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Democrat Lies About January 6 are Shattered by Tucker Carlson

Started by SHARK, March 11, 2023, 06:25:02 PM

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SHARK

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 04, 2023, 11:25:41 PM
Are you suggesting that Fox News is a "Christian company"?

Ben Shapiro (of the daily wire) is a Jew, so is Ezra Levant (of Rebel News). Are those "Jewish companies" that you think this woman would be 'happy' in and where she wouldn't have been offended?

Greetings!

Well, obviously Fox News celebrates Christmas. Whatever the owners religion is--they seem to like Christmas Tree displays.

Ben Shapiro is great. He is also Orthodox, and very conservative. The Abby woman, besides being Jewish, also seems to be very Liberal. So, she wouldn't be "happy" likely working for any kind of conservative company, regardless of their religion. That's why she also seems--based on the video, and relevant complaint claims she has made against Fox News--that she is also Liberal and Feminist.

I'd imagine Ben Shapiro at the Daily Wire would fire this Abby woman very quickly, and probably for the same kinds of reasons that Fox News fired her.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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So, thinking this through here... maybe it's not about her being Jewish at all, and about her being an American establishment neo-liberal?
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Quote from: RPGPundit on May 04, 2023, 11:43:00 PM
So, thinking this through here... maybe it's not about her being Jewish at all, and about her being an American establishment neo-liberal?

Greetings!

We, sure. Though she is the person--according to the facts--claims that Fox News created an "Anti-Semitic" environment. Most Jews in America are Liberal Democrats, going by what the political and voting analysis are. Hence why I suggested she would be happier at a Liberal, Feminist, Jewish company. She claims that Fox News is "Anti-Semitic." So, presumably, having a Jewish identity is very important for her. I wouldn't think most Conservative Jews are offended by Christmas Tree displays--but in so many of these kinds of complaints, Liberal Jews are the people offended by Christmas Tree displays--not Conservative Jews.

I think anyone making complaints about Christmas Tree displays, claiming that such is "Anti-Semitic" seems pretty stupid and petty, wouldn't you agree? Her claims that Fox News is "Anti-Semitic" sounds ridiculous to me, because they had a Christmas Tree display.

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Yes, leftists claim the Right is anti-semitic. Including Leftist American Jews who have zero support for Israel. That doesn't mean that her Jewishness is the fundamental problem, or that there are "Jewish companies" out there (at least, not in control of media, which is what your statement tried to suggest).
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Looking this up, the employee's name is Abby Grossberg. Most of her lawsuit is about sexism and retaliation. Allegedly, when she complained about demeaning comments towards her to higher up, she was immediately sent to meetings about her supposedly poor performance from the boss she had complained about (McCaskill). The anti-Semitic comments are roughly one page in the 102-page filing.

Her Christmas tree complaint wasn't that trees were placed, but that a smaller Christmas tree placed by her desk had a sign hung on it that read "Hanukkah Bush". That seems mocking. She also alleges about Israeli coworker Eldad Yaron:

QuoteAs the year came to an end, Ms. Grossberg bought each of her team members a gift to thank them for their diligent work. In turn, Mr. Yaron bought a babka (a historically Jewish sweet bread) for the office. When Mr. McCaskill learned that there was babka in the office, he began to loudly and obnoxiously demand that the TCT booking team have "the bread made by the Jews." Thereafter, anytime Mr. Yaron purchased his lunch from the Jewish bakery known as Breads Bakery, Mr. McCaskill loudly proclaimed to the TCT booking team that Mr. Yaron went to the "Jew bakery," and that he had gone "to see his people."

I don't know whether these are true or not, but I think we should at least be clear about what is claimed.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: GamerSince77 on May 04, 2023, 02:46:38 PM
Enrique Tarrio, Ethan Nordean, Joe Biggs, and Zachary Rehl have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct the certification of the 2020 election, actual obstruction of the certification, conspiracy to prevent officers from performing their duties, obstruction of law enforcement during civil disorder and aiding and abetting in destruction of government property.

