fire arms laws is that they're not written by people who know anything about firearms and the primary basis for banning weapons is how scary they look.

And I'm living in Canada.  It's certainly no Cambodia.  But said friend once observed that democratic socialism is actually more unfair that totalitarian communism and I think I agree with his reasoning.  In communism, everyone has the right to work, in socialism the government gets to decide who doesn't have the right to work.  Think about that.  We are in a country where summer camps were denied government funding if they wouldn't sign a contract that violated tenants of their faith.  Can you imagine a universal basic income under such a system.  Believe what you're told or you don't eat.  That's the ideology of the Liberal Party of Canada.
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« Reply #399 on: October 18, 2020, 10:21:49 PM »
*Sigh* Ok, Jhkim. I'm being idiotically hyperbolic?

I think you are being mind-numbingly literalististic and pedantic.

From my perspective--as someone that enjoys a very broad range of firearms freedoms--being restricted to .38 revolvers, 12-guage shotguns, and bolt-action, 30.06 hunting rifles--while yes, being more than a pellet gun--is still tragic, sad, and pathetic as a testimony of gun ownership and defined freedom, in comparison.

OK, sorry about calling you "idiotic". But I'm tired of the extreme hyperbole in today's politics -- like Pundit's claiming all leftists are "ideological suicide bombers" and how they'll turn the U.S. into the killing fields of Cambodia. It's matched, of course, by leftist claims of how the right wing are fascists who will turn things into Nazi Germany. It particularly bugs me as we move into election time.

As I stated, Canada has more civilian guns per capita than any First World country other than the U.S. So I feel like the hyperbole is deceptive. There are many countries where firearms are far severely restricted -- like the UK, Japan, South Korea, or nearly any other First World country.

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #400 on: October 19, 2020, 03:59:12 AM »
Cambodia didn't start out as a mass murder nightmare.
That's the socialism endgame. Not the starting point.

When America falls (not if, when), it's not going to be on a socialists first day in office. We didn't get to where we are in 2020 overnight. This is 50 years of the rats gnawing at the pillars of our nation.

However, the balls start rolling faster over time. Socialist victory begets socialist victory and each step marches toward greater control, greater orthodoxy and greater punishment for those who disobey in thought or deed. 

Canada is playing footsies with socialism while importing Muslim extremists, so the death race is on to see whether the USA or the Canucks commit suicide first, oops, I mean become a progressive paradise of social justice...

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #401 on: October 19, 2020, 05:35:16 AM »
I am Canadian what is wrong with Canada. It's not perfect no country is.
Oh, come on, my f.riend! Ummm..as I've been told by a good number of your fellow Canadians--they have testified that Canada has become a socialist, globalist tyrannical nanny state that firmly supports open borders, mass immigration by foreigners that aren't compatible with Canadian traditions and culture--and seek to change Canada drastically--then there is the academic tyranny of forcing anyone and everyone to embrace an SJW, Globalist agenda--with dissenters persecuted, fired, and in some cases fined and put in prison; religious persecution against Christians--Christian preachers that preach and teach the Bible are harassed, fined, and arrested for "Hate Speech"--and of course, the uber-tyrannical Gun Control Laws that forbid Canadians from owning weapons essentially beyond a pellet gun.

That all sounds a whole lot like a Socialist, Globalist, SJW, Marxist shithole, wouldn't you agree, my friend?

That is not in any way equivalent to being Cuba or Venezuela, or the killing fields of Cambodia. There is no flood of refugees out from Canada. They have a higher life expectancy than the U.S., as well as a lower poverty rate and a lower suicide rate. I disapprove of Canada's free speech restrictions, but making out to be Cuba or Venezuela is nonsensical.

Also, some of this is false. Canada has a growing number of restrictions in recent years - most recently the assault weapon ban, but they still have some 4 million gun owners owning 20 million or so guns - mostly rifles and shotguns. They are second only to the U.S. in gun ownership within the First World. (#7 among all countries, behind the Falkland Islands, Yemen, and Serbia.)

https://thegunblog.ca/facts-stats/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

Greetings!

Jhkim, you just contradicted yourself. Having "Assault weapons bans" is tyrannical gun control and tyranny--so it isn't "False". Fucking Liberal Morons define "Assault weapons" as anything beyond a pellet gun. SEMI AUTOMATCIC RIFLES ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Assault Rifles--as defined by the Nazis, who invented the first assault rifle in 1944, the Sturmgeveyr 44--defined as a rifle with a selector switch capable of semi auto fire--that's 1 shot per trigger pull--multi-round burst capability, and full auto weapons fire.

End of story.

