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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 149918 times)

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3675 on: January 11, 2022, 06:08:15 PM »
I've had all three major strains. None of them put me anywhere near a hospital, or even required bed rest. Never been jabbed.

A week after my symptoms started with the last one, I'm back to exercising again. No lingering symptoms.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3676 on: January 11, 2022, 06:35:07 PM »
I'm old enough to remember when the "lab leak" was a conspiracy theory: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/11/scientists-believed-covid-leaked-wuhan-lab-feared-debate-could/
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3677 on: January 11, 2022, 07:42:12 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgoENmeddA

Project Veritas has new documents from DARPA which indicate Fauci and NAIAD did violate the gain of function moratorium, and more broadly about a government investigation into the origins of covid-19 and the coverup.

I don't have a good handle on it. There's some question about why the documents aren't appropriately marked as classified, but otherwise it sounds like a smoking gun. If it holds up, we may actually have good evidence on what caused this whole mess.

Edit: Here's the article on their website, with links to all the documents:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3678 on: January 11, 2022, 08:42:58 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/column-mocking-anti-vaxxers-deaths-is-ghoulish-yes-but-necessary/ar-AASDwXu

It's about time they recognized all of us who mock the dead are essential to public health!

If I were as much of an asshole as the vaccine hysterics, I would say that everyone who dies or suffers ill health from vaccinations should be ridiculed and denied treatment as a warning to others.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3679 on: January 11, 2022, 09:08:40 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/column-mocking-anti-vaxxers-deaths-is-ghoulish-yes-but-necessary/ar-AASDwXu

It's about time they recognized all of us who mock the dead are essential to public health!

If I were as much of an asshole as the vaccine hysterics, I would say that everyone who dies or suffers ill health from vaccinations should be ridiculed and denied treatment as a warning to others.
That would make a good skit. Literally take everything that's been done to hurt the people who haven't completely toed the narrative, and then reverse it. Play it as straight as possible, without any exaggeration. What would it sound like? The sheer number of examples would be overwhelming.

People would flip out.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3680 on: January 12, 2022, 08:00:05 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgoENmeddA

Project Veritas has new documents from DARPA which indicate Fauci and NAIAD did violate the gain of function moratorium, and more broadly about a government investigation into the origins of covid-19 and the coverup.

I don't have a good handle on it. There's some question about why the documents aren't appropriately marked as classified, but otherwise it sounds like a smoking gun. If it holds up, we may actually have good evidence on what caused this whole mess.

Edit: Here's the article on their website, with links to all the documents:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/

Amongst many other things in there, it notes they knew mRNA "vaccines" didn't work and that Ivermectin and HCQ are effective treatments. Which members of the Senate and Congress have been receiving this whole time, even while denigrating them.

This is pretty damning stuff from an Israeli immunologist: https://swprs.org/professor-ehud-qimron-ministry-of-health-its-time-to-admit-failure/
« Last Edit: January 12, 2022, 08:05:18 AM by Kiero »
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3681 on: January 12, 2022, 08:08:06 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgoENmeddA

Project Veritas has new documents from DARPA which indicate Fauci and NAIAD did violate the gain of function moratorium, and more broadly about a government investigation into the origins of covid-19 and the coverup.

I don't have a good handle on it. There's some question about why the documents aren't appropriately marked as classified, but otherwise it sounds like a smoking gun. If it holds up, we may actually have good evidence on what caused this whole mess.

Edit: Here's the article on their website, with links to all the documents:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/
Considering the inability of government to properly handle classified data over the last several years (hi Sandy Berger!), it's plausible it might not have been properly secured.

Also, IIRC the docs state that DARPA turned down the prospect of researching gain of function, which might be why Fauci, et. al. laundered the funds through NIH to the Wuhan lab.


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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3682 on: January 12, 2022, 10:37:38 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgoENmeddA

Project Veritas has new documents from DARPA which indicate Fauci and NAIAD did violate the gain of function moratorium, and more broadly about a government investigation into the origins of covid-19 and the coverup.

I don't have a good handle on it. There's some question about why the documents aren't appropriately marked as classified, but otherwise it sounds like a smoking gun. If it holds up, we may actually have good evidence on what caused this whole mess.

Edit: Here's the article on their website, with links to all the documents:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/
Considering the inability of government to properly handle classified data over the last several years (hi Sandy Berger!), it's plausible it might not have been properly secured.

