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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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Pat

That's an entertaining clip. Nothing we didn't know, but it's always interesting to see them say it. My favorite:

"I mean, there's no such thing as unbiased news. It just doesn't exist. There's too many agendas. There's too many people that have jobs that need to feed their families, for it to be unbiased. It's impossible. The most unbiased news is grassroots, out of people's basements with podcasts. That's the most unbiased you could probably get."

A CNNer is literally saying that alt-news is a better source of information than mainstream news.

KingCheops

Quote from: ScytheSong on April 15, 2021, 12:01:15 AM
Quote from: dkabq on April 14, 2021, 07:48:47 AM
Quote from: ScytheSong on April 13, 2021, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 13, 2021, 09:16:57 PM
Are you getting tired of seeing the Conspiracy Facts being proven correct time and time again byt the MSM?

Ah, yes. The good ol' ToryGraph, who is racking up the COVID-19 denial frequent flyer miles. Including an IPSO-forced take down and a number of lawsuits. "Just because they were infected by the coronavirus and died because their body didn't have enough oxygen, that doesn't mean they *actually* died of COVID. Just look at the comorbidities."

Also, as another point on a similar topic, when you've got all the beds in the local ICU filled by people on ventilators, the 87-year-old (who was my father) gets sent to a hospital twenty miles further on where they can actually investigate why he's been spitting up blood for the past twenty-four hours. And then he dies. My brother's church has had roughly three times the number of deaths in the past 12 months than in any other twelve month period in his twenty-plus years as their pastor. Sure, it's anecdotal, but it's part of a larger pattern that shows that people are dying who otherwise wouldn't because of the virus (not because of the lockdown like some of you idiots seem to think).

Sorry to hear of your father's passing.

Just to be clear, he died while en route to the twenty-miles further away hospital? And your claim is that he would have not died if he had been able to go to the closer hospital?

I have no doubt that deaths for 2020 were up for your brother's church. Church populations tend to skew older, and COVID has a higher mortality rate in older populations.

And the knock-on effects of lockdowns do kill people.
https://www.city-journal.org/death-and-lockdowns

My dad died at the second hospital -- where the doctors who had been following him after his stroke didn't have privileges. If he had been at the first hospital, the neurologist and the GI specialist who had been following him would have been able to see him, rather than a crew that didn't know him. It took three days, so the trip itself wasn't what killed him.

Whoa okay maybe I should stop bitching about health care here in British Columbia.  Doesn't the NHS do triage?  They'll also attempt to keep you with your doctors here if they can.  At the very least they call them up and get your history.

Pat

The CDC has finally admitted what scientists have been saying for months and months:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html (updated April 5, 2021)
COVID-19 is primarily spread through aerosolization.

Even The Atlantic is calling the fetish for cleaning surfaces "hygiene theater".
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/end-hygiene-theater/618576

This Guy

Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
Even The Atlantic is calling the fetish for cleaning surfaces "hygiene theater".
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/end-hygiene-theater/618576

Nothin surprising there, 20 years on and we're still wasting our fuckin time at airport checkpoints. We love us some performatism.
I don\'t want to play with you.

moonsweeper

Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
The CDC has finally admitted what scientists have been saying for months and months:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html (updated April 5, 2021)
COVID-19 is primarily spread through aerosolization.

Even The Atlantic is calling the fetish for cleaning surfaces "hygiene theater".
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/end-hygiene-theater/618576

Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
Even The Atlantic is calling the fetish for cleaning surfaces "hygiene theater".
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/end-hygiene-theater/618576

Nothin surprising there, 20 years on and we're still wasting our fuckin time at airport checkpoints. We love us some performatism.

...because it is all about control.

...and fear has always been the best gateway to control.
"I have a very hard time taking seriously someone who has the time and resources to protest capitalism, while walking around in Nike shoes and drinking Starbucks, while filming it on their iPhone."  --  Alderaan Crumbs

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deathknight4044

Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 07:52:00 AM
That's an entertaining clip. Nothing we didn't know, but it's always interesting to see them say it. My favorite:

"I mean, there's no such thing as unbiased news. It just doesn't exist. There's too many agendas. There's too many people that have jobs that need to feed their families, for it to be unbiased. It's impossible. The most unbiased news is grassroots, out of people's basements with podcasts. That's the most unbiased you could probably get."

