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Author Topic: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian  (Read 1173 times)

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Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« on: February 10, 2021, 11:33:41 PM »
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https://io9.gizmodo.com/gina-carano-is-no-longer-a-part-of-star-wars-1846244896?rev=1613010609026&fbclid=IwAR3-WTy7QwCXecNsyKkxILdcS8lf8XJXI-f_wM3wdtrUOieEUE74sJbNU28

They are douchebags anyway. They fired my friend Keith Barrett back in 2013-2014 and tried to force him to train his replacements some Indian dudes Disney had hired in using H1-B Visas. I have had a private boycott going on since then, now they are kowtowing to the politically correct left. Nothing good will come of that, and Star Wars is well and truly screwed now too as well. Cie la Vie.
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 07:40:52 AM »
Unfortunately not a surprise considering her wrongthink.  I made the mistake of seeing the first MarySue jedi movie.  The SJW garbage just makes it easier not to choose their brand.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2021, 08:13:22 AM »
Frankly, Disney seems to be going out of their way to piss off anyone who's to the political right of Mao.

The worst you can say about Carano's tweet was that it was hyperbolic. It was hardly offensive. But the woketards have been after her ever since she refused to play the pronoun game.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2021, 08:47:28 AM »
Though it actually looks like this is turning in her favor. Got a new film, backed by, of all people. Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire. Finally the worm is starting to turn on the woke....
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2021, 03:16:35 PM »
Frankly, Disney seems to be going out of their way to piss off anyone who's to the political right of Mao.

The worst you can say about Carano's tweet was that it was hyperbolic. It was hardly offensive. But the woketards have been after her ever since she refused to play the pronoun game.

I don't follow Carano's tweets and have no opinion on her as a person. About Disney as a whole -- I agree that Disney has been leaning more to the left recently, but I don't believe in the slightest that it's genuine caring about the principle. Disney is a huge, long-standing corporation, and has proven to be a well-oiled machine to profit by manipulation. Somewhere in the company, it was determined that there was more profit in firing her than in keeping her.

In general, I find it dumb how people much attention people put into what celebrity actors say off the set. But, given that the public does pay attention and an actor's tweets can affect ticket sales, then the corporation is going to hire or fire based in part on Internet reputation.

Just for my own reference, I looked up what she said.

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Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…. even by children.

Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?

Regardless of whether it's offensive, this is simply wrong. The Nazi government didn't create anti-semitism in Germany. It used the existing anti-semitism as an excuse to justify taking power. I also think it's stupid to use the horrendous actions of the Nazi political party to say that one shouldn't hate people for their political views.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2021, 04:55:53 PM »
Frankly, Disney seems to be going out of their way to piss off anyone who's to the political right of Mao.

The worst you can say about Carano's tweet was that it was hyperbolic. It was hardly offensive. But the woketards have been after her ever since she refused to play the pronoun game.

I don't follow Carano's tweets and have no opinion on her as a person. About Disney as a whole -- I agree that Disney has been leaning more to the left recently, but I don't believe in the slightest that it's genuine caring about the principle. Disney is a huge, long-standing corporation, and has proven to be a well-oiled machine to profit by manipulation. Somewhere in the company, it was determined that there was more profit in firing her than in keeping her.

In general, I find it dumb how people much attention people put into what celebrity actors say off the set. But, given that the public does pay attention and an actor's tweets can affect ticket sales, then the corporation is going to hire or fire based in part on Internet reputation.

Just for my own reference, I looked up what she said.

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Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…. even by children.

Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?

Regardless of whether it's offensive,

The point is the "offensiveness" was the justification for her firing. This is not a small detail.

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this is simply wrong. The Nazi government didn't create anti-semitism in Germany. It used the existing anti-semitism as an excuse to justify taking power.

She didn't say the Nazi government created anti-semitism. The Nazis used an enourmous propoganda program to convince people that Jews were an existential threat. They convinced people that anti-semitism was justified.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-propaganda

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I also think it's stupid to use the horrendous actions of the Nazi political party to say that one shouldn't hate people for their political views.

