Democrat Lies About January 6 are Shattered by Tucker Carlson

[SHARK]

Precisely my point. Watching Tucker the Turncoat will accomplish nothing. The American sheeple stopped caring about the truth long ago. Thinking that watching TV = actually making a difference is pure slacktivism 101.

It's amazing how some nerds make a big deal about "not giving money to people who hate you", yet they will happily gobble Tucker "I hate Trump passionately" Carlson's jizz. How about a little consistency here? Carlson is entrenched establishment media. He is not a friend to J6ers, or MAGA. Unbelievable that he is getting a pass on his recently uncovered duplicity.

Tucker isn't the relevant part of this story, you fluff-brained twaddlepeddler. He's just the vehicle to get footage out. I would have preferred if they just dumped it all into a public server somewhere and tweeted out a link to it, like ringing an old-timey dinner bell, but we're working with what we have.

Greetings!

*LAUGHING* That was funny, Bruwulf!

Good observation, too. I had thought that was obvious, Tucker serving as the vehicle. People are taking about *The Tapes* and what they reveal of the government's lies and corruption--not really focused on Tucker Carlson at all.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Bruwulf]

And that's really the rotten core of a moldy, shriveled apple right there.

It doesn't matter if you think Chansley should be in prison, it doesn't matter if you think he is Saint Theresa reborn. It doesn't matter if you think January 6 was a festival and love and brotherhood, or if you think our democracy nearly died that day.

The issue is, the establishment - both parties, or at least a chunk of them - don't think you should be allowed to see the footage. Why? And before you answer that, keep in mind, there is no possible good answer to that. Every possible answer is worse than every other answer, just for different reasons. Not that there are many possible answers anyways, but all of the are very bad.

If the government doesn't want the public to see something that it's trying it's citizens with as evidence, well, that's probably bad, m'kay? And we saw politicians - very prominent ones - standing up and saying tucker should be silenced. Not being subtle about it - explicitly calling for his network to stop him from doing it. Left-aligned talking assholes in the media have upped that to calling for his arrest. And what footage they have let us see? Well, we've already learned they "enhanced" and curated it.

And yet mysteriously, as soon as Tucker starts showing these files that are apparently too dangerous for the public to see, there's evidence to try to turn people against him. Funny, that. Convenient timing, innit?

Oh, but please. Do go on. Tell me how I'm the one falling for a narrative.

*edit* Oh fuck posting on a phone.

[jhkim]

It doesn't matter if you think Chansley should be in prison, it doesn't matter if you think he is Saint Theresa reborn. It doesn't matter if you think January 6 was a festival and love and brotherhood, or if you think our democracy nearly died that day.

The issue is, the establishment - both parties, or at least a chunk of them - don't think you should be allowed to see the footage. Why? And before you answer that, keep in mind, there is no possible good answer to that. Every possible answer is worse than every other answer, just for different reasons. Not that there are many possible answers anyways, but all of the are very bad.

Yeah. It's clear that the news and the Jan 6th committee presented footage edited to show only the most violent incidents, while Carlson edited to show the most peaceful moments. Both sides are trying to control the narrative through edited versions. The truth is clearly somewhere in between, and is not a single narrative.

I think the labels of "insurrection" or even worse "failed coup" are stupid. Some protesters intended to force change of Congress, but they were unarmed using only improvised weapons at most, like fire extinguishers or flagpoles. There were clear falsehoods from the anti-Trump side like the death of officer Sicknick. On the other hand, there are also clear truths from the that side, like the actual footage of officer Fanone being dragged out and beaten.

[Brad]

The truth is clearly somewhere in between, and is not a single narrative.

Riding that fence is the surest way to get a first class ticket on the train to the internment camp, comrade. 100% serious.

[Kiero]

There are real people who use the word "insurrection" for the impromtu tour of the Capitol, instigated by the cops?

I thought that was just the shills in the scummedia.

[Bruwulf]

There are real people who use the word "insurrection" for the impromtu tour of the Capitol, instigated by the cops?

I thought that was just the shills in the scummedia.

Even some of my RL friends who are nominally conservative buy into that narrative. The media has made them ashamed to be conservatives.

[Ratman_tf]

Your side are insurrectionists. My side are freedom fighters.

[Thorn Drumheller]

There are real people who use the word "insurrection" for the impromtu tour of the Capitol, instigated by the cops?

I thought that was just the shills in the scummedia.

So this brings up a point I've honestly been thinking about. I agree that the word "insurrection" as used by the left media is stupid. But what then was Jan. 6? Was it simply a tour? Do you believe there were "insurrectionist" elements that instigated it?

For me personally, I was disheartened to see it happen. But I also understand the deep divide and boiling emotions that are in the US. As a US citizen I see what's happening in France and go, what are they so hissy about? So a few more years of working, big deal. But I realize that's just my fatalism having lived in Murica my entire life and the things that are commonplace here LOL.

So if not an insurrection then what was it? Were those involved criminal? I believe so. For a society that believes, supposedly, in law and order, we were far from that on Jan. 6. IDK, dudes.