So much for Tucker's attempt to whitewash J6.
A conviction with one of the thinnest, scrawniest definitions of 'conspiracy' to ever be conjured up by a prosecutor. Heavily reliant on 'wink wink nudge nudge say no more'.

But, as everyone knows, if you put on a BLM hat and try to burn down a federal building, it's just 'fiery but mostly peaceful'.

Although I will say, if these four were fed assets, they got screwed. Which is why I suspect they were not. Oh, I expect their org was littered with glowies, but those guys? Probably gone in a puff of dust at this point.

Brad

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 05, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
A conviction with one of the thinnest, scrawniest definitions of 'conspiracy' to ever be conjured up by a prosecutor. Heavily reliant on 'wink wink nudge nudge say no more'.

But, as everyone knows, if you put on a BLM hat and try to burn down a federal building, it's just 'fiery but mostly peaceful'.

Although I will say, if these four were fed assets, they got screwed. Which is why I suspect they were not. Oh, I expect their org was littered with glowies, but those guys? Probably gone in a puff of dust at this point.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-proudboys-leader-exclusive/exclusive-proud-boys-leader-was-prolific-informer-for-law-enforcement-idUSKBN29W1PE

He was literally an FBI asset. Dude is getting convicted because he's a convenient "useful idiot"; MAGA hat = obvious insurgent.
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SHARK

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 05, 2023, 05:46:41 AM
Yes, leftists claim the Right is anti-semitic. Including Leftist American Jews who have zero support for Israel. That doesn't mean that her Jewishness is the fundamental problem, or that there are "Jewish companies" out there (at least, not in control of media, which is what your statement tried to suggest).

Greetings!

Well, it is good that my commentary not be misinterpreted.

Semper Fidelis,

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Quote from: Brad on May 05, 2023, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 05, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
A conviction with one of the thinnest, scrawniest definitions of 'conspiracy' to ever be conjured up by a prosecutor. Heavily reliant on 'wink wink nudge nudge say no more'.

But, as everyone knows, if you put on a BLM hat and try to burn down a federal building, it's just 'fiery but mostly peaceful'.

Although I will say, if these four were fed assets, they got screwed. Which is why I suspect they were not. Oh, I expect their org was littered with glowies, but those guys? Probably gone in a puff of dust at this point.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-proudboys-leader-exclusive/exclusive-proud-boys-leader-was-prolific-informer-for-law-enforcement-idUSKBN29W1PE

He was literally an FBI asset. Dude is getting convicted because he's a convenient "useful idiot"; MAGA hat = obvious insurgent.
Then his repayment is darkly hilarious. Although I have heard that his status as an informant was completely disconnected to his Proud Boys activities (which seems borne out by the article you linked).

Now, if Ray Epps gets hooked up, it'll be interesting. Unlikely though.

Mistwell

Quote from: oggsmash on May 04, 2023, 05:31:31 AM
    What tucker said was racist....or something he decided from pattern recognition?   We can pretend everyone handles problems exactly the same way if we want to, or we can make observations about how things happen in the real world.  I guess reality is very racist.

When white people attack someone, they are not more or less prone to do it in a group of like-minded people than non-white people. That's "reality" as you put it. Any study of history will inform you of that.

Mistwell

Quote from: SHARK on May 04, 2023, 08:59:48 AM


Oh, and Abby Greenburg, or whatever her fucking name is, is a former producer on Fox News, and was fired. She of course is sobbing about sexism, anti-semitism, and crying like the bitch she is. Such a stupid, feminist cunt like her should never have sought employment from Fox News. Instead, she should have gone to work for some Liberal, Feminist, Jewish company where she could circle-jerk herself with other mousy, feminist cunts. She was crying about Christmas Tree displays in various meeting rooms at work. Suck it, bitch. Swallow it down, or go get in the bread line. No one cares that you are fucking offended by Christianity. You don't like it, get fucked. Fox News was right on their decisions to fire this feminist moron.

What exactly is a "Jewish company" Shark? [Edit - Sorry had not seen Pundit had posted almost those same words earlier and gotten a reply. No reason to repeat yourself and I appreciate the clarification.]

