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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 38004 times)

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« Reply #1395 on: January 10, 2021, 07:17:44 PM »
If it was at least amusing you may have a very very small point.
It's really tedious. That's almost like amusing, right?

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« Reply #1396 on: January 10, 2021, 07:21:50 PM »
As I said, I conceded that I did not consider the question, but since the question was not relevant to my post, that is hardly surprising and not an error; I didn't consider a lot of other irrelevant questions. If we're moving to tacit admissions, I'll take this post as your concession that you have nothing; qui tacet consentit.
Then I'll take your post as a tacit admission that you were completely wrong about everything and for atonement you agree to wear a fursuit for 10 years and only speak in barks.

No, I deny your nonsensical assertion. If you made the assertion that I was wrong and I evaded discussing it, you might have a case. Still waiting for you to show the errors you assert; burden of proof is on you.

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« Reply #1397 on: January 10, 2021, 07:32:56 PM »
bark bark BARK BARK bark bark bark
You implicitly admitted it. Get in the damn fursuit.

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« Reply #1398 on: January 10, 2021, 07:54:01 PM »
No, I deny your nonsensical assertion. If you made the assertion that I was wrong and I evaded discussing it, you might have a case. Still waiting for you to show the errors you assert; burden of proof is on you.
You implicitly admitted it. Get in the damn fursuit.

Wrong again. You are looking to set the record for being wrong in one thread, aren't you?

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« Reply #1399 on: January 10, 2021, 08:24:07 PM »
ARF ARF ARF I'M WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF
Could you repeat that in pekinense?

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« Reply #1400 on: January 10, 2021, 11:35:03 PM »
Pat and rawma -- I can't even tell what you two are arguing about at this point, but I think it's probably better for both of your blood pressures to just take a break and go do something else you enjoy. I get worked up over stuff on this forum from time to time, and I find it helps a lot to take a break and have a beer or something.

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« Reply #1401 on: January 12, 2021, 09:21:38 PM »
Pat and rawma -- I can't even tell what you two are arguing about at this point, but I think it's probably better for both of your blood pressures to just take a break and go do something else you enjoy. I get worked up over stuff on this forum from time to time, and I find it helps a lot to take a break and have a beer or something.
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« Reply #1402 on: January 14, 2021, 12:12:23 PM »
This back-and-forth is so tedious that I can feel my brain attempting to revolt against reading any more of it.

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« Reply #1403 on: January 18, 2021, 09:21:44 AM »
I know people like numbers so here are some from Ohio.  We've had a complete mask mandate, where businesses are threated with shutdown by the state if they allow people w/o masks inside, for several months now.  No lockdowns recently but we are under curfew from 10pm to 5am.  According to the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation (who report the governor's press releases) update I got last Thursday:

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A county-by-county breakdown outlining the presence of COVID-19 in all of Ohio's 88 counties can be found on the Ohio Public Health Advisory System's website.  All 88 counties have a level of spread that is at least three times more than what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) considers high incidence.

Governor DeWine also discussed key measurements regarding incidence cases per 100,000 residents over two weeks, as well as regional COVID-19 ICU utilization.

"We saw new cases per capita at the statewide level increase since last week, which indicates that COVID-19 continues to spread in both urban and rural communities throughout Ohio," said Governor DeWine.

There is a pretty little info-graphic with one map showing the incidence rate and the other the ICU utilization.  The numbers show average incidence up over the previous week from 656.6 to 739.8 while ICU utilization dropped from 28.8% to 26.8%.

It looks like the highest ICU utilization is somewhere around 35-40%.  It is hard to tell because it's just one of those different shades of blue sliding scales.  It is definitely under the 50% mark though.

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« Reply #1404 on: January 18, 2021, 01:49:36 PM »
I know people like numbers so here are some from Ohio.  We've had a complete mask mandate, where businesses are threated with shutdown by the state if they allow people w/o masks inside, for several months now.  No lockdowns recently but we are under curfew from 10pm to 5am.  According to the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation (who report the governor's press releases) update I got last Thursday:

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A county-by-county breakdown outlining the presence of COVID-19 in all of Ohio's 88 counties can be found on the Ohio Public Health Advisory System's website.  All 88 counties have a level of spread that is at least three times more than what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) considers high incidence.