[Kiero]

So this brings up a point I've honestly been thinking about. I agree that the word "insurrection" as used by the left media is stupid. But what then was Jan. 6? Was it simply a tour? Do you believe there were "insurrectionist" elements that instigated it?

For me personally, I was disheartened to see it happen. But I also understand the deep divide and boiling emotions that are in the US. As a US citizen I see what's happening in France and go, what are they so hissy about? So a few more years of working, big deal. But I realize that's just my fatalism having lived in Murica my entire life and the things that are commonplace here LOL.

So if not an insurrection then what was it? Were those involved criminal? I believe so. For a society that believes, supposedly, in law and order, we were far from that on Jan. 6. IDK, dudes.

The cops let them in; forced them into the building in some instances. Then most of them really did just walk around and take some pictures, like tourists.

It was instigated by swampy sorts, plenty of evidence of plain-clothes Feds around the place. All to discredit Trump and demoralise ordinary Americans.

No it wasn't an insurrection or anything like it. Compare and contrast with the "mostly peaceful protestst" instigated by BLM and Antifa across the summer with mass rioting, arson and several murders.

[Ratman_tf]

There are real people who use the word "insurrection" for the impromtu tour of the Capitol, instigated by the cops?

I thought that was just the shills in the scummedia.

So this brings up a point I've honestly been thinking about. I agree that the word "insurrection" as used by the left media is stupid. But what then was Jan. 6? Was it simply a tour? Do you believe there were "insurrectionist" elements that instigated it?

For me personally, I was disheartened to see it happen. But I also understand the deep divide and boiling emotions that are in the US. As a US citizen I see what's happening in France and go, what are they so hissy about? So a few more years of working, big deal. But I realize that's just my fatalism having lived in Murica my entire life and the things that are commonplace here LOL.

So if not an insurrection then what was it? Were those involved criminal? I believe so. For a society that believes, supposedly, in law and order, we were far from that on Jan. 6. IDK, dudes.

Sure, there has been lots of criminal activity done at the Capitol all though American history.
What were the "insurrectionists" going to accomplish? Make the government pinky swear to make Trump dictator for life? Anything they "accomplished" would be completely ignored after they left. They'd have to institute themselves as the new government. That would have been an insurrection.
It was a march on the Capitol, and lots of crazy shit happened. It's hard to slap a simple, one word label on it. Most of the protests were peaceful, some were rioting, and some were actually invited into the Capitol and escorted around.

I think the goal in their response was to create confusion about what really happened, so the media could spin events as they found most useful for their political ends.

[Bruwulf]

So if not an insurrection then what was it?

At worst, a riot.

By the media's own standards, a "mostly peaceful protest". Compared to literally any of the riots that burned cities down for months prior, what happened on January 6 was trivial.

Were those involved criminal? I believe so.

But what were they guilty of? You aren't just generically "guilty". You have to be guilty of something. So what is there, here? Some relatively minor property damage and trespassing, at worst? And most of them not even that. Some of them got out of hand, yes, but the majority did not.

For a society that believes, supposedly, in law and order, we were far from that on Jan. 6. IDK, dudes.

Oh, spare me. I'm not happy with the vandalism either, but, again. Perspective. Businesses burned down? None. Stores looted? None. Civilians savagely beaten? None. Cars overturned and set on fire? None. Christ, in Europe they get more rowdy over fricking soccer games than January 6 was.

Should it have happened different? Yes. Should we have held drumhead trials and given people harsh sentences to make a political statement? No. If Chansley had gotten a few thousand dollars fine and 6 months in jail with credit for time served, people would probably not be so upset.

[Chris24601]

Oh, spare me. I'm not happy with the vandalism either, but, again. Perspective. Businesses burned down? None. Stores looted? None. Civilians savagely beaten? None. Cars overturned and set on fire? None. Christ, in Europe they get more rowdy over fricking soccer games than January 6 was.

There were a bunch of civilians beaten, including at least one beaten to death, and an unarmed woman was shot in the head.

By the police.

All so the deep state could shut down any questioning of the fraudulent election (the bombs that never went off were the backup plan for if the embedded Feds couldn't get any of the J6 protestors to enter the building).

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/12/the-parliamentary-motive-behind-the-j6-fedsurrection/

[Spinachcat]

Hopefully the side that loves guns (and knows how to use them) won't absent-mindedly forget their boomsticks at home when they commit their next insurrection.

That was a terrible oversight.

So many of today's problems wouldn't exist if they had simply remembered their guns before leaving for DC.

[Bruwulf]

Hopefully the side that loves guns (and knows how to use them) won't absent-mindedly forget their boomsticks at home when they commit their next insurrection.

That was a terrible oversight.

So many of today's problems wouldn't exist if they had simply remembered their guns before leaving for DC.

A lot of people would be dead, no positive change would have happened, and the Republican party would be finished for fifty years.

You can't go halfway on that. You either go all in on revolution, or you hang as traitors.

[Jam The MF]

Now Fox News and Tucker Carlson, are parting ways......

Hmm......