I think it's hypocritical that Pedro Pascal used Holocaust imagery, that remains on twitter, and Disney has yet to comment.

https://twitter.com/PedroPascal1/status/1009572721548595201

(the bonus stupidity is that the second picture is of Palestinian children, not America at all.)

But I don't agree that it's stupid. Everyone is capable of horrendous actions in reaction to a threat narrative. Putting Nazi germany and the Holocaust up on a historical pedestal prevents us from learning from it.



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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2021, 06:00:01 PM »
Fuck Disney.

May Jupiter, Juno, Mercury and Mars bless Gina Carano and subtly guide her in the good fight against the forces of despotism and moralism.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2021, 03:02:53 PM »
I'm pretty sure that George Lucas is thinking to himself... "Was it all worth it? What have I done?"

(But, then again, he's 4.05 billion dollars richer, so he may not give it a damn... lol!)

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2021, 03:15:03 PM »
I'm pretty sure that George Lucas is thinking to himself... "Was it all worth it? What have I done?"

(But, then again, he's 4.05 billion dollars richer, so he may not give it a damn... lol!)
 
  I dont know how much artistic pain he feels.  I do think he is probably scratching his head as to why the same company that was SO CAREFUL with marvel and its movies, let a lady take charge of Star wars who seems to not know how to do jack shit beyond get Stephen Spielberg coffee and promote here social justice bullshit.   Its a very, very, very expensive mistake for disney.  I guess the old saying too much easy success is part of the problem for people in long term success.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2021, 03:51:37 PM »
I'm pretty sure that George Lucas is thinking to himself... "Was it all worth it? What have I done?"

(But, then again, he's 4.05 billion dollars richer, so he may not give it a damn... lol!)
 
  I dont know how much artistic pain he feels.  I do think he is probably scratching his head as to why the same company that was SO CAREFUL with marvel and its movies, let a lady take charge of Star wars who seems to not know how to do jack shit beyond get Stephen Spielberg coffee and promote here social justice bullshit.   Its a very, very, very expensive mistake for disney.  I guess the old saying too much easy success is part of the problem for people in long term success.

Didn't Lucas pick Kennedy to run the franchise after the sale?
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2021, 04:01:10 PM »
I'm pretty sure that George Lucas is thinking to himself... "Was it all worth it? What have I done?"

(But, then again, he's 4.05 billion dollars richer, so he may not give it a damn... lol!)
 
  I dont know how much artistic pain he feels.  I do think he is probably scratching his head as to why the same company that was SO CAREFUL with marvel and its movies, let a lady take charge of Star wars who seems to not know how to do jack shit beyond get Stephen Spielberg coffee and promote here social justice bullshit.   Its a very, very, very expensive mistake for disney.  I guess the old saying too much easy success is part of the problem for people in long term success.

IIRC, Lucas picked Kennedy as his successor before he sold to Disney. She came with the package.

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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2021, 04:05:03 PM »
I'm pretty sure that George Lucas is thinking to himself... "Was it all worth it? What have I done?"

(But, then again, he's 4.05 billion dollars richer, so he may not give it a damn... lol!)
 
  I dont know how much artistic pain he feels.  I do think he is probably scratching his head as to why the same company that was SO CAREFUL with marvel and its movies, let a lady take charge of Star wars who seems to not know how to do jack shit beyond get Stephen Spielberg coffee and promote here social justice bullshit.   Its a very, very, very expensive mistake for disney.  I guess the old saying too much easy success is part of the problem for people in long term success.

If rumors are to be believed, and given his presence on the setting of the Mandalorian (and the reverence given by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni to him) I believe he is disappointed, to say the least.

The strangest thing is that before selling Lucasfilm to Disney in October, 2012 he had made KK co-chair of Lucasfilm. That's why she was promoted to president after Disney bought the company. Now, why on Earth he chose her as his co-chair I guess we'll never know, since it's very obvious she is one of me most incompetent and hated persons in Hollywood today.

Marvel Studios, however, is a different kind of animal thanks to Kevin Feige's expertise and competence as Chief Creative Officer of Marvel Studios. And it's very clear that KK is no Feige. Quite the contrary.