Also, IIRC the docs state that DARPA turned down the prospect of researching gain of function, which might be why Fauci, et. al. laundered the funds through NIH to the Wuhan lab.
There are many possible explanations for the unmarked documents. It's just a question mark that should be be explored. Though whatever happened, heads should roll. Unless your last name is Clinton, security clearances are taken very seriously.

We already knew about DARPA turning down the gain of function research, but I believe this is the first confirmation that Fauci was aware that his agency went forward with it.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3683 on: January 12, 2022, 11:55:37 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgoENmeddA

Project Veritas has new documents from DARPA which indicate Fauci and NAIAD did violate the gain of function moratorium, and more broadly about a government investigation into the origins of covid-19 and the coverup.

I don't have a good handle on it. There's some question about why the documents aren't appropriately marked as classified, but otherwise it sounds like a smoking gun. If it holds up, we may actually have good evidence on what caused this whole mess.

Edit: Here's the article on their website, with links to all the documents:
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/
Considering the inability of government to properly handle classified data over the last several years (hi Sandy Berger!), it's plausible it might not have been properly secured.

Also, IIRC the docs state that DARPA turned down the prospect of researching gain of function, which might be why Fauci, et. al. laundered the funds through NIH to the Wuhan lab.
There are many possible explanations for the unmarked documents. It's just a question mark that should be be explored. Though whatever happened, heads should roll. Unless your last name is Clinton, security clearances are taken very seriously.

We already knew about DARPA turning down the gain of function research, but I believe this is the first confirmation that Fauci was aware that his agency went forward with it.

They supposedly were marked as UNCLASSIFIED. The allegation is that they were thrown on a classified computer system to hide them.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3684 on: January 12, 2022, 04:10:44 PM »
To see the insanity of mass formation psychosis in action, just take a gander at this:

https://twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1481315911843856387

The responses are peak mental patient stuff.  Proof positive that when you brainwash people hard enough, they won't see the truth when confronted with it - Yuri Bezmenov was 100% accurate...
« Last Edit: January 12, 2022, 04:29:19 PM by 3catcircus »

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3685 on: January 12, 2022, 06:58:37 PM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

Mass formation psychosis in action.

I was vaccinated. Five months later I got Delta. It was like a bad head cold with some O2 debt (like you're in the mountains). They get me mAb treatment and I improved within a day. Got a booster. Got Omicron ( sniffles for a day).

Whose to say whether the vax kept me out of hospital given that it was 5 months after being "fully vaxed" when we have evidence that the VE drops off after 3-4 months, or if the Delta wasn't that bad for most people to begin with.
I don't know about "most people" but Delta filled our system (EDs and inpatient) with patients experiencing significant respiratory distress along with some deaths, so it was plenty bad enough.

It was so bad that you never caught it?

Even with the Hospitals so full the ICUs were at 97% capacity?
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3686 on: January 12, 2022, 08:53:56 PM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

Mass formation psychosis in action.

I was vaccinated. Five months later I got Delta. It was like a bad head cold with some O2 debt (like you're in the mountains). They get me mAb treatment and I improved within a day. Got a booster. Got Omicron ( sniffles for a day).

Whose to say whether the vax kept me out of hospital given that it was 5 months after being "fully vaxed" when we have evidence that the VE drops off after 3-4 months, or if the Delta wasn't that bad for most people to begin with.
I don't know about "most people" but Delta filled our system (EDs and inpatient) with patients experiencing significant respiratory distress along with some deaths, so it was plenty bad enough.

It was so bad that you never caught it?

Even with the Hospitals so full the ICUs were at 97% capacity?

Sshhh...  Don't tell him that if an ICU isn't operating at or near max capacity, it's losing money.

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« Reply #3687 on: January 13, 2022, 12:19:22 AM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

Mass formation psychosis in action.

I was vaccinated. Five months later I got Delta. It was like a bad head cold with some O2 debt (like you're in the mountains). They get me mAb treatment and I improved within a day. Got a booster. Got Omicron ( sniffles for a day).

Whose to say whether the vax kept me out of hospital given that it was 5 months after being "fully vaxed" when we have evidence that the VE drops off after 3-4 months, or if the Delta wasn't that bad for most people to begin with.
I don't know about "most people" but Delta filled our system (EDs and inpatient) with patients experiencing significant respiratory distress along with some deaths, so it was plenty bad enough.

It was so bad that you never caught it?

Even with the Hospitals so full the ICUs were at 97% capacity?
Our ICU was running at almost 150% capacity during the Delta surge. It had expanded to the neighboring surgical floor which had surrendered half its beds to them (elective surgeries were on hold, so less need for surgical recovery) which were then staffed largely with travelers.

