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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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Mistwell

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 24, 2021, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on December 24, 2021, 06:37:06 PM
Quote from: Reckall on December 24, 2021, 03:00:54 PMWhen are the US due to reach one million deaths BTW?

As the CDC admitted long ago that only 6% of the "death total" actually died FROM the China Virus and 94% died WITH the China Virus, the USA won't be hitting 1M deaths FROM the virus for at least two decades.

Link for the data?

But even if the death toll is a true number, thats very much a 'PEOPLE WILL DIE' catchall that can be used to ban fast food, cars, and Kinder Suprises.

There is no genuine link to that claim.

Reckall

Quote from: Kiero on December 23, 2021, 04:41:34 PM
Quote from: Reckall on December 23, 2021, 04:37:18 PM
Well, that you never sought professional help - in a very general sense - is quite clear.

That's a no then. I'd put good money on you being overweight and unfit, which is why you were hospitalised with the 'rona, and I wasn't.

See: you can see your problem (two actually) right there:

First, you start with assumptions and then you act like if they were The Truth.

Second, you don't even bother to read anything. I was kicked off from a clinic because it was turned into a COVID ward - and us non-COVID cases were sent home. As I wrote. I wasn't there because I had COVID. I was there for some minor surgery.

Which explains why you link a page about the Italian situation with a disclaimer that those news had already been debunked on the same page you linked. ::)

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Quote from: rgalex on December 24, 2021, 09:01:53 PM
Quote from: Reckall on December 24, 2021, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 24, 2021, 01:48:29 PM
Because on the sudden travel changes my father nearly didn't get into the states and had to call me up at 11 pm to have me make him a covid test that was 24 hours ago and not 35 hours ago. He was very thankful because he was surrounded by a large group of people stunned or weeping that they would not get to visit their families for the holidays because of a sudden change of testing conditions for a disease about as bad as sniffles.

When are the US due to reach one million deaths BTW?

If you are honest about it, never.  Like most other seasonal respiratory viruses the death count should reset every new season.  We don't keep a running total of flu deaths, why are we doing it for C-19?

Well it's impossible for the DemonKKKrats to win an election without cheating right now so you need to keep a running total to scare the mid-wits so that you can continue using mail-in ballots allowing cheating.

Shasarak

Quote from: Daztur on December 23, 2021, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on December 23, 2021, 04:58:37 PM
But hey, we gotta make sure all the leftists get their unlimited series of boosters!

Thanks!

I hope that fascist get all the bleach they can drink.

Thats the same person
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Kiero

Quote from: Pat on December 24, 2021, 03:56:15 PM
The mechanism of transmission does a good job of explaining why the superspreader events happen. In fact, it was the nature of the superspreader events (indoors not outdoors, none in airplanes) that was one of the early clues suggesting that covid-19 was highly aerosolized, and that the large droplet model was wrong.

Masks and social distancing are different topics. Masks have been shown to be largely ineffective, and this follows from what we know about the highly aerosolized nature of the disease. The droplets carrying the great majority of shed viruses are smaller than the particles even an N95 respirator can block. Positive pressure may help, but I haven't seen any studies, and it's not a feature of any face covering that's been seriously considered for public use. Social distancing is also of marginal benefit. It's remarkable how long public health took to recognize the highly aerosolized nature of the disease despite very strong evidence, and even more remarkable that the conclusion didn't change any of their policy recommendations. If they were true advocates for public health instead of political animals, they would have dropped the mask and constant sanitation recommendations, and strongly pushed ventilation.

Sorry, you need to wind right back and ask yourself a fundamental question: why is any of this necessary for something that's harmless for the overwhelming majority of people?

Quote from: Mistwell on December 24, 2021, 10:39:04 PM
You think it's inappropriate in some way to ask why a person would be going to and re-posting from a blatantly antisemitic site?

I think it's a total irrelevance that you're trying to use as a smokescreen rather than address the point itself.
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Mistwell

Quote from: Kiero on December 25, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
I think it's a total irrelevance that you're trying to use as a smokescreen rather than address the point itself.

Bullshit. You read and quote an antisemitic site, it's fair for me to ask why. I don't give a shit if you think it's irrelevant - it's literally the one thing Pundit has banned people for here, and if you don't want to fucking escalate this you will offer some shred of an explanation for why you're linking people to articles on a blatantly antisemitic website here. Stop diverting from the question and answer it.

Kiero

Quote from: Mistwell on December 26, 2021, 07:32:22 PM
Bullshit. You read and quote an antisemitic site, it's fair for me to ask why. I don't give a shit if you think it's irrelevant - it's literally the one thing Pundit has banned people for here, and if you don't want to fucking escalate this you will offer some shred of an explanation for why you're linking people to articles on a blatantly antisemitic website here. Stop diverting from the question and answer it.

