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Author Topic: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian  (Read 1197 times)

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2021, 07:14:03 PM »
Frankly, Disney seems to be going out of their way to piss off anyone who's to the political right of Mao.

The worst you can say about Carano's tweet was that it was hyperbolic. It was hardly offensive. But the woketards have been after her ever since she refused to play the pronoun game.

I don't follow Carano's tweets and have no opinion on her as a person. About Disney as a whole -- I agree that Disney has been leaning more to the left recently, but I don't believe in the slightest that it's genuine caring about the principle. Disney is a huge, long-standing corporation, and has proven to be a well-oiled machine to profit by manipulation. Somewhere in the company, it was determined that there was more profit in firing her than in keeping her.

In general, I find it dumb how people much attention people put into what celebrity actors say off the set. But, given that the public does pay attention and an actor's tweets can affect ticket sales, then the corporation is going to hire or fire based in part on Internet reputation.

Just for my own reference, I looked up what she said.

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Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…. even by children.

Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?

Regardless of whether it's offensive, this is simply wrong. The Nazi government didn't create anti-semitism in Germany. It used the existing anti-semitism as an excuse to justify taking power. I also think it's stupid to use the horrendous actions of the Nazi political party to say that one shouldn't hate people for their political views.

  They miscalculated badly on that one.   Gina has a ton of thristy male fans who are also star wars fans who actually buy the product Disney is selling, as opposed to the very concerned people who are angry with her for not putting her pronouns in her twitter bio.  I would say the Nazis got away with their egregious actions against the Jews because not only was Germany anti semitic, seems the whole world was, so a whole bunch of shoulders got shrugged.  Leftists in germany did a whole lot to help get a rile going, and as jewish people seemed to have aligned largely with the left there and were the very vocal and very aggressive enemies of hitler; he decided they were is enemies in Jail, and one thing Hitler was good at, was crossing enemies off of a list.  But he had to do lots and lots of propaganda to get people to go along with "work camps" and train rides.  It does look a bit like diversity training where white people get a chance to learn how to "be less white" and I could see how a person could draw a vague parallel.   It is vague though.  Jews were a tiny minority, and the rabid leftists with the weird anti white vibe they are pushing might get a chance to find out their "enemies" are not in fact a tiny minority.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2021, 04:13:03 AM »
A sample of the woke harassment Giana Carano endured when she wouldn't bend the knee.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2021, 06:50:42 AM »
A sample of the woke harassment Giana Carano endured when she wouldn't bend the knee.



I wish I could get that level of hatred on Twitter for merely posting a fairly innocuous opinion.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2021, 10:59:27 AM »
Creatively it seems pretty clear to me that Filoni was the heir.  Lucas might have meant Kennedy to handle the business side of things to keep him free to be creative.  However, toss Kennedy into the also woke Disney and suddenly her stupid politics are being green lit -- especially given that Filoni hasn't done anything bigger than Clone Wars at the point Kennedy is producing the Sequel Trilogy.

If they're smart, and Favreau is willing to do it, just turn the whole thing over to Favreau and Filoni.  Filoni can apprentice under one of the better pop culture director/producers and get the missing pieces.  In the meantime Favreau does for Star Wars what he did for Marvel.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2021, 11:04:11 AM »
A sample of the woke harassment Giana Carano endured when she wouldn't bend the knee.



"Bitch" seems to be the word of the day. But what the hell is up with "oompa loompa"? Was she in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2021, 11:36:33 AM »
A sample of the woke harassment Giana Carano endured when she wouldn't bend the knee.



"Bitch" seems to be the word of the day. But what the hell is up with "oompa loompa"? Was she in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

No, it's just another way of calling her "fat" (which she isn't - I think Ms. Carano is very hot.;) ). Another example of woketard hypocrisy, the same folks that promote "body confidence", "morbid obesity is beautiful", and "all bodies are beautiful" are resorting to "body-shaming" against a conservative, strong, independent and beautiful woman.
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2021, 11:38:09 AM »
Double post. Sorry.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2021, 11:55:46 AM »
No, it's just another way of calling her "fat" (which she isn't - I think Ms. Carano is very hot.;) ). Another example of woketard hypocrisy, the same folks that promote "body confidence", "morbid obesity is beautiful", and "all bodies are beautiful" are resorting to "body-shaming" against a conservative, strong, independent and beautiful woman.

