Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[Neoplatonist1]

Just to be clear, "bullshit" means everything--vaccinations, social distancing, handwashing, masks, self-isolation, contact-tracing, testing--or does it mean just mask-wearing?

All of it. None of this charade, no part of it, was ever necessary for a seasonal bug less deadly than the flu to anyone under 65.

Real pandemics don't require a marketing budget. There's no reason we should be living any differently now than we did in 2019 and all the years before it.

Hmm. Do you eschew the regular influenza vaccine as well?

[Kiero]

Hmm. Do you eschew the regular influenza vaccine as well?

Pointless waste of time and not a vaccine. Harmless, but useless. Never had it, never seen any need.

I should note I am fully up to date with all my childhood vaccinations (we have many fewer vaccines on our "necessary" list in the UK than you do in the US), as are my children. I voluntarily got the hep B vaccine. I'm not an "anti-vaxxer".

[Shasarak]

Our nationwide mask mandate is back on again, announced today. I'll be ignoring it as usual, still haven't worn one and don't own one.

I'll be out every single day, maskless, as is normal. I might taunt the muzzled drones in the shops by whistling as I go.

What's your solution to the pandemic, Kiero? Just let it rage?

Has there been any solution to the pandemic, Neoplastonist1?

Lockdown has not worked.

Masks have not worked.

"Vaccines" have not worked.

Maybe it is time for 2 weeks of letting it rage to flatten the curve?

[Neoplatonist1]

Our nationwide mask mandate is back on again, announced today. I'll be ignoring it as usual, still haven't worn one and don't own one.

I'll be out every single day, maskless, as is normal. I might taunt the muzzled drones in the shops by whistling as I go.

What's your solution to the pandemic, Kiero? Just let it rage?

Has there been any solution to the pandemic, Neoplastonist1?

Lockdown has not worked.

Masks have not worked.

"Vaccines" have not worked.

Maybe it is time for 2 weeks of letting it rage to flatten the curve?

The one thing that would seriously hamper the virus's transmission rates would be stopping air travel. The virus doesn't have legs or wings, it only goes where humans go. Shutting down air travel would be the best way to stop the variants from spreading.

Lockdowns worked for parts of Australia, from what I've read, but, lockdowns appear to lose us more life-years than they save. https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/study-covid-19-lockdowns-deadlier-than-pandemic-itself/

[dkabq]

What's your solution to the pandemic, Kiero? Just let it rage?

If there ever was a pandemic, it passed last summer. And yes, "let it rage", same as we have done every fucking year before 2020.

If you still believe there's an active outbreak going on that merits all this bullshit right now, you're tapped in the head.

Just to be clear, "bullshit" means everything--vaccinations, social distancing, handwashing, masks, self-isolation, contact-tracing, testing--or does it mean just mask-wearing?

I am an anti-social fuck-wad, so I am always social distancing.

Covid isn't notionally spread by touch. So other than normal hand washing, I would put it into the hygiene theater category. 

Other than a properly-fitted, properly-worn, clean, N-95 or a respirator (half or full-face), a hard NO.

One good thing that has come out of this is that people (at least where I work) have stopped coming into work when they are sick. That's something that I have tried to be mindful of over my career.

Can anyone point me to where contract-tracing did fuck-all anything? If not, then "bullshit" it is.

I could see situations where testing is appropriate. But the current testing is bollocks. Moreover, it begs the question of why stop at covid? For example, let's say you want to visit your granny in the nursing home. So you get tested for covid, 'cause you don't want to be killing granny. But what about flu, pneumonia, etc. that could also kill granny?

All that said, I would let everyone make their own choices. You want to take the vaccine and booster ad nauseum, wear two masks, wear a 3' radius QE collar, get tested every week, and log in with the state everywhere you go, have at it.

YMMV.

[FelixGamingX1]

Just don't feel Omicron to be a catchy name for a variant. It's not even scary. Assuming they're saving Omega for the real deal.

[Pat]

The one thing that would seriously hamper the virus's transmission rates would be stopping air travel. The virus doesn't have legs or wings, it only goes where humans go. Shutting down air travel would be the best way to stop the variants from spreading.

