Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[Shasarak]

You can look back through the thread for Shasarak and consolcwby who were critical of me and not of you.

Just say something that I could agree with and not the stuff that you find when you look back through the thread.

I have disagreed with Pat plenty of times.

[Kiero]

It does not, in any way, prove the vaccines will be useless. They are fairly broad spectrum vaccines due to the nature of this type of vaccine.

They'll be useless because they're completely unnecessary and as pointless as the flu "vaccine".

[Ghostmaker]

In other Covid news, Andrew 'Killer' Cuomo gets his hand slapped again for First Amendment violations.

He needs to quit while he's ahead.

[Spinachcat]

CDC says the entire USA had 27 flu cases last week.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

But make sure to wear your face diapers!!!

Oh wait, that's proven to be laughable bullshit too?
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/12/28/graph-shows-lockdowns-of-california-causing-covid-to-thrive-while-free-florida-is-far-better-off-n300807

What amazing surprises!

[jhkim]

But make sure to wear your face diapers!!!

Oh wait, that's proven to be laughable bullshit too?
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/12/28/graph-shows-lockdowns-of-california-causing-covid-to-thrive-while-free-florida-is-far-better-off-n300807

What amazing surprises!

So California is experiencing a major surge right now, and I think it's fair enough to attribute it to fatigue with the restrictions in place - particularly over Thanksgiving and Christmas. However, California's overall track record for deaths is still much better than Florida or Texas. Below is the trend of death rates over time for CA (purple), FL (green), and TX (blue).


Source: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#compare-trends_newdeathsper100k

There is a spike in the end for California where we are roughly even with Texas, but overall, we have had a lower death rate over the past 10 months. With tens of thousands of lives being lost in each state, I think that's where the rubber meets the road.

[Shasarak]

So California is experiencing a major surge right now, and I think it's fair enough to attribute it to fatigue with the restrictions in place - particularly over Thanksgiving and Christmas. However, California's overall track record for deaths is still much better than Florida or Texas. Below is the trend of death rates over time for CA (purple), FL (green), and TX (blue).

Its because California did not lock down and have a mask wearing policy.

[Mistwell]

CDC says the entire USA had 27 flu cases last week.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

But make sure to wear your face diapers!!!

1. That's not the measure of total cases in the U.S.. The CDC every year gets a random small sample to test which is used for predictions and statistical analysis every year. They had 100 in 2019 December for example. The flu is down this year by quite a bit, but it's not THAT low.

2. The masks and social distancing and sanitizing work for the flu as well as Covid-19. And because Covid-19 is so much more contagious than the flu, it makes sense it's down this year.

[HappyDaze]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

[SHARK]

Greetings!

*Sigh* It is so stupid, tragic, and monstrous that the fucking corrupt politicians--and the often equally corrupt and greedy officials and members of the medical community--just seem to love grabbing hold of the reins of tyranny and control as a response to the China virus. The hysteria drummed up by the jello-filled Media is also guilty and absolutely disgusting.

The only reason why this whole stupid virus and various responses and efforts to deal with it or avoid it have become political, is precisely because of the attitudes and behavior of the politicians, the medical officials, and the media.

Let people be free, and deal with the fucking virus how they want to deal with it. As individual citizens, and as individual communities.

It is just a fucking virus. Get over it. There is a tiny chance if someone gets it, that they will die from it. Otherwise, move the fuck on and live. It doesn't help that there are different strains of the virus, with each individual having a different physiological response to the virus. For some people, they get the virus, and a week later, they are in the hospital. A few days or a week later after that, and they are dead. Tragic, really, but also part of life. Pneumonia can kill you as well. Most people, however, do not die from Pneumonia, or the Flu--or the China virus. Many people get the China virus, experience the sniffles for a week, and are fine. This stupid virus is not the fucking Black Plague, but a trainload of people in this country certainly want to act like it is.

And--yeah, I know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'm not some cold, heartless monster. I haven't gotten the fucking China virus, yet--and I certainly don't want to get it, either. But I refuse to run around being fearful and fucking hysterical about this. And yes, it is also quite personal to me. I have a friend that had the virus, experienced the sniffles for a week, and was just fine. Something not much different than the goddamned Flu. Then, I know someone else that got the virus, and while they survived, have been wiped out for six weeks, experiencing coughing, severe and constant fatigue, loss of taste and smell, all of it. She seems to be over the worst of it, but even now still suffers from near-constant fatigue, which is still lingering on her from the virus. So, geesus, the virus isn't a fucking joke, but again, t also isn't the Black Plague. The whole society doesn't need to be locked down, and all the petty tyrants in our society get to wag their fingers and make demands on everyone, and violate people's rights, and cause millions of lives to be ruined.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Kiero]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

Outlier.

And he's overweight, so who knows what hidden co-morbidities simply hadn't been discovered yet.

[VisionStorm]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

Yes, because exceptions make the rule. And you wonder why nobody's swayed by your weak ass fallacious arguments. Also...

>no comorbidities
>guy has a fatter chin than mine

Rrrright.

[HappyDaze]

Let people be free, and deal with the fucking virus how they want to deal with it. As individual citizens, and as individual communities.

Here is a line of pure, distilled stupidity. Individual efforts are not effective in dealing with a public health crisis/concern (even most of those that try to disbelieve that Covid-19 is a "crisis" will still grudgingly acknowledge it as a "concern").

[HappyDaze]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

Yes, because exceptions make the rule. And you wonder why nobody's swayed by your weak ass fallacious arguments. Also...

>no comorbidities
>guy has a fatter chin than mine

Rrrright.

I'm taking the "no comorbidities" from the article. "Dr. G.E. Ghali, of LSU Health Shreveport, told The Advocate that Letlow didn't have any underlying health conditions that would have placed him at greater risk to COVID-19."

[SHARK]

Let people be free, and deal with the fucking virus how they want to deal with it. As individual citizens, and as individual communities.

Here is a line of pure, distilled stupidity. Individual efforts are not effective in dealing with a public health crisis/concern (even most of those that try to disbelieve that Covid-19 is a "crisis" will still grudgingly acknowledge it as a "concern").

Greetings!

Well, I don't think the China virus is a fucking "Public Health Crisis". Fuck your health crisis tyranny. Less than 1% of people that get the fucking virus die from it. Such a low fatality rate does not constitute a fucking "crisis"--and whether you or anyone else believes that it is more serious and more of a concern than that, does not justify closing the whole society and economy down, closing businesses, ruining the economy, ruining MILLIONS of people's lives because you want to live in fear and bow down to the fucking tyranny.

In the beginning, I supported a brief shutdown of society, to FLATTEN THE CURVE, so that hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.

Months later, and there's nothing but more, more tyrannical, fear mongering hysterical bullshit.

Fuck that.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Mistwell]

Hmmm... Covid kills Luke Letlow, a Republican congressman-elect in LA. He was fairly young (41) and had no comorbidities. Sniffles my ass.

https://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Louisiana-congressman-Luke-Letlow-dead-from-15835132.php

Outlier.

And he's overweight, so who knows what hidden co-morbidities simply hadn't been discovered yet.

He was not particularly overweight. This is him:



And the 46 year old on my friend's block is the fittest woman you will ever see, perfect health, jogged literally every single day, and she's in her home on oxygen right now and has been for a week.  Only reason she is home with it and not in a hospital is because with the lack of beds they let her stay home.

The virus hits different people different ways and they don't know why. I get it - if it can take down a healthy middle aged person, it can take you down too and that's scary so you go into denial. And you can call it an outlier all you want, but you have no way to know if that's you.