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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 40080 times)

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #1425 on: January 19, 2021, 07:13:17 PM »

The ICUs still not over whelmed?

Any day now, I am sure.

For some,  it's already happened. For others it may never happen. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid, not by a long shot.
Reasonable responses to Shasarak's obvious sarcasm (easily detected by his use of black type) are a waste of time.

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« Reply #1426 on: January 19, 2021, 07:24:17 PM »

The ICUs still not over whelmed?

Any day now, I am sure.

For some,  it's already happened. For others it may never happen. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid, not by a long shot.

Except it seems like it never happened only in the fevered imagination of a few poor souls.
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« Reply #1427 on: January 20, 2021, 03:40:45 PM »

The ICUs still not over whelmed?

Any day now, I am sure.

For some,  it's already happened. For others it may never happen. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid, not by a long shot.

Except it seems like it never happened only in the fevered imagination of a few poor souls.

Maybe where you are. To be honest, it's kinda true where I am,  here the hospitals braced themselves for an overwhelming surge that never came. Neither in the first wave, nor (so far, fingers crossed)  in the second.

That's great.

Seriously, that's great, but I am capable of peeking out from my burrow and seeing that's not the case everywhere. And I don't live on a remote Pacific island, I live in mainland North America. I don't have to look very far afield to see where the whelm has become or is becoming overwhelming. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid. Peek out of your burrow for a moment.
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« Reply #1428 on: January 20, 2021, 04:18:06 PM »

The ICUs still not over whelmed?

Any day now, I am sure.

For some,  it's already happened. For others it may never happen. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid, not by a long shot.

Except it seems like it never happened only in the fevered imagination of a few poor souls.

Maybe where you are. To be honest, it's kinda true where I am,  here the hospitals braced themselves for an overwhelming surge that never came. Neither in the first wave, nor (so far, fingers crossed)  in the second.

That's great.

Seriously, that's great, but I am capable of peeking out from my burrow and seeing that's not the case everywhere. And I don't live on a remote Pacific island, I live in mainland North America. I don't have to look very far afield to see where the whelm has become or is becoming overwhelming. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid. Peek out of your burrow for a moment.

That is the point, where is the beef?
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« Reply #1429 on: January 21, 2021, 10:22:47 AM »

The ICUs still not over whelmed?

Any day now, I am sure.

For some,  it's already happened. For others it may never happen. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid, not by a long shot.

Except it seems like it never happened only in the fevered imagination of a few poor souls.

Maybe where you are. To be honest, it's kinda true where I am,  here the hospitals braced themselves for an overwhelming surge that never came. Neither in the first wave, nor (so far, fingers crossed)  in the second.

That's great.

Seriously, that's great, but I am capable of peeking out from my burrow and seeing that's not the case everywhere. And I don't live on a remote Pacific island, I live in mainland North America. I don't have to look very far afield to see where the whelm has become or is becoming overwhelming. We aren't all having the same experience of Covid. Peek out of your burrow for a moment.

That is the point, where is the beef?

Well, in the first wave when hospitals here cleared the decks for a possible surge, the "beef" was obvious in places like Milan, Guayaquil, and (closer to home) NYC.

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« Reply #1430 on: January 21, 2021, 10:38:06 AM »
While everyone was witnessing the spectacle of a demented old hair-sniffer and his knee-pad wielding running mate lying through their teeth to 'uphold the Constitution'... it seems suddenly Covid is harder to catch now.

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05

Suddenly, now you need to be presenting with symptoms and have TWO PCR-positive results.

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« Reply #1431 on: January 21, 2021, 02:33:40 PM »
That is the point, where is the beef?

Well, in the first wave when hospitals here cleared the decks for a possible surge, the "beef" was obvious in places like Milan, Guayaquil, and (closer to home) NYC.

Oh, I see.  Your evidence that there is an imminent over whelming surge is that 8 months ago there was an over whelming surge.
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« Reply #1432 on: January 21, 2021, 02:48:30 PM »
That is the point, where is the beef?

Well, in the first wave when hospitals here cleared the decks for a possible surge, the "beef" was obvious in places like Milan, Guayaquil, and (closer to home) NYC.

Oh, I see.  Your evidence that there is an imminent over whelming surge is that 8 months ago there was an over whelming surge.

Well, your assertion was that there was never an overwhelming surge, it was all only a fever dream. To wit:
Except it seems like it never happened only in the fevered imagination of a few poor souls.

Never happened? I don't think so.



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« Reply #1433 on: January 21, 2021, 02:55:23 PM »
That is the point, where is the beef?

Well, in the first wave when hospitals here cleared the decks for a possible surge, the "beef" was obvious in places like Milan, Guayaquil, and (closer to home) NYC.

Oh, I see.  Your evidence that there is an imminent over whelming surge is that 8 months ago there was an over whelming surge.

Well, your assertion was that there was never an overwhelming surge, it was all only a fever dream. To wit:
Except it seems like it never happened only in the fevered imagination of a few poor souls.

Never happened? I don't think so.