Governor DeWine also discussed key measurements regarding incidence cases per 100,000 residents over two weeks, as well as regional COVID-19 ICU utilization.

"We saw new cases per capita at the statewide level increase since last week, which indicates that COVID-19 continues to spread in both urban and rural communities throughout Ohio," said Governor DeWine.

There is a pretty little info-graphic with one map showing the incidence rate and the other the ICU utilization.  The numbers show average incidence up over the previous week from 656.6 to 739.8 while ICU utilization dropped from 28.8% to 26.8%.

It looks like the highest ICU utilization is somewhere around 35-40%.  It is hard to tell because it's just one of those different shades of blue sliding scales.  It is definitely under the 50% mark though.
Does it match these numbers?
https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/hospitalizations

Overall covid patient counts have been steadily but slowly dropping since the start of the year. Covid patients in the ICU and on ventilators seem fairly stable. Overall ICU utilization has been hovering around 75%, but covid patients only make up about 20%. Only about a 1/4 of ventilators are in use.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 01:51:30 PM by Pat »

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« Reply #1405 on: January 18, 2021, 02:23:13 PM »
I know people like numbers so here are some from Ohio.  We've had a complete mask mandate, where businesses are threated with shutdown by the state if they allow people w/o masks inside, for several months now.  No lockdowns recently but we are under curfew from 10pm to 5am.  According to the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation (who report the governor's press releases) update I got last Thursday:

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A county-by-county breakdown outlining the presence of COVID-19 in all of Ohio's 88 counties can be found on the Ohio Public Health Advisory System's website.  All 88 counties have a level of spread that is at least three times more than what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) considers high incidence.

Governor DeWine also discussed key measurements regarding incidence cases per 100,000 residents over two weeks, as well as regional COVID-19 ICU utilization.

"We saw new cases per capita at the statewide level increase since last week, which indicates that COVID-19 continues to spread in both urban and rural communities throughout Ohio," said Governor DeWine.

There is a pretty little info-graphic with one map showing the incidence rate and the other the ICU utilization.  The numbers show average incidence up over the previous week from 656.6 to 739.8 while ICU utilization dropped from 28.8% to 26.8%.

It looks like the highest ICU utilization is somewhere around 35-40%.  It is hard to tell because it's just one of those different shades of blue sliding scales.  It is definitely under the 50% mark though.
Does it match these numbers?
https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/hospitalizations

Overall covid patient counts have been steadily but slowly dropping since the start of the year. Covid patients in the ICU and on ventilators seem fairly stable. Overall ICU utilization has been hovering around 75%, but covid patients only make up about 20%. Only about a 1/4 of ventilators are in use.

Yes, my impression (and it is only an impression, I am not a health care professional) is that if you can keep the Covid ICU utilization under 30% then you are at least below the "highly-stressed" level. That should be a good thing.

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« Reply #1406 on: January 18, 2021, 04:03:06 PM »
I know people like numbers so here are some from Ohio.  We've had a complete mask mandate, where businesses are threated with shutdown by the state if they allow people w/o masks inside, for several months now.  No lockdowns recently but we are under curfew from 10pm to 5am.  According to the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation (who report the governor's press releases) update I got last Thursday:

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A county-by-county breakdown outlining the presence of COVID-19 in all of Ohio's 88 counties can be found on the Ohio Public Health Advisory System's website.  All 88 counties have a level of spread that is at least three times more than what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) considers high incidence.

Governor DeWine also discussed key measurements regarding incidence cases per 100,000 residents over two weeks, as well as regional COVID-19 ICU utilization.

"We saw new cases per capita at the statewide level increase since last week, which indicates that COVID-19 continues to spread in both urban and rural communities throughout Ohio," said Governor DeWine.

