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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #375 on: October 04, 2020, 07:08:40 AM »
To follow up the Asian Gawain we now have a black King Arthur.

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« Reply #376 on: October 04, 2020, 12:38:16 PM »
To follow up the Asian Gawain we now have a black King Arthur.

https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/features/devon-terrell/age/

Greetings!

Geesus. You know, if these morons love *black* culture so much, why don't they create books and films about fucking black African culture, history, and mythology? They somehow must always fuck up anything that is from Western Civilization and white European with crying about how we need to get more Asians, more blacks, more Muslims somehow into fucking everything. Lets just strip out all main characters from European history and mythology and "reimagine" them as being black or Asian!

These people that seek to "reimagine" everything are fucking retarded morons.

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« Reply #377 on: October 04, 2020, 03:40:02 PM »
To follow up the Asian Gawain we now have a black King Arthur.

https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/features/devon-terrell/age/

Greetings!

Geesus. You know, if these morons love *black* culture so much, why don't they create books and films about fucking black African culture, history, and mythology? They somehow must always fuck up anything that is from Western Civilization and white European with crying about how we need to get more Asians, more blacks, more Muslims somehow into fucking everything. Lets just strip out all main characters from European history and mythology and "reimagine" them as being black or Asian!

These people that seek to "reimagine" everything are fucking retarded morons.

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Try remaking Shaka Zulu with a bunch of white guys and see what happens (as it should)

Or Shaft starring Bruce Willis (as I teased my co-worker of color with).
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« Reply #378 on: October 04, 2020, 04:36:40 PM »
To follow up the Asian Gawain we now have a black King Arthur.

https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/features/devon-terrell/age/

Greetings!

Geesus. You know, if these morons love *black* culture so much, why don't they create books and films about fucking black African culture, history, and mythology? They somehow must always fuck up anything that is from Western Civilization and white European with crying about how we need to get more Asians, more blacks, more Muslims somehow into fucking everything. Lets just strip out all main characters from European history and mythology and "reimagine" them as being black or Asian!

These people that seek to "reimagine" everything are fucking retarded morons.

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Try remaking Shaka Zulu with a bunch of white guys and see what happens (as it should)

Or Shaft starring Bruce Willis (as I teased my co-worker of color with).

Greetings!

Excellent points, my friend! I liked Shaka Zulu very much, as well as Shaft, too. Black African stories or other cultures like Asian or whatever are fine. I like them distinct, and often historical as well, which are my favourite genre. I don't mind modern stories or film with mixed casts, what have you. That's all good, as appropriate. It's the particular unhistorical and corruption of whatever European and white mythology and so on with crazy ahistorical additions and "reimaginings" that drive me fucking nuts, you know? It's not just ahistorical, inaccurate--but it also feels deeply insulting, you know? It's very offensive to me, in a number of ways. I could scream at these modern-day barbarians that just want to shit on European or white history and mythology, the traditions and legacy of Western Civilization. OUR ancestors, OUR people, OUR mythology. Not fucking black Africans, or Asians, or South American tribes, or whoever. It seems so disrespectful to me.

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« Reply #379 on: October 04, 2020, 05:36:20 PM »
It's not just ahistorical, inaccurate--but it also feels deeply insulting, you know? It's very offensive to me, in a number of ways.

That's the whole point!

Demoralize & Destroy.
Indoctrinate white children, especially males, to hate themselves.
Indoctrinate Latinos to know nothing about their Spanish heritage and spit upon Western civilization even though that's the backbone of their modern history.
Indoctrinate the rest to believe "whites have no culture".
And kids are gobbling this bullshit up at school and through the media.

I'm sure there won't be any negative effects long term.

Even if Trump win re-election, even if there's a mythical "Red Wave" across the country, nothing stands in the way of the Marxist indoctrination of children via schools and screens.

At absolute best, America will be living on a few years of borrowed time.

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Re: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« Reply #380 on: October 05, 2020, 12:03:05 AM »
To follow up the Asian Gawain we now have a black King Arthur.

https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/features/devon-terrell/age/

Meh, I think true maturity is realizing that Lucius Tiberius and Mordred were the real good guys of the Arthurian Legend. But that's just me.
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« Reply #381 on: October 13, 2020, 07:29:16 PM »
It's not just ahistorical, inaccurate--but it also feels deeply insulting, you know? It's very offensive to me, in a number of ways.

That's the whole point!

Demoralize & Destroy.
Indoctrinate white children, especially males, to hate themselves.
Indoctrinate Latinos to know nothing about their Spanish heritage and spit upon Western civilization even though that's the backbone of their modern history.
Indoctrinate the rest to believe "whites have no culture".
And kids are gobbling this bullshit up at school and through the media.

I'm sure there won't be any negative effects long term.

Even if Trump win re-election, even if there's a mythical "Red Wave" across the country, nothing stands in the way of the Marxist indoctrination of children via schools and screens.

At absolute best, America will be living on a few years of borrowed time.