And no, I didn't catch it. What part of that resulted from natural constitution, vaccination, PPE use, and general precautions is impossible to say.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3688 on: January 13, 2022, 10:18:55 AM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

Mass formation psychosis in action.

I was vaccinated. Five months later I got Delta. It was like a bad head cold with some O2 debt (like you're in the mountains). They get me mAb treatment and I improved within a day. Got a booster. Got Omicron ( sniffles for a day).

Whose to say whether the vax kept me out of hospital given that it was 5 months after being "fully vaxed" when we have evidence that the VE drops off after 3-4 months, or if the Delta wasn't that bad for most people to begin with.
I don't know about "most people" but Delta filled our system (EDs and inpatient) with patients experiencing significant respiratory distress along with some deaths, so it was plenty bad enough.

It was so bad that you never caught it?

Even with the Hospitals so full the ICUs were at 97% capacity?
Our ICU was running at almost 150% capacity during the Delta surge. It had expanded to the neighboring surgical floor which had surrendered half its beds to them (elective surgeries were on hold, so less need for surgical recovery) which were then staffed largely with travelers.

And no, I didn't catch it. What part of that resulted from natural constitution, vaccination, PPE use, and general precautions is impossible to say.

Was it at 150% because of the number of patients, or was it at 150% because they fired unvaccinated employees resulting in the inability to staff all of their available beds?  This is what is happening in many places. Let's say they have 100 available beds, but only enough staff for 50 beds.  They can declare (and several have done so) themselves to be over capacity with 51 patients occupying beds. 

This is why you can't trust anything coming from hospital administrators without seeing it for yourself.

We have situations where they've fired unvaccinated nurses and doctors while simultaneously ordering vaccinated but infected ones to come back to work *while still contagious*.  Meanwhile all of those fired nurses and doctors are making 2x, 3x, or more salary by being traveling medical practitioners - either going elsewhere or actually being contracted by the hospital that fired them - as independent contractors, they don't have to be vaccinated because they're not employees...

Here's some recent job reqs for traveling nurses:

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« Reply #3689 on: January 13, 2022, 10:26:55 AM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

Mass formation psychosis in action.

I was vaccinated. Five months later I got Delta. It was like a bad head cold with some O2 debt (like you're in the mountains). They get me mAb treatment and I improved within a day. Got a booster. Got Omicron ( sniffles for a day).

Whose to say whether the vax kept me out of hospital given that it was 5 months after being "fully vaxed" when we have evidence that the VE drops off after 3-4 months, or if the Delta wasn't that bad for most people to begin with.
I don't know about "most people" but Delta filled our system (EDs and inpatient) with patients experiencing significant respiratory distress along with some deaths, so it was plenty bad enough.

It was so bad that you never caught it?

Even with the Hospitals so full the ICUs were at 97% capacity?
Our ICU was running at almost 150% capacity during the Delta surge. It had expanded to the neighboring surgical floor which had surrendered half its beds to them (elective surgeries were on hold, so less need for surgical recovery) which were then staffed largely with travelers.

And no, I didn't catch it. What part of that resulted from natural constitution, vaccination, PPE use, and general precautions is impossible to say.

Was it at 150% because of the number of patients, or was it at 150% because they fired unvaccinated employees resulting in the inability to staff all of their available beds?  This is what is happening in many places. Let's say they have 100 available beds, but only enough staff for 50 beds.  They can declare (and several have done so) themselves to be over capacity with 51 patients occupying beds. 

This is why you can't trust anything coming from hospital administrators without seeing it for yourself.

We have situations where they've fired unvaccinated nurses and doctors while simultaneously ordering vaccinated but infected ones to come back to work *while still contagious*.  Meanwhile all of those fired nurses and doctors are making 2x, 3x, or more salary by being traveling medical practitioners - either going elsewhere or actually being contracted by the hospital that fired them - as independent contractors, they don't have to be vaccinated because they're not employees...
I'm in Florida.  Nurses and staff were not being fired for their vaccination status during Delta, nor for the most part now. 

The ICU was expanded from 40 staffed beds to 60 staffed beds with almost half coming from travelers. I can trust what I did see with my own eyes.

Your last bit is some weird thinking. Most travel agencies require vaccination in their employees because it's far easier for hospitals to demand it from them through short term contracts than to try to push vaccination on their own existing permanent employees.