Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[FelixGamingX1]

I feel healthier than ever. In fact, in terms of comfort I recommend tommie copper over anything else. I know they won't fully protected me but at least if someone is being gross next to me I can just put mine on and feel cozy. I must emphasize I keep at least 9 feet away from most people.

Voluntarily suppressing your immune system as well. Good luck!

My immune system is superb, thanks. Not thanks to doctors, but due to a healthy balanced diet.

[Kiero]

My immune system is superb, thanks. Not thanks to doctors, but due to a healthy balanced diet.

A healthy immune system requires regular challenge. If you're not exposing yourself to other people, it isn't getting exercised enough.

[FelixGamingX1]

My immune system is superb, thanks. Not thanks to doctors, but due to a healthy balanced diet.

A healthy immune system requires regular challenge. If you're not exposing yourself to other people, it isn't getting exercised enough.

It's a big open world out there. All sorts of viruses available to pick and choose from. Covid, isn't on my list. A lot of people who made it out the first infection didn't survive the second. All these quick mutations make it unpredictable. South America got a variant that's just as bad as the Delta. I bet that will be the next super variant, and so on and on. I wish people were a little less optimistic and more realistic. We had a chance to stop Covid, and we were largely unprepared. So now we gotta roll with it. In a few years, we just might reach herd immunity.

Come to think of it, back in high school, instead of practicing fire drills all the time, we could have been taught pandemic protocol. The fact so many adults have a problem wearing a mask for no real reason is alarming.

[Kiero]

It's a big open world out there. All sorts of viruses available to pick and choose from. Covid, isn't on my list. A lot of people who made it out the first infection didn't survive the second. All these quick mutations make it unpredictable. South America got a variant that's just as bad as the Delta. I bet that will be the next super variant, and so on and on. I wish people were a little less optimistic and more realistic. We had a chance to stop Covid, and we were largely unprepared. So now we gotta roll with it. In a few years, we just might reach herd immunity.

Come to think of it, back in high school, instead of practicing fire drills all the time, we could have been taught pandemic protocol. The fact so many adults have a problem wearing a mask for no real reason is alarming.

"As bad as the Delta" - are you joking? It's mild compared to earlier strains. We have herd immunity already, because coronaviruses are endemic, which is also why you can't "stop" it. The overwhelming majority of people under 70 and without co-morbities survived just fine.

The fact that so many adults can be convinced to wear a piece of fabric or plastic over their face that does nothing at all is pretty alarming. You really need to get some proportion, this isn't the Black Death.

[HappyDaze]

It's a big open world out there. All sorts of viruses available to pick and choose from. Covid, isn't on my list. A lot of people who made it out the first infection didn't survive the second. All these quick mutations make it unpredictable. South America got a variant that's just as bad as the Delta. I bet that will be the next super variant, and so on and on. I wish people were a little less optimistic and more realistic. We had a chance to stop Covid, and we were largely unprepared. So now we gotta roll with it. In a few years, we just might reach herd immunity.

Come to think of it, back in high school, instead of practicing fire drills all the time, we could have been taught pandemic protocol. The fact so many adults have a problem wearing a mask for no real reason is alarming.

"As bad as the Delta" - are you joking? It's mild compared to earlier strains. We have herd immunity already, because coronaviruses are endemic, which is also why you can't "stop" it. The overwhelming majority of people under 70 and without co-morbities survived just fine.

The fact that so many adults can be convinced to wear a piece of fabric or plastic over their face that does nothing at all is pretty alarming. You really need to get some proportion, this isn't the Black Death.

"It isn't the Black Death." = Healthcare's Godwin.

It doesn't have to be the worst ever to be bad.

[Pat]

"It isn't the Black Death." = Healthcare's Godwin.

"You're killing grandma!" is a better candidate.

[Mistwell]

And lockdowns.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9813079/LA-restaurants-close-California-coronavirus-hospitalizations-hit-highest-point-months.html

Just to be clear, despite your article and you implying "lockdowns" in relation to LA restaurants, TWO restaurants decided on their own to close here in LA.  And I suspect that was cover for economic issues (restaurants open and close all the time - it's a volatile and difficult business, and we have tens of thousands of restaurants in LA.) So far, no lockdown.

My favorite bar just asked (on a voluntary basis) that unvaccinated customers use the outdoor tables rather than indoor ones.

I do wish we could increase our vaccination rates here. Rather than the conspiracy theory nutters like Spinachcat being the major issue here, it's more often African Americans and Hispanics who are reluctant to get the vaccine. One from distrust of Government, the other from distrust of chemicals in general, mostly.

Yeah, because African-Americans have absolutely no reason at all to distrust experimental injections pushed by the government..... [sarc/off] 

Of course they do. I was not saying or implying there is no basis for that distrust. I was stating it's because of that distrust. But it IS an issue. African Americans are dying at a higher rate than others, and in part it's because of the low vaccination rates.

[Mistwell]

I do wish we could increase our vaccination rates here. Rather than the conspiracy theory nutters like Spinachcat being the major issue here, it's more often African Americans and Hispanics who are reluctant to get the vaccine. One from distrust of Government, the other from distrust of chemicals in general, mostly.

I'm brown, I'm not "reluctant" to get vaccinated (the term itself is more NLP bollocks, implying that if only you could find the right lever, people could be persuaded). I have no interest whatsoever in a therapeutic treatment for the common fucking cold.

Don't be a buffoon. The claims of "it's just the cold" were conclusively proven false long ago. It's not just a cold. People are in fact dying at much higher rates from this than a cold or flu. It is spreading much faster than both as well. It is causing longer term damage even for people who survive it than the cold or flu. This isn't open for debate anymore. By how much is open for debate, but the fact it is worse than the cold isn't anymore.

