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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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Zelen


Mistwell

Quote from: Kiero on April 26, 2022, 07:12:04 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 22, 2022, 09:32:10 PM
You just claimed a massive worldwide conspiracy at the top of your post concerning oil prices (a hilarious one where you claimed most of the worlds governments agreed on a topic - which in itself is an obvious nutcase position because most of the worlds governments cannot agree on even the simplest of things much less that type of topic), only to deny you're posting about conspiracies at the bottom.

You've claimed Covid was a massive worldwide conspiracy as well.

For a supposed lawyer, you really don't appear to understand the definition of common words. If it's done openly, it's not a "conspiracy".

The response to covid, a relatively minor seasonal infection, was most definitely orchestrated to increase government power. If you still truly believe there was a global pandemic, a health emergency that necessitated any of this, then you're even more stupid than you appear.

I'd love to know how you explain the World Health Organisation's push for an international treaty that would give it the power to override the elected governments of every signatory nation in the event of a "pandemic", and secondly what the fuck that has to do with the World Economic Forum, who are very publicly partnering the WHO on the matter?

Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: Kiero on April 26, 2022, 07:12:04 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 22, 2022, 09:32:10 PM
You just claimed a massive worldwide conspiracy at the top of your post concerning oil prices (a hilarious one where you claimed most of the worlds governments agreed on a topic - which in itself is an obvious nutcase position because most of the worlds governments cannot agree on even the simplest of things much less that type of topic), only to deny you're posting about conspiracies at the bottom.

You've claimed Covid was a massive worldwide conspiracy as well.

For a supposed lawyer, you really don't appear to understand the definition of common words. If it's done openly, it's not a "conspiracy".

The response to covid, a relatively minor seasonal infection, was most definitely orchestrated to increase government power. If you still truly believe there was a global pandemic, a health emergency that necessitated any of this, then you're even more stupid than you appear.

I'd love to know how you explain the World Health Organisation's push for an international treaty that would give it the power to override the elected governments of every signatory nation in the event of a "pandemic", and secondly what the fuck that has to do with the World Economic Forum, who are very publicly partnering the WHO on the matter?

Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

I think the danger and risks of Covid were severely exaggerated in order to create a situation where governments were granted more power.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx
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Zelen

We knew well enough by mid-2020 that this wasn't an exceptionally dangerous virus for the majority of adults. There was no reason for panic, and the response in America & Europe was a tremendous failure that harmed more people (and its effects are continually building) for no meaningful reduction in the harm of a virus that we had no hope of realistically stopping.

GeekyBugle

I agree with Kiero, Ratman_tf and Zelen.
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"Voices of April" is basically a compilation of audio clips that document what's been happening in Shanghai, including positive things like neighbors uniting and police sharing food with starving truckers, but also a lot of negative things, like local officials agonizing about their inability to help, mothers begging for medicine for their sick children, the quarantined talking about the horrific conditions in the camps, and so on.

The video went viral on WeChat in China, about a week ago, and it was immediately censored. What's remarkable is there's been a popular revolt against the digital tyranny. Instead of just letting it die, people started reposting the video in different forms and different platforms, flooding Chinese social media.

Here's one of the earliest English translations (subtitles):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llP2qTXJFBc

Other translations are up on YouTube. Stories about it have started to appear in Western media, like CNN or China Uncensored, in the last day or so.

Kiero

Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

So you are irredeemably stupid and ignorant of everything that's happened in the last two years. Thanks for the confirmation.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: Kiero on April 28, 2022, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

So you are irredeemably stupid and ignorant of everything that's happened in the last two years. Thanks for the confirmation.
Your denials of what I've experienced firsthand are pathetic.

Eirikrautha

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 28, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 28, 2022, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

So you are irredeemably stupid and ignorant of everything that's happened in the last two years. Thanks for the confirmation.
Your denials of what I've experienced firsthand are pathetic.
Or, we don't trust you to accurately report, interpret, and/or evaluate your personal experiences with respect to the actualities of Covid.  I'm not going to ask a prison guard about his opinion on the basic morality of the entire population of the US, either.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Eirikrautha on April 28, 2022, 11:24:11 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on April 28, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 28, 2022, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

So you are irredeemably stupid and ignorant of everything that's happened in the last two years. Thanks for the confirmation.
Your denials of what I've experienced firsthand are pathetic.
Or, we don't trust you to accurately report, interpret, and/or evaluate your personal experiences with respect to the actualities of Covid.  I'm not going to ask a prison guard about his opinion on the basic morality of the entire population of the US, either.
You distrust those best able to accurately report, interpret and/or evaluate because you don't like what they are saying. That doesn't matter though, when I'm speaking the truth.  I have qualified my statements with locations and dates rather than speaking generally, and I am still doubted. So, do you believe anyone? Why?