I'm not sure whether America is, but Republican democracy in America certainly is, because of a massive failure of decades to stop the takeover of the institutions by what amounts to Communist Ideological Suicide Bombers.

If they aren't stopped, pretty soon the United States will become, AT BEST, a copy of Venezuela or Cuba. At worst, Cambodia during Pol Pot's Killing fields.

But, and here's the bad part, at this point its so far too late that if they ARE stopped, it won't be by democratic means. So if you "win" at stopping the left in America now, you'll have some kind of right-wing authoritarian government.  Those types of government don't usually want to return to democracy (and even if they did, the authoritarian means of stopping the cancer would be a project that would require decades to complete, so by then, no one will believe in the Republic anymore).

The only way I can see that might save the USA is to cut off, literally kick out of the union and leave to their own devices, the most toxic regions (which will mainly be some of the largest Democrat-run cities), and then engage in serious systemic reforms of the rest (fire every single teacher and replace the entire education system with something totally new, purge the entire deep state, fire most bureaucrats, make internet companies accountable, stop public funding of media, arts, or social education programs of any kind, and restore full and equal Rule of Law). But I doubt that could even be done, much less that anyone would have the guts to do it.  If the USA completely fractures and balkanizes, then you could end up with a north-korea/south-korea style scenario, where the part(s) that consisted of red states would retain or even strengthen democratic principles, while the blue state parts would quickly devolve into mass murdering communism people would risk machine gun fire to escape from.
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« Reply #382 on: October 13, 2020, 10:13:27 PM »
I'm not sure whether America is, but Republican democracy in America certainly is, because of a massive failure of decades to stop the takeover of the institutions by what amounts to Communist Ideological Suicide Bombers.

If Trump wins, we have a few years left (at least 2, at most 8 ), but you're right. GenZ are more brainwashed versions of Millennials and between the two generations, there's nothing stopping the 2028 demographics giving the leftists enough votes to make  conservatives the nullified minority party.

If Trump loses and Republicans lose the Senate (which the MSM tells us is nigh-guaranteed next month), the Democrats will pack the Supreme Court, undo every "conservative" law, and make DC and/or PR into states so the electoral college can't be used against them.

Unfortunately, it appears that many Americans view voting for Biden or not voting as their path back to "normalcy" after the MSM screaming Orange Man Bad at them every night. Of course, the MSM is silent on JoJo's dementia and the DNC's obvious plans to descend us into communism so it appears that many, or most, Americans are completely clueless to the axe coming for our heads.

I say "it appears" because the Silent Majority is silent and who knows how much of the fake news is fake vs. just biased vs. real? I am also wondering what the Telemundo polls really means in voter reality regarding the Latino voters when 67% said Trump won his debate and 74% said Pence won his debate.

Of course, anyone who believes Burn Loot Murder and AntiFart are going to be happy with Harris/Biden are quite wrong. Revolutionaries don't care about elections, except hoping the weaker one wins so the revolution can break them.

AOC already promised that Biden will be pulled to the far left, so its not a secret what their plan is going to be. Somehow I don't see the Harris/Biden administration standing up to the mob.


If they aren't stopped, pretty soon the United States will become, AT BEST, a copy of Venezuela or Cuba. At worst, Cambodia during Pol Pot's Killing fields.

The Democrat elite and RINO globalists envision the USA becoming China. Total control of citizen's lives, but plenty of cash flying around keeping the rich happy.

The leftists on the ground definitely want Cuba, but with lots of more free stuff and a lot less work. The Democrats are so sure they can control the violent mobs AND silence the patriot militias.

The 60M Americans with 300M guns and 20B rounds will keep the USA from becoming Cambodia overall, but that's probably the fate of Blue areas once the economy collapses.

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« Reply #383 on: October 13, 2020, 10:51:50 PM »
But I doubt that could even be done, much less that anyone would have the guts to do it.

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Many white conservatives think I'm crazy when I say that 3rd+ generation Latinos are going to save America. I never heard of Latinos for Trump in 2016, but in 2020 they are far more visible.

If the USA completely fractures and balkanizes, then you could end up with a north-korea/south-korea style scenario...

We had thread on USA Balkanization and I'd love to have you refresh the thread and hear your thoughts more on that subject - especially based on your political history experience.

I started the thread seeking ideas on peaceful red/blue separation, but the consensus was (a) too many blue cities in red states, and (b) there will be blood.



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« Reply #384 on: October 14, 2020, 01:34:39 PM »
I am also wondering what the Telemundo polls really means in voter reality regarding the Latino voters when 67% said Trump won his debate and 74% said Pence won his debate.
One of the weirdest things about the current politics is the continued affiliation of black and latino voters with the blue tribe. There was a poll recently that looked at Democratic voters, and basically said they all look alike across most demographic groups -- except for black voters, who are far more conservative and traditional, and agree with the rest of the party on almost nothing.