Grognard GM

Quote from: Mistwell on May 05, 2023, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on May 04, 2023, 05:31:31 AM
    What tucker said was racist....or something he decided from pattern recognition?   We can pretend everyone handles problems exactly the same way if we want to, or we can make observations about how things happen in the real world.  I guess reality is very racist.

When white people attack someone, they are not more or less prone to do it in a group of like-minded people than non-white people. That's "reality" as you put it. Any study of history will inform you of that.

What does propensity have to do with possible pattern recognition?

In roleplaying terms, a PC afraid of Gnomes because they don't like short people, is different to a PC who is afraid of Gnolls because they constantly raid and kill.
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Quote from: Grognard GM on May 05, 2023, 09:56:06 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on May 05, 2023, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on May 04, 2023, 05:31:31 AM
    What tucker said was racist....or something he decided from pattern recognition?   We can pretend everyone handles problems exactly the same way if we want to, or we can make observations about how things happen in the real world.  I guess reality is very racist.

When white people attack someone, they are not more or less prone to do it in a group of like-minded people than non-white people. That's "reality" as you put it. Any study of history will inform you of that.

What does propensity have to do with possible pattern recognition?

In roleplaying terms, a PC afraid of Gnomes because they don't like short people, is different to a PC who is afraid of Gnolls because they constantly raid and kill.

He's a lifelong reporter. To claim his observations of life have taught him that white people don't attack in groups but people of color do is to claim it's an objectively true thing, because as a reporter he's seeing way more incidents of violence than most people.

White people don't attack people in groups any more or less than non-white people. There is zero evidence to back up the claim non-white people attack others in groups more than white people, and his life observations - which are reported incidents of violence in our nation in general given he is a reporter - do not support that claim.

He's saying it because he thinks attacking people in a group is dishonorable, and he thinks white people are morally superior to non-white people and therefore whites wouldn't and/or shouldn't behave in such an unfair way. And I think any fool can see that.

I mean, WTF do people think happened with lynchings? Our history is full of mobs of white men who slaughtered outnumbered Black people. White people are not more "honorable" about how they attack other people when they're attacking other people, and this was obviously a private admission he thinks white people are more honorable than black people because of his overall views of race.

Elfdart

Quote from: Brad on May 05, 2023, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 05, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
A conviction with one of the thinnest, scrawniest definitions of 'conspiracy' to ever be conjured up by a prosecutor. Heavily reliant on 'wink wink nudge nudge say no more'.

But, as everyone knows, if you put on a BLM hat and try to burn down a federal building, it's just 'fiery but mostly peaceful'.

Although I will say, if these four were fed assets, they got screwed. Which is why I suspect they were not. Oh, I expect their org was littered with glowies, but those guys? Probably gone in a puff of dust at this point.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-proudboys-leader-exclusive/exclusive-proud-boys-leader-was-prolific-informer-for-law-enforcement-idUSKBN29W1PE

He was literally an FBI asset. Dude is getting convicted because he's a convenient "useful idiot"; MAGA hat = obvious insurgent.

He was an informant in drug cases. In other words, his side job as a snitch had nothing to do with his role in the Jan 6 putsch. By the way here's a quote from the article you linked to:

QuoteThe Proud Boys were involved in the deadly insurrection at the Capitol January 6.

Since you cited this article, does this mean you finally admit that it was an attempted coup? Or are you just being a dishonest sack of shit as usual?
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Elfdart

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 05, 2023, 05:46:41 AM
Yes, leftists claim the Right is anti-semitic. Including Leftist American Jews who have zero support for Israel. That doesn't mean that her Jewishness is the fundamental problem, or that there are "Jewish companies" out there (at least, not in control of media, which is what your statement tried to suggest).

What does support for Israel have to do with anti-Semitism or being Jewish?
Jesus Fucking Christ, is this guy honestly that goddamned stupid? He can\'t understand the plot of a Star Wars film? We\'re not talking about "Rashomon" here, for fuck\'s sake. The plot is as linear as they come. If anything, the film tries too hard to fill in all the gaps. This guy must be a flaming retard.  --Mike Wong on Red Letter Moron\'s review of The Phantom Menace