Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[jhkim]

It took you that long to recognize that society is on the cusp of collapse (and has been for a very long time) because of the mediocrity and incompetence that passes for government and industry "expertise?" The vast majority of those who are considered "experts," or "the foremost authority on" something are anything but.  They're all essentially the Theranos bitch grifting through their career and life. If politicians were qualified to govern or legislate, we'd have laws written such that an average 5 year old could understand them and there would never be fraud, waste, corruption or abuse in any government.

Yes, politicians aren't benevolent and qualified leaders - and governments are full of fraud, waste, corruption, and abuse. However, that has always been true throughout history. If corruptions and abuse in government was a sign of collapse, then society must have had tons of collapses all the time. This just seems naive of history.

As I read histories, I am never struck that government and industry were full of competence and excellence. I think it should be accepted that this is how society works. We can try to make it better, or we can bemoan that we're all doomed because something that has been true throughout history is still true today.

[dkabq]

No Way to Grow Up
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/briefing/american-children-crisis-pandemic.html

Even the NYT acknowledges that covid is not a significant risk for children. And yet all of the NYT-reading leftist are baying for children to be vaccinated.

[3catcircus]

It took you that long to recognize that society is on the cusp of collapse (and has been for a very long time) because of the mediocrity and incompetence that passes for government and industry "expertise?" The vast majority of those who are considered "experts," or "the foremost authority on" something are anything but.  They're all essentially the Theranos bitch grifting through their career and life. If politicians were qualified to govern or legislate, we'd have laws written such that an average 5 year old could understand them and there would never be fraud, waste, corruption or abuse in any government.

Yes, politicians aren't benevolent and qualified leaders - and governments are full of fraud, waste, corruption, and abuse. However, that has always been true throughout history. If corruptions and abuse in government was a sign of collapse, then society must have had tons of collapses all the time. This just seems naive of history.

As I read histories, I am never struck that government and industry were full of competence and excellence. I think it should be accepted that this is how society works. We can try to make it better, or we can bemoan that we're all doomed because something that has been true throughout history is still true today.

It's the whole "good people fix problems, which leads to complacency which leads to corruption, which leads to revolution by good people to fix problems..."

Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...

[Pat]

Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...

Are you saying Australians are stupid? That's hate speech!

[3catcircus]

Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...

Are you saying Australians are stupid? That's hate speech!

"Hate speech" is free speech...  Without the 2nd, we wouldn't have the 1st...  Australia has neither, anymore.

[Shasarak]

Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...

Are you saying Australians are stupid? That's hate speech!

"Hate speech" is free speech...  Without the 2nd, we wouldn't have the 1st...  Australia has neither, anymore.

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

As long as the King of England says its all good.

[Pat]

Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...

Are you saying Australians are stupid? That's hate speech!

"Hate speech" is free speech...  Without the 2nd, we wouldn't have the 1st...  Australia has neither, anymore.

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

As long as the King of England says its all good.

I didn't know Elizabeth came out as transgender. Or is that his dead name now?

[3catcircus]

Luckily some of us (the collective "we") were smart enough to not allow government to take away the right to bear arms...

Are you saying Australians are stupid? That's hate speech!

"Hate speech" is free speech...  Without the 2nd, we wouldn't have the 1st...  Australia has neither, anymore.

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

As long as the King of England says its all good.

Australia *used* to have firearms.  I was referring to that, not their constitution itself.

While we're at it, the Australian Constitution does not protect *personal* rights to free speech or adsembly.  Fundamentally different than the US where the bill of rights enumerates that they are *not* restrictions on legislation because the people do not derive them from government permission.

[Ratman_tf]

The narrative is starting to unravel.

https://twitter.com/jasonrantz/status/1480327667861782528

I'm expecting a ton of backpedaling and "The science was settled, now we have new data, so It's re-settled!" shenanigans.

[3catcircus]

The narrative is starting to unravel.

https://twitter.com/jasonrantz/status/1480327667861782528

I'm expecting a ton of backpedaling and "The science was settled, now we have new data, so It's re-settled!" shenanigans.

The most interesting thing is The Ethical Skeptic had been suggesting that omicron is actually a grandchild of a covid strain that predates alpha.

[Spinachcat]

Trust the Science! Doublemask your buttholes!! For the children!

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

The US has a poor track record of following the US Constitution.

[Shasarak]

Trust the Science! Doublemask your buttholes!! For the children!

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

The US has a poor track record of following the US Constitution.

It is more what youd call 'guidelines' than actual rules

[Pat]

Noted conspiracy theorist Anthony Fauci, who in the past has agreed with known conspiracy theories like the idea that covid-19 may have come from a Wuhan lab, has now jumped on board with a new conspiracy theory: That the number of hospitalizations for covid-19 has been overcounted.

WARNING CONTAINS HARMFUL DISINFORMATION WARNING

If a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it's overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID.

When are we going to finally cancel this alt-right wacko from all platforms for misinformation?

[3catcircus]

Trust the Science! Doublemask your buttholes!! For the children!

You know other countries dont follow the US Constitution, right?

The US has a poor track record of following the US Constitution.

It is more what youd call 'guidelines' than actual rules

And that's the problem for leftists... They don't understand words like "Congress shall make no law," or "...shall not be infringed" are absolutes.

In engineering terms, they're "shall" statements - i.e. they are requirements, not design goals...

[3catcircus]

Noted conspiracy theorist Anthony Fauci, who in the past has agreed with known conspiracy theories like the idea that covid-19 may have come from a Wuhan lab, has now jumped on board with a new conspiracy theory: That the number of hospitalizations for covid-19 has been overcounted.

WARNING CONTAINS HARMFUL DISINFORMATION WARNING

If a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it's overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID.

When are we going to finally cancel this alt-right wacko from all platforms for misinformation?

Inorite...  It's almost as if there was a concerted effort to make a sitting President look bad as an opportunity after screwing up research work that you weren't allowed to be doing to begin with, and then having to figure out how to try and extricate yourself from the flaming wreckage that resulted...