Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[Eirikrautha]

Someone forcing you to work at a company under those regulations?

Actually yes.

Who is forcing you to work for a specific larger company? Pretty sure that's a violation of the 13th amendment.

More than half the nations jobs are for small companies. You should get one of those.

If there was internet back during the Jim Crow era, I'm sure there would have been posters who sounded exactly like you.

You think requiring a vaccine or a covid test to work at larger corporations is the same as not being allowed to work somewhere or go to school somewhere or drink from the same water fountain as white people or ride on the same bus as white people or eat at the same restaurants as white people because of the color of your skin?

OH. OK. You're a fucking tool Pat. You finally crossed over to full retard. Welcome to Kiero Kountry, dumbass. Don't deny being batshit crazy anymore dude. Your "I'm a reasonable dude" card has been revoked.

It's not exactly the same, but is the closest equivalent.

No. No it's fucking well not. Race is something you are born with. Getting a vaccine or getting tested once a week by spitting in a tube is a choice, not something that is a factor of birth. They are not "closest equivalent" at all. Only people who have gone right off the deep end would equate those two disparate situations.

Lots of people are born with medical conditions that prevent them from getting the vaccine, and you'll notice that most of the mandates don't have medical exemptions. Other people have religious objections to taking vaccines made with stem cells. And others are hesitant about the long term side effects. And other people just don't like fascism.

I never understood it before, because it seemed so far removed. But this is how fascism spreads, by the quisling self-justifying sophistries of people like you, who take the knee and then try to convince themselves they're being moral.

And it's not spitting in a tube. The PCR tests are an invasive nose swab. Last time I had one, it took over 2 hours waiting in line. That amounts to more than 2-1/2 full work weeks, a year. And the regressives are using twisted logic to argue that it's not mandatory because they could just take the jab, so anyone opting out has to pay for the tests themselves. Which run about $150/each, or $7800/year. Try to explain to a family working hand to mouth how that's not coercion.

No dude, it's spitting in a bottle these days for weekly tests. My kid has done it once a week every week since returning to school. So have all of her friends, even in other districts. So has one adult friend of mine working at a company that requires weekly tests. You're just spitting in a tube once a week as you enter. Takes about 30 seconds.

That is not equivalent to being born a certain race. Only a nutcase who cannot tell the difference between degrees of something would equate the two.

No, moron, the federal mandates (on government and contractors) have no provisions for weekly testing.  You get the jab or lose your job.  Period.  That's not spitting in a tube; it's segregation based on religion, medical status, or personal health history, depending on why someone can't take the shot.

[dkabq]

Executive Order on Ensuring Adequate COVID Safety Protocols for Federal Contractors:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/09/09/executive-order-on-ensuring-adequate-covid-safety-protocols-for-federal-contractors/

I saw nothing in it for any exemptions. However...

https://www.saferfederalworkforce.gov/faq/vaccinations/

Q: Are there exceptions to the requirement for all employees to be fully vaccinated?

A: Federal employees must be fully vaccinated other than in limited circumstances where the law requires an exception. In particular, an agency may be required to provide a reasonable accommodation to employees who communicate to the agency that they are not vaccinated against COVID-19 because of a disability or because of a sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance. Determining whether an exception is legally required will include consideration of factors such as the basis for the claim; the nature of the employee's job responsibilities; and the reasonably foreseeable effects on the agency's operations, including protecting other agency employees and the public from COVID-19. Because such assessments will be fact- and context-dependent, agencies are encouraged to consult their offices of general counsel with questions related to assessing and implementing any such requested accommodations.

So it looks to me like there is a "...sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance" exception. Of course, what will count as legally required will likely be very narrow (answer to question 5):

"In some cases, the nature of the employee's job may be such that an agency determines that no safety protocol other than vaccination is adequate. In such circumstances, the agency may deny the requested accommodation."


If you get an exemption, you will most likely have to get periodically tested; I am guessing at your expense.

[Kiero]

No dude, it's spitting in a bottle these days for weekly tests. My kid has done it once a week every week since returning to school. So have all of her friends, even in other districts. So has one adult friend of mine working at a company that requires weekly tests. You're just spitting in a tube once a week as you enter. Takes about 30 seconds.

