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Author Topic: Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game  (Read 7978 times)

Shrieking Banshee

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Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
« on: March 16, 2020, 12:33:09 PM »
This is something that's been bugging me immensely ever since I feel there has been any amount of pushback to SJWs.
I hear so much stuff like:
'Well I liked diversity before but SJWs don't have true diversity! See how white they all actually are?"
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"Well my product has plenty of women and gays and whatever: I'm not sexist! SJW accusations are completely unfounded!"

Well, stop doing it. Stop playing a game that only benefits your foes. Diversity is a neutral trait and not a virtue.
I find people often wondering how SJWs still retain and gain so much ground despite how when they have to maintain their own space it always implodes, and in practice, they promote weakness and victimhood. You're being bullied by nerds in wheelchairs.

That's because the SJWs biggest advantage is a battlefield that was prepared well in advance. SJW principles are so drilled into people's heads that even when they try to fight back against it they still use them subconsciously. Decades of pop culture, and academia (either through malice or lazy negligence), as well as some academic elite, have promoted the following values so hard that people still can't shake them off:
1: Diversity in it of itself is a virtue. It is not. Its a neutral value. It can be good or bad.
2: That it's always other people's responsibility to be empathetic to you and you have no responsibility to protect yourself.
3: The world is inherently fair and only nasty people make it unfair.
4: There are a bunch of others but the top 3 are the biggest ones.

Because they can't shake off those false premises SJWs always have a backend into your head. You can't play at their game or beat them at their game because the game is not designed to make sense. It never made sense and was always going to drive to this place of madness without examination or pushback. Its not crazy "Now" after having made sense. It was always crazy it was just quieter about it.
You can't expose SJWs for being hypocritical because the entire system to its core is hypocritical. By playing into it you're still keeping it maintained even as 'Opposition'. Somebody who doesn't play the game at all is much more dangerous than somebody who is within it.

Allot of the reason why people have trouble shaking this off is SJW language control. One of the core SJW principles is mixing in their own principles with existing language and then claiming that their version is the only one that exists. That's how stuff like Racism or Sexism or Diversity have been co-opted over the years. Thats how history and entertainment and education have all been perverted.

So don't play the game. If you want to make stories or have groups of people with non-standard characters that can be OK or good or great. But it can also suck or be terrible. Its a descriptor like "Romantic" or "Dramatic". But it's not a descriptor like "Fantastic" or "Clever".

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2020, 03:16:17 AM »
I'm unclear on your solution to the SJW problem.

What does "so don't play the game" mean in terms of actual actions for dealing with the SJW plague on our hobby?

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2020, 10:20:19 AM »
Quote from: Spinachcat;1124429
I'm unclear on your solution to the SJW problem.

What does "so don't play the game" mean in terms of actual actions for dealing with the SJW plague on our hobby?

"You're a racist!" Damn right I am. They usually have no response to someone who just agrees with them about their "bad behavior". It's actually kind of funny. And then just tell them to fuck off.

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2020, 10:24:04 AM »
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I'm unclear on your solution to the SJW problem.

What does "so don't play the game" mean in terms of actual actions for dealing with the SJW plague on our hobby?

The solution would require undermining their base cultural underpinnings. You cant trip them up with being hypocrites, or racists or sexists. Don't hold that against them or try to be better at it then them. Because the entire framework of their morality has always been crazy and hypocritical and designed mainly to amass them power.

SJWs will loose when the culture at large rejects their moral principles. And you start with that by rejecting them yourself.

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2020, 12:51:45 PM »
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The solution would require undermining their base cultural underpinnings. You cant trip them up with being hypocrites, or racists or sexists. Don't hold that against them or try to be better at it then them. Because the entire framework of their morality has always been crazy and hypocritical and designed mainly to amass them power.

SJWs will loose when the culture at large rejects their moral principles. And you start with that by rejecting them yourself.


This guy gets it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2020, 01:07:51 PM »
To put in gaming terms: don't play by their rules. Complaining that they are rigging the rules does no good, because they know that they rigged the rules. When you complain about it, they gain satisfaction from your distress.

Play by your own rules. Reject theirs without explanation or excuse, and exclude them. They do not belong; never let them claim otherwise.

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2020, 02:13:27 PM »
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To put in gaming terms: don't play by their rules. Complaining that they are rigging the rules does no good, because they know that they rigged the rules. When you complain about it, they gain satisfaction from your distress.

Play by your own rules. Reject theirs without explanation or excuse, and exclude them. They do not belong; never let them claim otherwise.

Bingo. Most don't even know they rigged the rules. So many are just so used to them it's cognitive dissonance making it work for them.

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2020, 02:17:09 PM »
Left hand liver, right hand chin.  Problem solved.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2020, 10:25:06 PM »
While me stepping back from the hobby to chase after Knights & Legends: Dawn of a New Age had nothing to do with SJWs, I can gladly say I don't miss their toxic culture. They're too fucking noisy, bunch of losers with nothing to show for. What's really upsetting is that very few people got the balls to tell them to go fuck themselves.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2020, 10:45:52 PM »
Quote from: RandyB;1124455
To put in gaming terms: don't play by their rules. Complaining that they are rigging the rules does no good, because they know that they rigged the rules. When you complain about it, they gain satisfaction from your distress.

Play by your own rules. Reject theirs without explanation or excuse, and exclude them. They do not belong; never let them claim otherwise.

YES!

This motherfucker right here really gets it.

It's time we embraced the edge and took back the hobby.

HIPSTER PUNKS FUCK OFF!
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2020, 10:51:51 PM »
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It's time we embraced the edge and took back the hobby.

HIPSTER PUNKS FUCK OFF!
Punk was also a product that largely led to SJW-ism. Directionless anger and rage that when it burnt itself out created a vacuum that SJWs filled.

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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2020, 02:23:09 AM »
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Punk was also a product that largely led to SJW-ism. Directionless anger and rage that when it burnt itself out created a vacuum that SJWs filled.


Agreed. SJW morality directly spawned from the cesspit that is the punk subculture and we need to actively reject and rebuke it at every turn.

Punk was a grave mistake and we are better off without it. Metal Forever! Punk Never!

In a perfect world, the 1970's would have ended with Punk dying and Disco surviving.

I think we need to right the wrongs of "Disco Demolition Night" and have ourselves a "Punk Demolition Night" instead.

Anime and Metal rule! Capeshit and Punk suck!
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2020, 07:14:50 AM »
So I see you've really embraced your carpet chewing side sammy.  (Just to be clear I don't mean oral sex, I mean the actual carpet on the floor.  I'm saying you have rabies or an advanced case of syphilis.)

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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2020, 08:38:07 AM »
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In a perfect world, the 1970's would have ended with Punk dying and Disco surviving.

You were doing okay, and then you suggested Disco surviving.

Wat.

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2020, 01:34:33 PM »
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You were doing okay, and then you suggested Disco surviving.

Wat.

Disco is better than Punk and does not deserve the hate it gets...

Classic Rock and Metal are best though (I mean real classic rock, not that alternative rock garbage)
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