[Shasarak]

"It isn't the Black Death." = Healthcare's Godwin.

It doesn't have to be the worst ever to be bad.

"It isnt the Nazis"

Thats not a Godwin.  I guess maybe an Anti-Godwin,

[oggsmash]

Wearing masks for me was never about making a statement. And no, I don't feel submissive in having to wear a mask in the worst of a Pandemic. It doesn't hurt my ego as a free citizen to comply with mask ordinances.

So you don't mind unnecessarily exposing yourself to the risk of bacterial pneumonia, along with the possibility of much nastier long-term harm caused by inhalation of mask fibres?

I feel healthier than ever. In fact, in terms of comfort I recommend tommie copper over anything else. I know they won't fully protected me but at least if someone is being gross next to me I can just put mine on and feel cozy. I must emphasize I keep at least 9 feet away from most people.

  Why do you not just wear a gas mask or a respirator?  As for lockdowns....how are your kids handling it with school?

[oggsmash]

So, this is Australia right now.

I find it silly how you can enter AU as a citizen, but they won't let you leave.

For the greater good of the collective citizen.  You wouldnt want to be considered selfish/racist/genocidal now would you?  because if you are out there breathing the air freely, you are dangerous.

Strange flex, at least in the US we remain largely free to decide for ourselves how we live our lives. Still think you're better off taking the vaccine and moving on past this, especially if you're in a low-resource country.

   The last year and a half should have showed you that is not as true as you and I would like for it to be.  The going narrative now is you are dangerous to your fellow citizen by simply living and being out and about.  Want to end masks?  get vaccinated.  Wait, I mean get vaccinated and wear a mask.  Wait, maybe get vaccinated, wear a mask and lets do some form of shut down non-essential business bullshit again.  Of course who is essential and who is not is a very, very, very subjective question our lords and masters will decide for us.

Well, I guess that will vary from person to person. I'm highly independent from other people outside my immediate circle. I can easily go another year on 'lockdown' and quite frankly, in some regions of the country I feel it's absolutely necessary. Wearing masks for me was never about making a statement. And no, I don't feel submissive in having to wear a mask in the worst of a Pandemic. It doesn't hurt my ego as a free citizen to comply with mask ordinances.

   i think it is great if you have a situation where you can make your living and not leave the house for a year, in all honesty, I can go the next 20 and not leave the house and make a living.  That is not great for my kids though, and the fact is "ordinances" are in fact crushing on the idea of being a free citizen, as well as lockdowns.  If this was dropping healthy people, I would have a different attitude.  I treated it seriously for a couple of months, and wore a respirator if I went out (because that is an actual protection from infection).   Maybe this does become captain tripps, right now it seems to be getting less dangerous and more contagious.  I also do not mind a bit if you wear a mask, and stay locked down.  I do mind if people start telling everyone what they have to do,  because if we are going to say people just being out breathing is selfish and dangerous, as a society it is going to go poorly from there.

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Well, the absolute Chaos is accelerating. More cock-sucking Liberals are being shot to death, or being beaten as soon as they wag their finger and start whining like bitch-Karens when someone else isn't wearing a fucking mask. This is starting to happen everywhere--in the McDonald's drive-thru's, at coffee shops, restaurants, parks, at the Walmart, even on planes. Good plan. Keep screeching and trying to control and shame people, and act like an authoritarian mommy-cunt. More of these idiots will get shot or beaten to death.

I guess it's Darwin's Law, of culling the stupid and retarded from the herd. Maybe someday these Liberal morons will learn to show other people respect, and shut their fucking mouths.

That's what our society needs. More controlling, authoritarian bitch-Karens. The more they scream and look down their arrogant, condescending noses, the more blood will flow.

It definitely is a culture thing. Where I live, everyone shows people respect, and no one opens their mouth to try and scream at or control other people. Most people don't wear masks at all here. A few people do--and that's good for them. They do themselves, and others are free to do them, too. Then again, people here are known to be armed to the teeth, and there's a good chance some moron will get blazed on for acting like a fucking jackass. That's the way it goes. "An armed society is a polite society".

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Kiero]

"It isn't the Black Death." = Healthcare's Godwin.

It doesn't have to be the worst ever to be bad.

Fortunately, it's not even bad. Good job we've got those people clearing the bodies from the streets every night, eh?

"You're killing grandma!" is a better candidate.

I've heard them all.

Don't be a buffoon. The claims of "it's just the cold" were conclusively proven false long ago. It's not just a cold. People are in fact dying at much higher rates from this than a cold or flu. It is spreading much faster than both as well. It is causing longer term damage even for people who survive it than the cold or flu. This isn't open for debate anymore. By how much is open for debate, but the fact it is worse than the cold isn't anymore.

You seem to keep forgetting you're talking to someone who's had it. It was a bad cold. I didn't require hospitalisation, or any medical attention at all. I wasn't even bedridden, even last year when I had the nastier variant. No lingering effects at all from either infection. Almost as though I'm healthy...

And go fuck yourself if you think you have the right to declare something "isn't open for debate", you don't get to decide what is and isn't allowed to be discussed.

[Kiero]

Meanwhile in Clownworld UK, they've quietly turned the NHS app into the NHS Covid Pass. But of course vaccine passports are just a "conspiracy theory". Or they were. And of course there will be robust debate and a specific law passed to enable these things...

[Ghostmaker]

Meanwhile in Clownworld UK, they've quietly turned the NHS app into the NHS Covid Pass. But of course vaccine passports are just a "conspiracy theory". Or they were. And of course there will be robust debate and a specific law passed to enable these things...

Conspiracy theory, you say?

https://dailycaller.com/2021/07/28/centers-for-disease-control-prevention-rochelle-walensky-vaccine-passes-path-forward-us/

Oh.

But hey, no more mean tweets amirite?