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Shasarak:

--- Quote from: jhkim on December 02, 2021, 02:35:06 PM ---I'm going by right-wing sources for the George Floyd riots, like these from Real Clear Investigations and The Federalist, which reported 20+ and 30 deaths, respectively.

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20 to 30 deaths is just a quiet weekend in Chicago.

Reckall:
The decline in crime in the last few decades, at least in the US, is tied to Roe vs. Wade. Of course no one will ever touch that.

oggsmash:

--- Quote from: Reckall on December 02, 2021, 05:03:51 PM ---The decline in crime in the last few decades, at least in the US, is tied to Roe vs. Wade. Of course no one will ever touch that.

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  I dont think there is any reach to say the same people most willing to dispose of their kids are also the most likely to raise criminals.  I just doubt any politicians would use that as a reason to keep abortion legal safe and *rare*.

Pat:

--- Quote from: jhkim on December 02, 2021, 02:35:06 PM ---It seems like you're saying the crime data is believable too, though, so in that we agree. In the other thread, my main argument was with SHARK - who said that the crime statistics were bullshit because he knew from looking at the news that crime was much higher than in the 1990s.

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You should go look at who else was posting in that thread, and what they were saying.

Pat:

--- Quote from: Reckall on December 02, 2021, 05:03:51 PM ---The decline in crime in the last few decades, at least in the US, is tied to Roe vs. Wade. Of course no one will ever touch that.

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According to the Freakonomics crew, yes. But while it's an interesting hypothesis, it's just a hypothesis. Nobody's really sure. Others claim it's due to the rise of broken window policing, which I'm skeptical about.

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