Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[VisionStorm]

I get it - if it can take down a healthy middle aged person, it can take you down too and that's scary so you go into denial. And you can call it an outlier all you want, but you have no way to know if that's you.

I don't give a fuck if it's me. I'm not gonna live in hysterical fear and promote the devastation of our ENTIRE society--the greatest civilization to EVER exist in the entire span of human history--out of fear of the off chance that I could possibly, MAAAAYBE, be one of these oddball cases of people that croak for no discernible reason.

I was always gonna die eventually anyways. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!

[Snowman0147]

What is the point of living if you cannot even fucking live?  Fuck mass starvation from the collapse  economy and the lynchings that will come afterwards towards the health professionals that back up the lock downs will kill more people than the virus.

[Kiero]

He was not particularly overweight. This is him:



And the 46 year old on my friend's block is the fittest woman you will ever see, perfect health, jogged literally every single day, and she's in her home on oxygen right now and has been for a week.  Only reason she is home with it and not in a hospital is because with the lack of beds they let her stay home.

The virus hits different people different ways and they don't know why. I get it - if it can take down a healthy middle aged person, it can take you down too and that's scary so you go into denial. And you can call it an outlier all you want, but you have no way to know if that's you.

Jowls and a middle age spread - and who knows how old that photo is.

You've got another anecdote for me. Wonderful. That's not data.

[Kiero]

Mike Yeadon, an actual respiratory specialist, not a mathematician: https://twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/status/1343485688088588289

Lockdowns achieved fuck all. The only things that have ever mattered are age and obesity.

[Ratman_tf]

What is the point of living if you cannot even fucking live?  Fuck mass starvation from the collapse  economy and the lynchings that will come afterwards towards the health professionals that back up the lock downs will kill more people than the virus.

The UN and various charities have expressed concerns about the financial affects of the lockdowns and economy on humanitarian efforts. Though looking at the latest Omnibus bill, apparently America still has money to fund Gender Studies in Pakistan. :/

Yeah, we're running up our debt to ludicrous levels, and devaluing the currency, and this stuff is going to hit all of us down the road. These measures have a cost, and we will pay it, and it will cost some human lives. Whether it's more devastating than the virus, well I guess we get to find out eventually.

I have the strong impression that the next generation is going to look at the extended lockdowns and arbitrary restrictions as a big 'WTF where they thinking?' moment.

[Mistwell]

What is the point of living if you cannot even fucking live?  Fuck mass starvation from the collapse  economy and the lynchings that will come afterwards towards the health professionals that back up the lock downs will kill more people than the virus.

We're talking about a mask, not cessation of all life.

I wear Green Lanter and GI Joe Cobra and Transformers masks. I wear Night Before Christmas and Los Angeles Clippers masks. I am about to make a d20 mask. WTF is the whining about masks. They're not that big a deal and sometimes I get nice compliments like, "nice to see you, Cobra Commander" (got that one from a newly elected judge).

Y'all are so weak sometimes.

[Novastar]

If it were just "wear a mask, wash your hands", I don't think anyone would be complaining.
My wife, who has hours of training in hygiene and sanitation, can't run her own business; but any one of us could walk into a Home Depot (where there's ALWAYS somebody not wearing a mask, or wearing one UNDER their nose). Decisions on "Who is essential?" seem overwhelmingly arbitrary (and based upon favorable nepotism in California).

The question becomes "When does the cure, become worse than the disease?"

[Mistwell]

If it were just "wear a mask, wash your hands", I don't think anyone would be complaining.

I promise you, Spinachcat would be complaining about how he's not going to wear a face diaper.

[Shasarak]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

In other news, somewhere in a country of 330 million someone dies.

[VisionStorm]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

In other news, somewhere in a country of 330 million someone dies.

I eagerly await the car lockdowns. Seriously, more than 38 THOUSAND deaths a year in the US? That's almost as bad as the kung flu, and it's been going on for DECADES! Don't even wanna look at fourtrax and motorcycle statistics. We need to lock down all motor transportation, STAT!

[Snowman0147]

If it were just "wear a mask, wash your hands", I don't think anyone would be complaining.
My wife, who has hours of training in hygiene and sanitation, can't run her own business; but any one of us could walk into a Home Depot (where there's ALWAYS somebody not wearing a mask, or wearing one UNDER their nose). Decisions on "Who is essential?" seem overwhelmingly arbitrary (and based upon favorable nepotism in California).

The question becomes "When does the cure, become worse than the disease?"

When people are living in Bidenvilles throughout the country because Biden will have free trade with China and raise minimum wage to fifteen dollars.

[Snowman0147]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

In other news, somewhere in a country of 330 million someone dies.

I eagerly await the car lockdowns. Seriously, more than 38 THOUSAND deaths a year in the US? That's almost as bad as the kung flu, and it's been going on for DECADES! Don't even wanna look at fourtrax and motorcycle statistics. We need to lock down all motor transportation, STAT!

Check the stats on deaths based on accidents.  I tell you they need a lock down on those.

[Mistwell]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

In other news, somewhere in a country of 330 million someone dies.

So all the people in all the hospitals right now which are well in excess of the norm is just all fake news?

[jhkim]

I eagerly await the car lockdowns. Seriously, more than 38 THOUSAND deaths a year in the US? That's almost as bad as the kung flu, and it's been going on for DECADES! Don't even wanna look at fourtrax and motorcycle statistics. We need to lock down all motor transportation, STAT!

In reality land, 340 is not considered close to 38.


My question is: if 340 thousand dead Americans isn't enough to be considered serious, what number dead would be considered serious? A million? Two million? In terms of history, this level of pandemic happens once or twice a century.

I have some sympathy for arguments that some of the measures don't have a positive effect. That's an argument over statistical measures, and we can debate over what approaches are best.

But saying "Oh, who cares if 340 thousand people die"?!? I don't get it.

[VisionStorm]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

In other news, somewhere in a country of 330 million someone dies.

So all the people in all the hospitals right now which are well in excess of the norm is just all fake news?

Which "all the hospitals"? California is not the center of the Universe. The VAST majority of "all the hospitals" are not "well in excess of the norm". I don't give a fuck about California. The entire landmass can break from the rest of the continent and sink into the Pacific for all I care.