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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2021, 04:12:01 PM »
I'm pretty sure that George Lucas is thinking to himself... "Was it all worth it? What have I done?"

(But, then again, he's 4.05 billion dollars richer, so he may not give it a damn... lol!)
 
  I dont know how much artistic pain he feels.  I do think he is probably scratching his head as to why the same company that was SO CAREFUL with marvel and its movies, let a lady take charge of Star wars who seems to not know how to do jack shit beyond get Stephen Spielberg coffee and promote here social justice bullshit.   Its a very, very, very expensive mistake for disney.  I guess the old saying too much easy success is part of the problem for people in long term success.

If rumors are to be believed, and given his presence on the setting of the Mandalorian (and the reverence given by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni to him) I believe he is disappointed, to say the least.

The strangest thing is that before selling Lucasfilm to Disney in October, 2012 he had made KK co-chair of Lucasfilm. That's why she was promoted to president after Disney bought the company. Now, why on Earth he chose her as his co-chair I guess we'll never know, since it's very obvious she is one of me most incompetent and hated persons in Hollywood today.

Marvel Studios, however, is a different kind of animal thanks to Kevin Feige's expertise and competence as Chief Creative Officer of Marvel Studios. And it's very clear that KK is no Feige. Quite the contrary.

To make a guess, from what I've seen in interviews and articles, KK is competent enough to keep around, sign papers, hire actors, that kinda work, but putting in charge of Lucasfilm was way out of her capabilities. Plus she seems to be... let's put this nicely, not a very creative person. More of a middle manager type. Which is fine. Companies need middle managers.
Why Lucas chose her? I suspect he was tired of the fan backlash over the prequels, and just wanted out. KK was there, set up and ready to move into the spot, so he chose the first warm body, and not out of any creative merit.

Like a lot of middle management mentality, she wanted to justify her job and value, and so she latched onto the progressive "social justice" garbage. "The Force is Female" instead of actually telling good stories with the property, she's "empowering minorites" and other such bullshit.
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Re: Disney goes full sjw and fires Gina Carano from the Mandalorian
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2021, 06:57:23 PM »
I'm pretty sure that George Lucas is thinking to himself... "Was it all worth it? What have I done?"

(But, then again, he's 4.05 billion dollars richer, so he may not give it a damn... lol!)
 
  I dont know how much artistic pain he feels.  I do think he is probably scratching his head as to why the same company that was SO CAREFUL with marvel and its movies, let a lady take charge of Star wars who seems to not know how to do jack shit beyond get Stephen Spielberg coffee and promote here social justice bullshit.   Its a very, very, very expensive mistake for disney.  I guess the old saying too much easy success is part of the problem for people in long term success.

If rumors are to be believed, and given his presence on the setting of the Mandalorian (and the reverence given by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni to him) I believe he is disappointed, to say the least.

The strangest thing is that before selling Lucasfilm to Disney in October, 2012 he had made KK co-chair of Lucasfilm. That's why she was promoted to president after Disney bought the company. Now, why on Earth he chose her as his co-chair I guess we'll never know, since it's very obvious she is one of me most incompetent and hated persons in Hollywood today.

Marvel Studios, however, is a different kind of animal thanks to Kevin Feige's expertise and competence as Chief Creative Officer of Marvel Studios. And it's very clear that KK is no Feige. Quite the contrary.

To make a guess, from what I've seen in interviews and articles, KK is competent enough to keep around, sign papers, hire actors, that kinda work, but putting in charge of Lucasfilm was way out of her capabilities. Plus she seems to be... let's put this nicely, not a very creative person. More of a middle manager type. Which is fine. Companies need middle managers.
Why Lucas chose her? I suspect he was tired of the fan backlash over the prequels, and just wanted out. KK was there, set up and ready to move into the spot, so he chose the first warm body, and not out of any creative merit.

Like a lot of middle management mentality, she wanted to justify her job and value, and so she latched onto the progressive "social justice" garbage. "The Force is Female" instead of actually telling good stories with the property, she's "empowering minorites" and other such bullshit.
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 I guess she was good at fetching Lucas coffee as well.  Whether he picked her or not, its on Disney for keeping her there after she clearly demonstrated incompetence.