That is not equivalent to being born a certain race. Only a nutcase who cannot tell the difference between degrees of something would equate the two.

Aren't you good, little, compliant Citizen Units! I'm sure you'll get excellent Social Credit scores for your submission to authority.

My kids have never been tested, never been masked and won't be jabbed. My eldest is exempt from muzzles and tests at secondary school. Because we, her parents, said so.

[Pat]

That is not equivalent to being born a certain race. Only a nutcase who cannot tell the difference between degrees of something would equate the two.

I defer to your expertise in being a nutcase.

[dkabq]

What's your over/under on # of shots? To keep it simple, lets only consider 18+ year-olds. And we will ignore the J&J vaccine. So that puts the current count at either 2 or 3, depending on whether your employer is requiring boosters.

I am setting the line at 9.5 (3 + two boosters a year until after the 2024 election) . I will take the under at 9, as I am betting that the Ds will lose to the Rs in 2024. But then the conventional wisdom was that the bad orange man had no chance of winning, so one never knows.

[Ghostmaker]

https://twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1456645731691925518

But no, it's not a cult, they won't ask us to wear masks forever. Only to flatten the curve! You don't want to kill grandma, do you?

[dkabq]

https://twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1456645731691925518

But no, it's not a cult, they won't ask us to wear masks forever. Only to flatten the curve! You don't want to kill grandma, do you?

Where is her citation to the source for the 80% number?

[dkabq]

Dr Peter Doshi, on Capitol Hill last week...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8ShvWc0_kw

"How would you feel about mandating COVID vaccines if we didn't call them vaccines? What if these injections were called drugs instead? So here's the scenario, we have this drug, and we have evidence that it doesn't prevent infection nor does it stop viral transmission. But the drug is understood to reduce your risk of becoming very sick and dying of COVID. Would you take a dose of this drug every six months or so for possibly the rest of your life, if that's what it took for the drug to stay effective? Would not just take this drug yourself, but support regulations mandating that everybody else around you take this drug?"

"The point is, just because we call it a vaccine, doesn't mean we should assume these new products are just like all other childhood vaccines which get mandate."

[Kiero]

Where is her citation to the source for the 80% number?

We don't need evidence, Comrade, just believe!

[DM_Curt]

Where is her citation to the source for the 80% number?

We don't need evidence, Comrade, just believe!

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[Kiero]

UK official stats don't paint a flattering picture of the effectiveness of the jabs, not even when they try to obfuscate by only showing the last month: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1031157/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-44.pdf

See Table 4 as usual, the majority of deaths are double-jabbed. That proportion increases every time they release the report, almost as though they do absolutely fuck all. I mean I'm sure they would have been even dead-er if they hadn't been jabbed!

[Zelen]

Pfizer's own 6-month (actually 4-month, since Pfizer aborted it early) trial last year was falsified to suppress excess deaths in the injected cohort.

All Cause Mortality	Deaths among Injected	Deaths among Uninjected
Falsified Data	15	14
Actual Data	21	17

Data disclosed by the FDA revealed what we must assume are the true figures.

[Kiero]

Awkward: https://www.cato.org/working-paper/evidence-community-cloth-face-masking-limit-spread-sars-cov-2-critical-review#

Facemasks do fuck all. Great device for virtue signalling your compliance to authoritarians, though.

[moonsweeper]

Interesting news from the AP....

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

I am shocked that somebody has largely avoided the worst of the Covid-19 pandemic....
We should have some science and medical experts weigh in on this...
Has anybody seen Dr. Fauci offer an opinion yet?

[Kiero]

Interesting news from the AP....

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-pandemics-united-nations-fcf28a83c9352a67e50aa2172eb01a2f

I am shocked that somebody has largely avoided the worst of the Covid-19 pandemic....
We should have some science and medical experts weigh in on this...
Has anybody seen Dr. Fauci offer an opinion yet?

Could it possibly be a combination of a young population (not enough 80-somethings to be bumped off), bountiful and free vitamin D (ie sunshine) and the fact that their immune systems are used to dealing with much nastier bugs than the sniffles?

Plus they haven't fucked their immune systems with a massive rollout of an experimental mRNA therapy.