Assault Weapons or Assault Rifles are no easier or less expensive to get here in America than they are in Canada. Genuine assault weapons are extremely difficult to purchase; they are very expensive; and you have to go through extensive background checks, licensing, fees, and other federal bureaucratic processes to obtain an assault rifle.

In America, for example, most of the few people that legally own assault weapons are very wealthy; specially licensed collectors; elite Hollywood producer/movie types, specially licensed firearms dealers and gunsmiths; or special, highly trained, elite mercenaries and professional security.

Canada has gun control laws that are more tyrannical than the BS laws in the state of California.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
I, for one, am totally unsuprised to see that SHARK draws his definitions from the Nazis. For this issue, and likely a whole lot more.

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« Reply #402 on: October 19, 2020, 06:07:03 AM »
I am Canadian what is wrong with Canada. It's not perfect no country is.
Oh, come on, my f.riend! Ummm..as I've been told by a good number of your fellow Canadians--they have testified that Canada has become a socialist, globalist tyrannical nanny state that firmly supports open borders, mass immigration by foreigners that aren't compatible with Canadian traditions and culture--and seek to change Canada drastically--then there is the academic tyranny of forcing anyone and everyone to embrace an SJW, Globalist agenda--with dissenters persecuted, fired, and in some cases fined and put in prison; religious persecution against Christians--Christian preachers that preach and teach the Bible are harassed, fined, and arrested for "Hate Speech"--and of course, the uber-tyrannical Gun Control Laws that forbid Canadians from owning weapons essentially beyond a pellet gun.

That all sounds a whole lot like a Socialist, Globalist, SJW, Marxist shithole, wouldn't you agree, my friend?

That is not in any way equivalent to being Cuba or Venezuela, or the killing fields of Cambodia. There is no flood of refugees out from Canada. They have a higher life expectancy than the U.S., as well as a lower poverty rate and a lower suicide rate. I disapprove of Canada's free speech restrictions, but making out to be Cuba or Venezuela is nonsensical.

Also, some of this is false. Canada has a growing number of restrictions in recent years - most recently the assault weapon ban, but they still have some 4 million gun owners owning 20 million or so guns - mostly rifles and shotguns. They are second only to the U.S. in gun ownership within the First World. (#7 among all countries, behind the Falkland Islands, Yemen, and Serbia.)

https://thegunblog.ca/facts-stats/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

Greetings!

Jhkim, you just contradicted yourself. Having "Assault weapons bans" is tyrannical gun control and tyranny--so it isn't "False". Fucking Liberal Morons define "Assault weapons" as anything beyond a pellet gun. SEMI AUTOMATCIC RIFLES ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Assault Rifles--as defined by the Nazis, who invented the first assault rifle in 1944, the Sturmgeveyr 44--defined as a rifle with a selector switch capable of semi auto fire--that's 1 shot per trigger pull--multi-round burst capability, and full auto weapons fire.

End of story.

Assault Weapons or Assault Rifles are no easier or less expensive to get here in America than they are in Canada. Genuine assault weapons are extremely difficult to purchase; they are very expensive; and you have to go through extensive background checks, licensing, fees, and other federal bureaucratic processes to obtain an assault rifle.

In America, for example, most of the few people that legally own assault weapons are very wealthy; specially licensed collectors; elite Hollywood producer/movie types, specially licensed firearms dealers and gunsmiths; or special, highly trained, elite mercenaries and professional security.

Canada has gun control laws that are more tyrannical than the BS laws in the state of California.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
I, for one, am totally unsuprised to see that SHARK draws his definitions from the Nazis. For this issue, and likely a whole lot more.

Greetings!

My "definition" is based on the HISTORICAL FACTS. The Germans invented the world's first true *Assault Rifle*. Just like the Germans developed the first Ballistic Missile (The V2 Ballistic Missile), the first Cruise Missile (The V1 Cruise Missile), and the first operational Jet fighter, (The ME 262).

Anti-gun, cum-guzzling SJW's do not get to define what an "Assault Weapon" is simply because REEE! It looks EVIL!

I know though, SJW's are all about the emotions, and never like to let FACTS and HISTORICAL TRUTH get in the way of their ideology or policies.

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #403 on: October 19, 2020, 08:37:17 AM »
I'm gonna buy a new gun this week, just to piss some people off :D


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« Reply #404 on: October 19, 2020, 09:29:54 AM »
Personally I want the capability to make guns and ammunition rather than purchasing guns.  Three d printed firearms have come a long way and can even be used in a process that creates a rifled barrel in your kitchen sink using reverse electroplating.  But I'd rather have a decent little machine shop.  Sten guns are very simple and get the job done.

Ammunition's harder, I suppose you could go black powder, probably not the best in a fully automatic weapon as they're dirtier.
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