Blacks have been a weird fit for the Democratic party since the 1920s, when the blacks shifted en masse from the Republican party, who gave them freedom and supported their political activity (all pre-New Deal black elected officials were Republican), and defected to the party of the KKK and institutionalized racism in return for the promise of some scraps. Which they apparently really needed, because they jumped despite all the policies FDR put in place that excluded blacks from most of the New Deal.

Same is true with latinos, who tend to be macho, catholic, and believe in traditional families and gender roles. They're both natural fits with the red tribe, and not even the libertarian wing of the red tribe -- they're much closer to traditional conservatives. The recent hyper-focus of the blue tribe on gender, intersectionalism, abortion, and all the things they hate and want to have nothing to do with must be causing some strains or fractures, but I haven't seen much sign of it in the news. Even the black shift toward Trump has been tiny, so far.  The question is whether they'll keep on holding on, and only slowly bleed voters to the red tribe, or whether it will become a torrent.
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« Reply #385 on: October 16, 2020, 01:40:00 AM »
Economic self-interest beats culture, so long as culture is allowed to remain apart.  The left isn't forcing culture modification in exchange for economic benefits.  If/when that happens will be after power is entrenched and it's change or starve.
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« Reply #386 on: October 16, 2020, 02:22:33 AM »
It's not just ahistorical, inaccurate--but it also feels deeply insulting, you know? It's very offensive to me, in a number of ways.

That's the whole point!

Demoralize & Destroy.
Indoctrinate white children, especially males, to hate themselves.
Indoctrinate Latinos to know nothing about their Spanish heritage and spit upon Western civilization even though that's the backbone of their modern history.
Indoctrinate the rest to believe "whites have no culture".
And kids are gobbling this bullshit up at school and through the media.

I'm sure there won't be any negative effects long term.

Even if Trump win re-election, even if there's a mythical "Red Wave" across the country, nothing stands in the way of the Marxist indoctrination of children via schools and screens.

At absolute best, America will be living on a few years of borrowed time.

I'm not sure whether America is, but Republican democracy in America certainly is, because of a massive failure of decades to stop the takeover of the institutions by what amounts to Communist Ideological Suicide Bombers.

If they aren't stopped, pretty soon the United States will become, AT BEST, a copy of Venezuela or Cuba. At worst, Cambodia during Pol Pot's Killing fields.

But, and here's the bad part, at this point its so far too late that if they ARE stopped, it won't be by democratic means. So if you "win" at stopping the left in America now, you'll have some kind of right-wing authoritarian government.  Those types of government don't usually want to return to democracy (and even if they did, the authoritarian means of stopping the cancer would be a project that would require decades to complete, so by then, no one will believe in the Republic anymore).

The only way I can see that might save the USA is to cut off, literally kick out of the union and leave to their own devices, the most toxic regions (which will mainly be some of the largest Democrat-run cities), and then engage in serious systemic reforms of the rest (fire every single teacher and replace the entire education system with something totally new, purge the entire deep state, fire most bureaucrats, make internet companies accountable, stop public funding of media, arts, or social education programs of any kind, and restore full and equal Rule of Law). But I doubt that could even be done, much less that anyone would have the guts to do it.  If the USA completely fractures and balkanizes, then you could end up with a north-korea/south-korea style scenario, where the part(s) that consisted of red states would retain or even strengthen democratic principles, while the blue state parts would quickly devolve into mass murdering communism people would risk machine gun fire to escape from.
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« Reply #387 on: October 18, 2020, 09:51:43 AM »
If they aren't stopped, pretty soon the United States will become, AT BEST, a copy of Venezuela or Cuba. At worst, Cambodia during Pol Pot's Killing fields.

Or even worse still, Canada.
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« Reply #388 on: October 18, 2020, 11:27:07 AM »
I am Canadian what is wrong with Canada. It's not perfect no country is.

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« Reply #389 on: October 18, 2020, 04:44:21 PM »
I am Canadian what is wrong with Canada. It's not perfect no country is.

Greetings!

Oh, come on, my f.riend! Ummm..as I've been told by a good number of your fellow Canadians--they have testified that Canada has become a socialist, globalist tyrannical nanny state that firmly supports open borders, mass immigration by foreigners that aren't compatible with Canadian traditions and culture--and seek to change Canada drastically--then there is the academic tyranny of forcing anyone and everyone to embrace an SJW, Globalist agenda--with dissenters persecuted, fired, and in some cases fined and put in prison; religious persecution against Christians--Christian preachers that preach and teach the Bible are harassed, fined, and arrested for "Hate Speech"--and of course, the uber-tyrannical Gun Control Laws that forbid Canadians from owning weapons essentially beyond a pellet gun.

That all sounds a whole lot like a Socialist, Globalist, SJW, Marxist shithole, wouldn't you agree, my friend?

Hmmm...it seems like here in the States we are rapidly trying to be just like Canada, with the same kind of program! ;D

Fuck. ;D

I hope Canada can regain their freedom and protect their glorious and fine heritage! Canada used to be a bastion of freedom, democracy, nice, neat, civilized, and a great icon of the ancient British Empire. :D

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