Mistwell

Quote from: Ratman_tf on April 27, 2022, 09:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: Kiero on April 26, 2022, 07:12:04 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 22, 2022, 09:32:10 PM
You just claimed a massive worldwide conspiracy at the top of your post concerning oil prices (a hilarious one where you claimed most of the worlds governments agreed on a topic - which in itself is an obvious nutcase position because most of the worlds governments cannot agree on even the simplest of things much less that type of topic), only to deny you're posting about conspiracies at the bottom.

You've claimed Covid was a massive worldwide conspiracy as well.

For a supposed lawyer, you really don't appear to understand the definition of common words. If it's done openly, it's not a "conspiracy".

The response to covid, a relatively minor seasonal infection, was most definitely orchestrated to increase government power. If you still truly believe there was a global pandemic, a health emergency that necessitated any of this, then you're even more stupid than you appear.

I'd love to know how you explain the World Health Organisation's push for an international treaty that would give it the power to override the elected governments of every signatory nation in the event of a "pandemic", and secondly what the fuck that has to do with the World Economic Forum, who are very publicly partnering the WHO on the matter?

Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

I think the danger and risks of Covid were severely exaggerated in order to create a situation where governments were granted more power.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx

And I think that was a very "It depends on what the definition of "is" is" lawyerly type respose.

When I ask you if something is blue or not, do you respond yes or no, or do you get into the technicalities of shades of blue?

I fucking asked if you thought there was a global pandemic or not. That's it. Nothing about the dangers, nothing about whether it was exaggerated, nothing about Government power. So answer the damn question that was asked, Mr Clinton. Was there or was there not a global pandemic? Because Kiero flat out thinks there was not - no additional conversation needed by him for him to state outright there was not a global pandemic.

Mistwell

Quote from: Zelen on April 27, 2022, 10:28:08 PM
We knew well enough by mid-2020 that this wasn't an exceptionally dangerous virus for the majority of adults. There was no reason for panic, and the response in America & Europe was a tremendous failure that harmed more people (and its effects are continually building) for no meaningful reduction in the harm of a virus that we had no hope of realistically stopping.

Another lawyerly answer.

Was there a global pandemic or not? Not how dangerous, just was there a global pandemic or not?

Mistwell

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 27, 2022, 10:46:48 PM
I agree with Kiero, Ratman_tf and Zelen.

Well they don't agree with each other so far so that's not meaningful.

Kiero thinks there was no global pandemic.
Ratman and Zelen think maybe there was or maybe there was not depending on your definitions you use in a non-answer way.
I am guessing you're ALSO the Ratman/Zelen sketchy wifty non-answer category so far.

Was there a global pandemic, or wasn't there? It's a yes or no answer. No need to write a paragraph about whether it was exaggerated by Governments, or power, or any of that shit to answer that question.

Mistwell

Quote from: Kiero on April 28, 2022, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

So you are irredeemably stupid and ignorant of everything that's happened in the last two years. Thanks for the confirmation.

Make it clear to everyone where you stand: You think there was not a global pandemic, right? I mean regardless of Government motives and exaggerations and danger levels and power grabs and stuff (all which you also think happened) you think there was no global pandemic, right?

Eirikrautha

Quote from: HappyDaze on April 28, 2022, 01:15:44 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on April 28, 2022, 11:24:11 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on April 28, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 28, 2022, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 27, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
Yes, I truly believe there was a global pandemic. Let's start right there. Yes there was a global pandemic.

Who here do you think agrees with you on claiming there was no global pandemic? Point them out, or they can sound off on their own.

So you are irredeemably stupid and ignorant of everything that's happened in the last two years. Thanks for the confirmation.
Your denials of what I've experienced firsthand are pathetic.
Or, we don't trust you to accurately report, interpret, and/or evaluate your personal experiences with respect to the actualities of Covid.  I'm not going to ask a prison guard about his opinion on the basic morality of the entire population of the US, either.
You distrust those best able to accurately report, interpret and/or evaluate because you don't like what they are saying. That doesn't matter though, when I'm speaking the truth.  I have qualified my statements with locations and dates rather than speaking generally, and I am still doubted. So, do you believe anyone? Why?
First, I've seen no indication that you are the best able to do any of the above.   And, far from qualifying, you have generalized your experiences many times, not the least of which is asserting that your experiences are meaningful in discussing the overall pandemic.   I wouldn't trust a judge or cop to have a good idea of the average person's trustworthiness, either.  You're just not self-aware enough to recognize it.