Lockdowns worked for parts of Australia, from what I've read, but, lockdowns appear to lose us more life-years than they save. https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/study-covid-19-lockdowns-deadlier-than-pandemic-itself/

The only measure that's worked in slowing the spread is locking down borders followed by aggressive contract tracing. But that only worked with island countries. It's not feasible for the rest of the world.

Grounding airplanes might slow the spread of new strains, but wouldn't solve the fundamental problem: The US, and probably much of the world, had widespread community spread in late 2019, long before the pandemic was recognized as a pandemic. Border controls don't work when you have invisible networks of people spreading the disease, and contact tracing only works when there are a very limited number of cases. Once you have community spread (cases popping up that you can't trace back to previous known cases), contact tracing is pointless except as a monitoring tool.

And curiously, there have been no superspreader events on airplanes. While airplanes have been a vector to bring infected people into new areas where they can start spreading the disease once they debark, they haven't been spreading the disease to other people on the airplanes. The ventilation systems and directed air really seem to work.

[Shasarak]

Our nationwide mask mandate is back on again, announced today. I'll be ignoring it as usual, still haven't worn one and don't own one.

I'll be out every single day, maskless, as is normal. I might taunt the muzzled drones in the shops by whistling as I go.

What's your solution to the pandemic, Kiero? Just let it rage?

Has there been any solution to the pandemic, Neoplastonist1?

Lockdown has not worked.

Masks have not worked.

"Vaccines" have not worked.

Maybe it is time for 2 weeks of letting it rage to flatten the curve?

The one thing that would seriously hamper the virus's transmission rates would be stopping air travel. The virus doesn't have legs or wings, it only goes where humans go. Shutting down air travel would be the best way to stop the variants from spreading.

Lockdowns worked for parts of Australia, from what I've read, but, lockdowns appear to lose us more life-years than they save. https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/study-covid-19-lockdowns-deadlier-than-pandemic-itself/

I was under the impression that they tried to stop air travel already but gave up because of the inherent racism.

[Kiero]

The case of the Diamond Princess right at the start of the "pandemic" burst the notion that this is some hyper-virulent plague we should be terrified of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_Diamond_Princess

Long before jabs or any so-called infection control measures, hardly anyone was infected, a tiny number died and most weren't even that ill.

[Mistwell]

By the way, good news. The new variant, Omicron or whatever it's called, may present with mild symptoms including so far no known loss of taste and smell. Most common symptoms with this strain appear to be rapid heart beat, a fever, both of which seem to go away in a few days.

[FelixGamingX1]

By the way, good news. The new variant, Omicron or whatever it's called, may present with mild symptoms including so far no known loss of taste and smell. Most common symptoms with this strain appear to be rapid heart beat, a fever, both of which seem to go away in a few days.

Don't worry bud, if it doesn't go away, we sure will.

[dkabq]

So if you disagree with St. Fauci, the claim is that you are criticizing science:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-blasts-fauci-astounding-alarming-represent-science
"...but they're really criticizing science because I represent science."

[Kiero]

By the way, good news. The new variant, Omicron or whatever it's called, may present with mild symptoms including so far no known loss of taste and smell. Most common symptoms with this strain appear to be rapid heart beat, a fever, both of which seem to go away in a few days.

It's the natural evolution of a virus to become more contagious, but less lethal. Just as Delta was less severe than Alpha, so Omicron is less severe again than Delta.

Even less reason to risk an adverse reaction with an experimental therapeutic treatment.

As for the "rapid heart beat" - bollocks. That's them trying to sweep the "mysterious" cardiac side effects of the jabs under the carpet.

[Ratman_tf]

Just don't feel Omicron to be a catchy name for a variant. It's not even scary. Assuming they're saving Omega for the real deal.

Aw, yeah!

[Ratman_tf]

So if you disagree with St. Fauci, the claim is that you are criticizing science:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-blasts-fauci-astounding-alarming-represent-science
"...but they're really criticizing science because I represent science."

A fan of Return of the Sith, I see!