There is a pretty little info-graphic with one map showing the incidence rate and the other the ICU utilization.  The numbers show average incidence up over the previous week from 656.6 to 739.8 while ICU utilization dropped from 28.8% to 26.8%.

It looks like the highest ICU utilization is somewhere around 35-40%.  It is hard to tell because it's just one of those different shades of blue sliding scales.  It is definitely under the 50% mark though.
Does it match these numbers?
https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/hospitalizations

Overall covid patient counts have been steadily but slowly dropping since the start of the year. Covid patients in the ICU and on ventilators seem fairly stable. Overall ICU utilization has been hovering around 75%, but covid patients only make up about 20%. Only about a 1/4 of ventilators are in use.

Yes, my impression (and it is only an impression, I am not a health care professional) is that if you can keep the Covid ICU utilization under 30% then you are at least below the "highly-stressed" level. That should be a good thing.
I am a health care professional, and i agree that it is a good thing. There are a lot of other factors to consider too, but as far as ICU utilization goes, those are pretty good.

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« Reply #1407 on: January 18, 2021, 04:25:42 PM »
Pat and rawma -- I can't even tell what you two are arguing about at this point, but I think it's probably better for both of your blood pressures to just take a break and go do something else you enjoy. I get worked up over stuff on this forum from time to time, and I find it helps a lot to take a break and have a beer or something.

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« Reply #1408 on: January 18, 2021, 05:12:20 PM »
I know people like numbers so here are some from Ohio.  We've had a complete mask mandate, where businesses are threated with shutdown by the state if they allow people w/o masks inside, for several months now.  No lockdowns recently but we are under curfew from 10pm to 5am.  According to the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation (who report the governor's press releases) update I got last Thursday:

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A county-by-county breakdown outlining the presence of COVID-19 in all of Ohio's 88 counties can be found on the Ohio Public Health Advisory System's website.  All 88 counties have a level of spread that is at least three times more than what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) considers high incidence.

Governor DeWine also discussed key measurements regarding incidence cases per 100,000 residents over two weeks, as well as regional COVID-19 ICU utilization.

"We saw new cases per capita at the statewide level increase since last week, which indicates that COVID-19 continues to spread in both urban and rural communities throughout Ohio," said Governor DeWine.

There is a pretty little info-graphic with one map showing the incidence rate and the other the ICU utilization.  The numbers show average incidence up over the previous week from 656.6 to 739.8 while ICU utilization dropped from 28.8% to 26.8%.

It looks like the highest ICU utilization is somewhere around 35-40%.  It is hard to tell because it's just one of those different shades of blue sliding scales.  It is definitely under the 50% mark though.
Does it match these numbers?
https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/key-metrics/hospitalizations

Overall covid patient counts have been steadily but slowly dropping since the start of the year. Covid patients in the ICU and on ventilators seem fairly stable. Overall ICU utilization has been hovering around 75%, but covid patients only make up about 20%. Only about a 1/4 of ventilators are in use.

Yes, my impression (and it is only an impression, I am not a health care professional) is that if you can keep the Covid ICU utilization under 30% then you are at least below the "highly-stressed" level. That should be a good thing.
I am a health care professional, and i agree that it is a good thing. There are a lot of other factors to consider too, but as far as ICU utilization goes, those are pretty good.

Thanks. I was hoping you'd weigh in on this. You surely know more about it  than I do.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 05:17:33 PM by Zirunel »

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« Reply #1409 on: January 18, 2021, 05:39:24 PM »
I am a health care professional, and i agree that it is a good thing. There are a lot of other factors to consider too, but as far as ICU utilization goes, those are pretty good.
The problem is state-wide averages aren't a particularly useful metric. If every hospital is running at 75% capacity, that's great. But if 1/2 the hospitals are running at 100% capacity and the other 1/2 are running at 50% capacity, that's terrible. A more useful measure would be the number or percentage of hospitals exceeding various thresholds.