Imagine calling an off-season athlete fat...while you probably can't even do one curl unless it's a doughnut to your face. I mean, yeah, she probably needs to drop 15 pounds, but I still wouldn't want to fight her.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2021, 01:25:50 PM »
Twitter trolls suck. I think that's pretty self-evident.

Regarding Kathleen Kennedy,

Creatively it seems pretty clear to me that Filoni was the heir.  Lucas might have meant Kennedy to handle the business side of things to keep him free to be creative.  However, toss Kennedy into the also woke Disney and suddenly her stupid politics are being green lit -- especially given that Filoni hasn't done anything bigger than Clone Wars at the point Kennedy is producing the Sequel Trilogy.

If they're smart, and Favreau is willing to do it, just turn the whole thing over to Favreau and Filoni.  Filoni can apprentice under one of the better pop culture director/producers and get the missing pieces.  In the meantime Favreau does for Star Wars what he did for Marvel.

Personally, I didn't care for either the prequel trilogy or the sequel trilogy. After the original trilogy, my favorite Star Wars material so far has been Rogue One and The Mandalorian -- both of which were produced under Kennedy. That's not a great hit rate -- but it's a better hit rate compared to the period before Kennedy from 1984 to 2012, when there was nothing produced for Star Wars that I liked.

Financially, it seems to me that she has been overseeing a big increase in production and profits for the franchise. Compared to the period of 1984 to 2012, it seems like there has been a major step up in production of mostly-profitable new Star Wars films as well as television series and other material. While Feige had greater success with the MCU - that was unprecedented. Prior to the MCU, Feige produced the Daredevil, Elektra, the Hulk, and the Fantastic Four movies - which were both critical and financial failures. Lots of other popular franchises have had much less financial success than Star Wars over the last decade.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2021, 02:03:47 PM »
Twitter trolls suck. I think that's pretty self-evident.

Regarding Kathleen Kennedy,

Creatively it seems pretty clear to me that Filoni was the heir.  Lucas might have meant Kennedy to handle the business side of things to keep him free to be creative.  However, toss Kennedy into the also woke Disney and suddenly her stupid politics are being green lit -- especially given that Filoni hasn't done anything bigger than Clone Wars at the point Kennedy is producing the Sequel Trilogy.

If they're smart, and Favreau is willing to do it, just turn the whole thing over to Favreau and Filoni.  Filoni can apprentice under one of the better pop culture director/producers and get the missing pieces.  In the meantime Favreau does for Star Wars what he did for Marvel.

Personally, I didn't care for either the prequel trilogy or the sequel trilogy. After the original trilogy, my favorite Star Wars material so far has been Rogue One and The Mandalorian -- both of which were produced under Kennedy. That's not a great hit rate -- but it's a better hit rate compared to the period before Kennedy from 1984 to 2012, when there was nothing produced for Star Wars that I liked.

I liked Solo and Rogue One well enough. I did not like the sequel trilogy to the point where I have not and do not plan to watch Rise of Skywalker.
The Prequels have been beaten to death, ressurected and beaten down some more. Suffice to say, I liked the idea of the prequels, but the execution was not so hot.

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Financially, it seems to me that she has been overseeing a big increase in production and profits for the franchise. Compared to the period of 1984 to 2012, it seems like there has been a major step up in production of mostly-profitable new Star Wars films as well as television series and other material. While Feige had greater success with the MCU - that was unprecedented. Prior to the MCU, Feige produced the Daredevil, Elektra, the Hulk, and the Fantastic Four movies - which were both critical and financial failures. Lots of other popular franchises have had much less financial success than Star Wars over the last decade.

The Michael Bay Transformers series was wildly profitable. I thought they stunk to high heaven and stopped watching them at #3. And the only reason I slogged through to 3 is because I'm a rabid Transformers fan and hoped beyond hope that the series would stop sucking. (I really liked Bumblebee, but the bar was so low by then anything was better than Bayformers nonsense)

I think the success of The Mandalorian was owed in large part to Jon Favreau, and Disney/Lucasfilm/Kennedy are in the process of shooting themselves in the foot over it's success.
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2021, 02:39:57 PM »
KK, despite being credited as executive producer on The Mandalorian had absolutely nothing to do with the show.

