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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 215268 times)

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3660 on: January 10, 2022, 10:14:25 AM »
Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...
Are you saying Australians are stupid? That's hate speech!

"Hate speech" is free speech...  Without the 2nd, we wouldn't have the 1st...  Australia has neither, anymore.

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

As long as the King of England says its all good.

Australia *used* to have firearms.  I was referring to that, not their constitution itself.

While we're at it, the Australian Constitution does not protect *personal* rights to free speech or adsembly.  Fundamentally different than the US where the bill of rights enumerates that they are *not* restrictions on legislation because the people do not derive them from government permission.


Well to be fair Australia does follow common law, and the right to self defense is well established in common law. Don't need no constitution if our ancient rights and traditions are respected.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3661 on: January 10, 2022, 10:50:41 AM »
Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...
Are you saying Australians are stupid? That's hate speech!

"Hate speech" is free speech...  Without the 2nd, we wouldn't have the 1st...  Australia has neither, anymore.

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

As long as the King of England says its all good.

Australia *used* to have firearms.  I was referring to that, not their constitution itself.

While we're at it, the Australian Constitution does not protect *personal* rights to free speech or adsembly.  Fundamentally different than the US where the bill of rights enumerates that they are *not* restrictions on legislation because the people do not derive them from government permission.


Well to be fair Australia does follow common law, and the right to self defense is well established in common law. Don't need no constitution if our ancient rights and traditions are respected.

The difference being that, at any time, the Aussie government can come along and confiscate weapons ) whether a grain thresher, a longbow, or an AK-47) and you have no recourse. In the US, when a government attempts to restrict firearms in any way, you still have the ability to sue them with the possibility of overturning bad legislation, or move to a different state...
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3662 on: January 10, 2022, 01:33:11 PM »
Noted conspiracy theorist Anthony Fauci, who in the past has agreed with known conspiracy theories like the idea that covid-19 may have come from a Wuhan lab, has now jumped on board with a new conspiracy theory: That the number of hospitalizations for covid-19 has been overcounted.

WARNING CONTAINS HARMFUL DISINFORMATION WARNING
Quote from: From his MSNBC interview
If a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, ‘hospitalized with COVID,’ as opposed to because of COVID.

When are we going to finally cancel this alt-right wacko from all platforms for misinformation?

Inorite...  It's almost as if there was a concerted effort to make a sitting President look bad as an opportunity after screwing up research work that you weren't allowed to be doing to begin with, and then having to figure out how to try and extricate yourself from the flaming wreckage that resulted...
It's not gain of function if we change what gain and function mean.

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« Reply #3663 on: January 10, 2022, 06:20:31 PM »
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has tested positive for covid-19 after visiting Happydazeland to party without a mask among the huge piles of rotting corpses that are 100% the fault of Sith Lord DeSantis.
https://astoriapost.com/rep-ocasio-cortez-tests-positive- for-covid-19

We send hopes and prayers for her speedy recovery, but none whatsoever for her incipient cancellation for hypocrisy, because we know that will never happen. The rules are for thee and me, not for she.

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« Reply #3664 on: January 10, 2022, 08:41:13 PM »
If you got vaccinated to prevent transmission, protect others, and "end" the pandemic, you were a sucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiEiZEMM_0s

And these are the people we're supposed to believe about reduced mortality from being vaccinated.  ;)

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3665 on: January 10, 2022, 10:46:24 PM »
If you got vaccinated to prevent transmission, protect others, and "end" the pandemic, you were a sucker.

Ackshually we prefer the term useful idiots.
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« Reply #3666 on: January 10, 2022, 11:37:04 PM »
For the last two weeks EDs in the central Florida area have been hit with a Covid surge. No, not a bunch of people on ventilators...in fact, most of them don't require any significant interventions at all. So what's the issue? Testing. Every jackass is rushing into EDs for testing thinking it's somehow going to move faster than the testing centers. It doesn't. Anyone showing only minor (or no) symptoms gets tagged as Acuity 5 (the least severe category) and might have to then sit for hours in an overcrowded waiting area until the staff is available to swab them, do the required initial assessment (including vital signs), have registration (billing dept) verfiy their information (not that most of the uninsured are ever going to pay), and then get discharged. At that point, they still don't have an answer--they need to log into a web app to find out if they are positive or not.  Sometimes the same person will come in again for retesting only a few days later (current record at my site is four visits for testing in 10 days). Hilariously, these people expect to have meals served to them while they're piled up in the ED lobby, and they make other outrageous demands on a regular basis too. On Sunday, I was heading into work and saw that the two local testing centers I passed by had signs saying "open Monday-Saturday." Sure enough, we had a shit-load of "testees" show up, and it makes it hard to focus resources where they need to be, since EMTALA says we can't turn them away.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #3667 on: January 10, 2022, 11:54:43 PM »
Don't need no constitution if our ancient rights and traditions are respected.
If.

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« Reply #3668 on: January 11, 2022, 09:54:21 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/column-mocking-anti-vaxxers-deaths-is-ghoulish-yes-but-necessary/ar-AASDwXu

It's about time they recognized all of us who mock the dead are essential to public health!

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« Reply #3669 on: January 11, 2022, 12:29:45 PM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild. 

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« Reply #3670 on: January 11, 2022, 01:14:58 PM »
I read a 7 page policy document last night.  Numerous large U.S. employers are using February 9th, as a deadline for vaccination or submitting to mandatory weekly testing at your own expense.  Things will tighten down on many citizens in the U.S. February 9th.  They aren't mandating vaccination.  They are mandating testing.  A huge logjam is about to hit the U.S.
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« Reply #3671 on: January 11, 2022, 01:31:02 PM »
So much for medical privacy or 'my body my choice'.

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« Reply #3672 on: January 11, 2022, 01:57:13 PM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

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« Reply #3673 on: January 11, 2022, 05:37:13 PM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

Mass formation psychosis in action.

I was vaccinated. Five months later I got Delta. It was like a bad head cold with some O2 debt (like you're in the mountains). They get me mAb treatment and I improved within a day. Got a booster. Got Omicron ( sniffles for a day).

Whose to say whether the vax kept me out of hospital given that it was 5 months after being "fully vaxed" when we have evidence that the VE drops off after 3-4 months, or if the Delta wasn't that bad for most people to begin with.

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« Reply #3674 on: January 11, 2022, 05:41:03 PM »
  Have Covid now.  I do not want to be insensitive, but if this is the virus that is stopping the world in its tracks....we are all a bunch of pussies.  EXTREMELY mild.
The "Covid now" variant is considerably milder overall than the version we had this past summer. I saw a lot of very sick patients during the Delta surge. Now, not so much, but hot damn does every fool that wakes up with a headache want to be tested over and over again.

Mass formation psychosis in action.

I was vaccinated. Five months later I got Delta. It was like a bad head cold with some O2 debt (like you're in the mountains). They get me mAb treatment and I improved within a day. Got a booster. Got Omicron ( sniffles for a day).

Whose to say whether the vax kept me out of hospital given that it was 5 months after being "fully vaxed" when we have evidence that the VE drops off after 3-4 months, or if the Delta wasn't that bad for most people to begin with.
I don't know about "most people" but Delta filled our system (EDs and inpatient) with patients experiencing significant respiratory distress along with some deaths, so it was plenty bad enough.