You can take your oh-so-veiled threat of getting me banned and stick it up your arse. I don't owe you an explanation of anything.
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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Kiero on December 27, 2021, 06:03:10 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 26, 2021, 07:32:22 PM
Bullshit. You read and quote an antisemitic site, it's fair for me to ask why. I don't give a shit if you think it's irrelevant - it's literally the one thing Pundit has banned people for here, and if you don't want to fucking escalate this you will offer some shred of an explanation for why you're linking people to articles on a blatantly antisemitic website here. Stop diverting from the question and answer it.

You can take your oh-so-veiled threat of getting me banned and stick it up your arse. I don't owe you an explanation of anything.
Misty's one step from going full Karen, 'I WANT TO TALK TO YOUR MANAGER', I see.

Do it, Misty. C'mon! Let's fucking DO this.

Or fuck off like the pussy we all know you are.

Shrieking Banshee

If Hitler made the cure for cancer, it would still be the cure for cancer. Im jewish and I fight over this sort of rhetoric with my sister all the time.

But Im looking for the 9% CDC link and I can't find it. I will have to assume its a misquoute or just made up. But a death toll of 800K sounds f***ing rediculous and improbable.

Kiero

UK government is rolling out digital ID (using a currently inactive part of the covid passport) in April 2022: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/digital-identity-document-validation-technology-idvt

Because it was never about public health, and always about control.

Meanwhile the Bank of England continues building it's case for digital currency: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/news/2021/november/statement-on-central-bank-digital-currency-next-steps

Nothing to see here, though, unless you're paranoid. No way they'd remove cash and link your accounts to your identity and social credit score, so they can switch off your ability to spend your own money if you behave in a proscribed manner.
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Mistwell

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 27, 2021, 08:45:42 AM
Quote from: Kiero on December 27, 2021, 06:03:10 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 26, 2021, 07:32:22 PM
Bullshit. You read and quote an antisemitic site, it's fair for me to ask why. I don't give a shit if you think it's irrelevant - it's literally the one thing Pundit has banned people for here, and if you don't want to fucking escalate this you will offer some shred of an explanation for why you're linking people to articles on a blatantly antisemitic website here. Stop diverting from the question and answer it.

You can take your oh-so-veiled threat of getting me banned and stick it up your arse. I don't owe you an explanation of anything.
Misty's one step from going full Karen, 'I WANT TO TALK TO YOUR MANAGER', I see.

Do it, Misty. C'mon! Let's fucking DO this.

Or fuck off like the pussy we all know you are.

Why do you think it's acceptable to be linking to antisemitic sites here? Is there ANYTHING Kiero can do which you would be bothered by at this point?

RPGPundit

Quote from: Kiero on December 27, 2021, 06:03:10 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 26, 2021, 07:32:22 PM
Bullshit. You read and quote an antisemitic site, it's fair for me to ask why. I don't give a shit if you think it's irrelevant - it's literally the one thing Pundit has banned people for here, and if you don't want to fucking escalate this you will offer some shred of an explanation for why you're linking people to articles on a blatantly antisemitic website here. Stop diverting from the question and answer it.

You can take your oh-so-veiled threat of getting me banned and stick it up your arse. I don't owe you an explanation of anything.

You definitely owe me one. And it better be a damn good one.  Like, along the lines that you're an absolute idiot and that you didn't realize that site was full of anti-semitic bile, and you're going to remove the link from your posts.

As will anyone who quoted him.
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Kiero

Quote from: RPGPundit on December 27, 2021, 09:23:18 PM
You definitely owe me one. And it better be a damn good one.  Like, along the lines that you're an absolute idiot and that you didn't realize that site was full of anti-semitic bile, and you're going to remove the link from your posts.

As will anyone who quoted him.

Your site, your rules.

I linked it for no reason beyond the fact that it referenced the case put before the magistrates against our former Health Secretary over the use of that sedative drug. That article was the first one that came up when searching for "midazolam murders".

I've never seen the site before and link removed.
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Ghostmaker

What's interesting is that there is NOTHING about these murders, at least in terms of 'mainstream' coverage. Nada.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, though. And I find it fascinating that Wayne Smith, who had been spearheading the probe, mysteriously turned up dead.

This might offend people's sensibilities less: https://principia-scientific.com/overwhelming-evidence-of-midazolam-murders-by-government-policy/

Notable is that they include a link to a PDF that recommends, for patients with breathlessness (difficulty breathing, I believe), a morphine and midazolam infusion. Which is... worrisome. There was a murder case in 2011 where a guy with sleep apnea evidently died from a dose of midazolam.

Very curious, to say the least.