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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Reckall on October 05, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
Meanwhile, some start to sniff that in May, 2019 they were already testing for the pandemic in Hubei. The source is WION, a sort of Indian CNN in English language.


Unsurprising. Remember: cha bu duo, as applied to lab protocols.

Christ, we're lucky we didn't get Captain Trips or a fuckin' zombie plague.

Garry G

Quote from: Pat on October 05, 2021, 01:41:55 PM
Quote from: Garry G on October 05, 2021, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 05, 2021, 09:59:48 AM
Francis Collins, director of the NIH, just quit.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/francis-collins-step-down-director-national-institutes-health

This is coming on the heels of an FOIA document dump by the Intercept that implicates both Fauci and Peter Daszak in gain-of-function research, and that Collins straight up lied about NIH involvement in such.

But hey, it's all a big conspiracy theory, right?

As the canard goes, a "conspiracy theory" is just the "breaking news" six months from now.

Cool beans, now if you can just explain the conspiracy and as a Brit tell me Boris Johnsons role.
Does the conspiracy involve Boris, Bernie, and Trump exchanging hair styling tips?

It could be the barbers that are in control.

Tubesock Army

Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 06:15:11 AM
the jab does nothing. More people are being hospitalised and are dying of covid now, than a year ago when hardly anyone was jabbed.

That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?

"Forget it, Jake. It's therpgsite dot com."

Tubesock Army

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on September 28, 2021, 07:19:55 AM
Quote from: Snowman0147 on September 27, 2021, 08:30:22 PM


Here is another video.

Starting to have serious doubts about goofy stuff at Veritas. So these two are smart enough to engineer vaccines but go out on dinner with reporters, spilling their beans without a single worry of being recorded?

About the people in the latest Project Dumbass grifting video:

Brandon Schadt is (or was lol) a regional delivery lead. Not a scientist, never worked on vaccines in any capacity. At least not according to his own Facebook page.

Justin Durrant doesn't work for J&J, according to his own LinkedIn.

Not sure about Nick Karl.


Tubesock Army

One other "insider", Rahul Khandke, is a web developer in India.

FelixGamingX1

Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 06:15:11 AM
the jab does nothing. More people are being hospitalised and are dying of covid now, than a year ago when hardly anyone was jabbed.

That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?

That's a flawed logic as well. How can all these experts we supposedly depend on for knowledge about the virus fuck up so badly? Is there such a thing as an expert? Because if there were, we wouldn't still be dealing with this pandemic nearly 2 years later, would we?
American writer and programmer, since 2016.
https://knightstabletoprpg.com

HappyDaze

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on October 05, 2021, 07:51:23 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 06:15:11 AM
the jab does nothing. More people are being hospitalised and are dying of covid now, than a year ago when hardly anyone was jabbed.

That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?

That's a flawed logic as well. How can all these experts we supposedly depend on for knowledge about the virus fuck up so badly? Is there such a thing as an expert? Because if there were, we wouldn't still be dealing with this pandemic nearly 2 years later, would we?
There are a lot of moving pieces when dealing with a global pandemic, and no player gets to move all of them (not even all of the ones on their own board). Yes, there are experts. Yes, they've been wrong to varying degrees at times. Yes, they continue to adapt to the situation.  No, we shouldn't have expected this to be gone by now.

Snowman0147


Mistwell

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on October 05, 2021, 07:51:23 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: Kiero on October 05, 2021, 06:15:11 AM
the jab does nothing. More people are being hospitalised and are dying of covid now, than a year ago when hardly anyone was jabbed.

That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?

That's a flawed logic as well. How can all these experts we supposedly depend on for knowledge about the virus fuck up so badly? Is there such a thing as an expert? Because if there were, we wouldn't still be dealing with this pandemic nearly 2 years later, would we?

How did they fuck up exactly? Fastest vaccine ever, massively reduced the number of hospitalizations and deaths from the virus, moving into boosters in year two, distributing as fast as reasonably expected but hard to distribute in some third world nations. What exactly did you think they could do to make this be done faster? Certainly some policies were fucked up, and the scientists were not omniscient in predicting everything perfectly, but I would not say the scientists have "fucked this up so badly".

Regardless, he's literally arguing the vaccine is causing the virus to spread more, because the virus is bad right now. As if "things would be even worse right now without the vaccine" never entered his mind.

Pat

Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on October 05, 2021, 07:51:23 PM
That's a flawed logic as well. How can all these experts we supposedly depend on for knowledge about the virus fuck up so badly? Is there such a thing as an expert? Because if there were, we wouldn't still be dealing with this pandemic nearly 2 years later, would we?

How did they fuck up exactly? Fastest vaccine ever, massively reduced the number of hospitalizations and deaths from the virus, moving into boosters in year two, distributing as fast as reasonably expected but hard to distribute in some third world nations. What exactly did you think they could do to make this be done faster? Certainly some policies were fucked up, and the scientists were not omniscient in predicting everything perfectly, but I would not say the scientists have "fucked this up so badly".
Mussolini got the trains to run on time, so fascism was totally justified!

Kiero

Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?

Viruses evolve naturally to become more contagious, but less deadly.

The only way the opposite happens is when we're doing something wrong (ie trying to jab your way out of a "pandemic" with a leaky "vaccine").
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

FelixGamingX1

Quote from: Kiero on October 06, 2021, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?

Viruses evolve naturally to become more contagious, but less deadly.

The only way the opposite happens is when we're doing something wrong (ie trying to jab your way out of a "pandemic" with a leaky "vaccine").

Bah, you don't know that.
American writer and programmer, since 2016.
https://knightstabletoprpg.com

HappyDaze

Quote from: Kiero on October 06, 2021, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on October 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?

Viruses evolve naturally to become more contagious, but less deadly.

The only way the opposite happens is when we're doing something wrong (ie trying to jab your way out of a "pandemic" with a leaky "vaccine").
Delta is not more deadly, but it is far more infectious. The reason we are seeing an overall increase in hospitalizations and deaths is not because the virus has become more deadly, it is because far more people have been infected by it.

Zelen

I've seen a lot of contradictory data on the Delta infectiousness. The CDC came out with the graph where they (stole a NYT infographic and pasted "Delta" on top) erroneously compared it to Chickenpox, but from what I've seen in actual UK data, Delta's infectiousness is estimated to be pretty comparable to the Alpha, maybe ~25% more transmissable, but not dramatically so.

Almost any way you slice it, the data we're seeing doesn't add up to tell the story that CDC & Pharma wants to tell. Having a reasonable discussion is difficult because not only is there a lot of confusion (understandably) on data, but you have to peel back the onion on layers of lies purposefully introduced by these bad faith actors.

Kiero

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 06, 2021, 09:30:31 AM
Delta is not more deadly, but it is far more infectious.

Which I just said.

Quote from: HappyDaze on October 06, 2021, 09:30:31 AMThe reason we are seeing an overall increase in hospitalizations and deaths is not because the virus has become more deadly, it is because far more people have been infected by it.

Bollocks. Plenty of people were infected by earlier strains too. Every uptick in infections and deaths accompanied the jabbination programme.
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.