A CNNer is literally saying that alt-news is a better source of information than mainstream news.

This one was recently released and it's even more damning in my opinion.


This Guy

Quote from: moonsweeper on April 15, 2021, 12:27:16 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
The CDC has finally admitted what scientists have been saying for months and months:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html (updated April 5, 2021)
COVID-19 is primarily spread through aerosolization.

Even The Atlantic is calling the fetish for cleaning surfaces "hygiene theater".
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/end-hygiene-theater/618576

Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
Even The Atlantic is calling the fetish for cleaning surfaces "hygiene theater".
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/end-hygiene-theater/618576

Nothin surprising there, 20 years on and we're still wasting our fuckin time at airport checkpoints. We love us some performatism.

...because it is all about control.

...and fear has always been the best gateway to control.

Have you considered we ought to be controlled, look at what we waste our time doing when we're not
I don\'t want to play with you.

Pat

Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 05:31:21 PM
Have you considered we ought to be controlled, look at what we waste our time doing when we're not
If we're not qualified to run our own lives, doesn't that prove, more than anything, that we're not qualified to control each other?

This Guy

Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 05:31:21 PM
Have you considered we ought to be controlled, look at what we waste our time doing when we're not
If we're not qualified to run our own lives, doesn't that prove, more than anything, that we're not qualified to control each other?

I'm using a real narrow "we" here confined to the site membership, idk about the people outside that box.
I don\'t want to play with you.

Pat

#1824
First a former director of the CDC, now CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/cnns-sanjay-gupta-supports-former-cdc-directors-informed-theory-that-covid-escaped-from-wuhan-lab/
Both believe the most likely source of COVID-19 is that it escaped from a Wuhan lab.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 06:14:11 PM
First a former director of the CDC, now CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/cnns-sanjay-gupta-supports-former-cdc-directors-informed-theory-that-covid-escaped-from-wuhan-lab/
Both believe the most likely source of COVID-19 is that it escaped from a Wuhan lab.

Those racist monsters!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Pat

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/officials-allow-only-covid-vaccinated-people-to-board-ships-evacuating-caribbean-volcanic-eruption/

A volcano in the Caribbean erupted last week. This isn't an eruption like the one in Iceland that shut down air travel in Europe a decade ago by throwing a lot of ash into the sky. No, this was a huge explosion followed by pyroclastic flows. Which, if you don't know, are superheated ash and gas that kill anyone it touches. In other words, like lava, except it travels 60-125 miles per hour. Good luck outrunning that.

So they're evacuating the island.

But only the people who had covid vaccinations.

Shame the guillotine went out of fashion as a form of neckwear for politicians.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 06:30:31 PM
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/officials-allow-only-covid-vaccinated-people-to-board-ships-evacuating-caribbean-volcanic-eruption/

A volcano in the Caribbean erupted last week. This isn't an eruption like the one in Iceland that shut down air travel in Europe a decade ago by throwing a lot of ash into the sky. No, this was a huge explosion followed by pyroclastic flows. Which, if you don't know, are superheated ash and gas that kill anyone it touches. In other words, like lava, except it travels 60-125 miles per hour. Good luck outrunning that.

So they're evacuating the island.

But only the people who had covid vaccinations.

Shame the guillotine went out of fashion as a form of neckwear for politicians.

Murderous fuckers, should be tried and condemned for crimes against humanity.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Ratman_tf

Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 06:08:59 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 05:31:21 PM
Have you considered we ought to be controlled, look at what we waste our time doing when we're not
If we're not qualified to run our own lives, doesn't that prove, more than anything, that we're not qualified to control each other?

I'm using a real narrow "we" here confined to the site membership, idk about the people outside that box.

An idealist! I don't think I have as much faith in humanity, even a small selection of it, as you do.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

This Guy

Quote from: Ratman_tf on April 15, 2021, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 06:08:59 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 15, 2021, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: This Guy on April 15, 2021, 05:31:21 PM
Have you considered we ought to be controlled, look at what we waste our time doing when we're not
If we're not qualified to run our own lives, doesn't that prove, more than anything, that we're not qualified to control each other?

I'm using a real narrow "we" here confined to the site membership, idk about the people outside that box.

An idealist! I don't think I have as much faith in humanity, even a small selection of it, as you do.

Oh no, the "we" is the bit that ought to be controlled.
I don\'t want to play with you.