Favreau and Filoni have complete creative control and answer directly to Disney's CEO Bob Iger (just like Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios are no longer part of Marvel Entertainment since 2015 - Feige answered directly to Alan Horn, head of Disney Studios and not to Marvel Entertainment's CEO Ike Perlmutter). They don't answer to her and don't give a shit about her woketard "story group" (including resident soy-boy Pablo Hidalgo).

This is why they brought back and redeemed "you-know-who" at the end of Mando's season 2.

Also, Rogue One was good despite KK. Almost 40% of the movie needed to be completely redone and reshot. Tony Gilroy was brought in to direct the reshoots and rework entire aspects of the film. The reshoots delayed the film completion from February, 2016 to November, 2016.

And don't forget she is directly responsible for all the ensuing mess: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller fired mid-production of "Solo"; "Ruin" Johnson disregarding Jar Jar Abrams' original storyline and having carte blanche to do whatever shit he wanted to; Colin Trevorrow giving up directing and writing Episode IX in frustration because he strongly disagreed with all the shit "Ruin" Johnson pulled out from his ass (after Carrie Fisher passed away, Trevorrow insisted in using Luke instead of Leia, but KK said "no"); hiring with all fanfare - and then firing - Dumb & Dumber (David Benioff & D.B. Weiss). The list goes on and on.
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2021, 10:39:36 PM »
Mandalorian is a GREAT show, and nothing like the new movies. If you let this get in the way of enjoying the show, you're just hurting yourself.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2021, 12:42:14 AM »
Mandalorian is a GREAT show, and nothing like the new movies. If you let this get in the way of enjoying the show, you're just hurting yourself.

For however long it lasts. I expect it will either be woke-ified or Kennedy will sabotage it. Not that there's much difference between the two.
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2021, 09:38:45 AM »
I’m neither a fan or a hater of the character Gina played in the Madalorian, but it seems mighty sexist to fire her for overwrought comparisons to the Holocaust when Pedro Pascal also made overwrought comparisons to the Holocaust.

However, despite not being a follower of Gina I doubt I’ll keep Disney+ around, as it’s almost guaranteed that the Mandolorian is now going to be managed through a partisan/hyper-ideological political lense. Star Wars for me will only be the original trilogy, Rogue One and the first two seasons of the Mandalorian. Sometimes you have to realize that an IP has for all practical purposes “run out of gas”, and continued patronage just encourages the owners of the IP to continue to churn out trash. I’ve done the same with Star Trek (couldn’t make it past mid-season of Discovery, foolishly gave Picard a chance and thoroughly disappointed with the season 1 ending), and the butchery Disney is considering with a Firefly reboot (Inara going to be some kind of instructor/social worker instead of a courtier) convinces me that it’s better to realize early on when an IP has soured and move on to something else. Marvel Universe overall (some movies were always going to be not great, I’m talking about the whole setting) is probably reaching a similar point. I think the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie is the only one I’m looking forward to, and they’ll probably fire Chris Pratt before too long.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2021, 11:24:48 AM »
I’m neither a fan or a hater of the character Gina played in the Madalorian, but it seems mighty sexist to fire her for overwrought comparisons to the Holocaust when Pedro Pascal also made overwrought comparisons to the Holocaust.

However, despite not being a follower of Gina I doubt I’ll keep Disney+ around, as it’s almost guaranteed that the Mandolorian is now going to be managed through a partisan/hyper-ideological political lense. Star Wars for me will only be the original trilogy, Rogue One and the first two seasons of the Mandalorian. Sometimes you have to realize that an IP has for all practical purposes “run out of gas”, and continued patronage just encourages the owners of the IP to continue to churn out trash. I’ve done the same with Star Trek (couldn’t make it past mid-season of Discovery, foolishly gave Picard a chance and thoroughly disappointed with the season 1 ending), and the butchery Disney is considering with a Firefly reboot (Inara going to be some kind of instructor/social worker instead of a courtier) convinces me that it’s better to realize early on when an IP has soured and move on to something else. Marvel Universe overall (some movies were always going to be not great, I’m talking about the whole setting) is probably reaching a similar point. I think the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie is the only one I’m looking forward to, and they’ll probably fire Chris Pratt before too long.
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