That was in reference to the over whelming surge following Thanks Giving that never happened.
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« Reply #1434 on: January 24, 2021, 07:40:50 AM »
https://torontosun.com/news/world/who-advisor-covid-19-pandemic-started-via-a-lab-leak

Looks like the official 'narrative' is about to change...

although I think my favorite quote was the humorous one at the end.

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« Reply #1435 on: January 26, 2021, 04:30:36 PM »
That is the point, where is the beef?

Well, in the first wave when hospitals here cleared the decks for a possible surge, the "beef" was obvious in places like Milan, Guayaquil, and (closer to home) NYC.

Oh, I see.  Your evidence that there is an imminent over whelming surge is that 8 months ago there was an over whelming surge.

Well, your assertion was that there was never an overwhelming surge, it was all only a fever dream. To wit:
Except it seems like it never happened only in the fevered imagination of a few poor souls.

Never happened? I don't think so.

That was in reference to the over whelming surge following Thanks Giving that never happened.

Okay. Thanks for the clarification. So "never" now means "not in the last eight weeks or so." Sounds like a kind of Gilbert & Sullivan take on the word "never," but fine, we can go with the new goalposts if you like.

So to be honest, I haven't been paying so much attention in the second wave since it has hardly happened here, but my impression is that both Montreal and Toronto in Canada, and Los Angeles and Phoenix in the US have experienced significant whelming hospital/ICU surges in this second wave that have pushed ICUs to the limits and beyond . There may be other cities with similar experience . But I'll let others with more first hand knowledge weigh in on those cases.
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« Reply #1436 on: January 26, 2021, 04:48:16 PM »
Okay. Thanks for the clarification. So "never" now means "not in the last eight weeks or so." Sounds like a kind of Gilbert & Sullivan take on the word "never," but fine, we can go with the new goalposts if you like.

So to be honest, I haven't been paying so much attention in the second wave since it has hardly happened here, but my impression is that both Montreal and Toronto in Canada, and Los Angeles and Phoenix in the US have experienced significant whelming hospital/ICU surges in this second wave that have pushed ICUs to the limits and beyond . There may be other cities with similar experience . But I'll let others with more first hand knowledge weigh in on those cases.

Whats the gestation rate of the Chinese Wuhan Virus?

And also, does Canada celebrate American Thanks Giving?
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« Reply #1437 on: January 26, 2021, 05:11:08 PM »
Okay. Thanks for the clarification. So "never" now means "not in the last eight weeks or so." Sounds like a kind of Gilbert & Sullivan take on the word "never," but fine, we can go with the new goalposts if you like.

So to be honest, I haven't been paying so much attention in the second wave since it has hardly happened here, but my impression is that both Montreal and Toronto in Canada, and Los Angeles and Phoenix in the US have experienced significant whelming hospital/ICU surges in this second wave that have pushed ICUs to the limits and beyond . There may be other cities with similar experience . But I'll let others with more first hand knowledge weigh in on those cases.

Whats the gestation rate of the Chinese Wuhan Virus?
Um. It's a virus, I don't think it literally "gestates" at all. It maybe figuratively gestates...In the sense that the infection develops over time. Where are you going with this?

And also, does Canada celebrate American Thanks Giving?
Canada celebrates Canadian Thanksgiving. Similar deal, different date. Also, interestingly, a COVID surge.

So if that's your threshold, you're saying  "never" now means "not in the last thirteen weeks or so?" Still a weird-ass definition of "never."

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« Reply #1438 on: January 26, 2021, 06:06:16 PM »
As part of the new surge of normalcy after the insurrectionist plague presidency, scientists are now suggesting we wear two masks instead of just one. Well, maybe you can get away with one if you're out in the open walking your dog, but definitely not if you're going to a supermarket.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/26/960855995/some-health-experts-suggest-double-masking-as-new-coronavirus-variants-spread

So normal. Perfectly normal.

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« Reply #1439 on: January 26, 2021, 06:09:48 PM »
Okay. Thanks for the clarification. So "never" now means "not in the last eight weeks or so." Sounds like a kind of Gilbert & Sullivan take on the word "never," but fine, we can go with the new goalposts if you like.

So to be honest, I haven't been paying so much attention in the second wave since it has hardly happened here, but my impression is that both Montreal and Toronto in Canada, and Los Angeles and Phoenix in the US have experienced significant whelming hospital/ICU surges in this second wave that have pushed ICUs to the limits and beyond . There may be other cities with similar experience . But I'll let others with more first hand knowledge weigh in on those cases.

Whats the gestation rate of the Chinese Wuhan Virus?
Um. It's a virus, I don't think it literally "gestates" at all. It maybe figuratively gestates...In the sense that the infection develops over time. Where are you going with this?

And also, does Canada celebrate American Thanks Giving?
Canada celebrates Canadian Thanksgiving. Similar deal, different date. Also, interestingly, a COVID surge.

So if that's your threshold, you're saying  "never" now means "not in the last thirteen weeks or so?" Still a weird-ass definition of "never."

You have a feeling that there is an over whelming wave of Chinese Wuhan virus crashing onto the healthcare of to be determined countries?

Well facts can not argue with feelings.
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