One conversation topic that rang true was how “save the world” is all they have left. There’s no going back from it. Kinda like how once RPG settings (and fantasy fiction generally) got hooked on cataclysms they stared happening in-setting every few years; reboot = cataclysm.
Why is environmental policy X’s implementation necessary? To save the world. Why must you remake social functions from the ground up when a new virus hits with effects within historical norms? To save humanity. What happens if we make political decisions that don’t arc towards the history forecasted as our future? Then people are heinous assholes which might need some mandatory reprogramming if they won’t come along quietly.
None of that is sane. But it’s mainstream messaging. And they can’t ever come down off that world-teetering ledge; they’re all-in. There is no way to dial back to normalcy without losing credibility forever.
I agree that the hyperbolic language is insane. My biggest issue on this forum is how many posters willfully engage in this sort of cataclysmic talk -- i.e. "The other side want to make us SLAVES to the CHINESE! They are going to DESTROY AMERICA unless we fight back!" I remember being called an antichrist just a few weeks ago. Yes, plenty of liberals engage in similar from their side - but at least among voices on this forum, all of the apocalyptic talk is coming from conservative posters.
It does seem difficult to dial back from such predictions. Unfortunately, I don't think that even the predictions failing will make people rethink and moderate. I expect that after four years of Biden, that extremist conservatives won't disavow their current apocalyptic predictions -- just like how extremist liberals have not disavowed their apocalyptic predictions after four years of Trump.
Note that even those are not global, but local.
But this is one of my beefs with you jhkim. It is not your place to say "Please don't be like the radicals of the beliefs I lean towards". It is absolutely sane, normal, and natural to put reason aside when threated by something having no reason. That's where we're at now. "Yeah but you guys are punching back and punching is bad" doesn't have the corollary attached that when someone is punching you, punching them back is OK.
Tell you what - if conservatives are still "immoderate" after the left has disarmed their rhetoric of our having to materially atone for sins of the father, let's have a conference about how to dial it back. Until then, what is most necessary is to counteract the rhetorical gaslighting - which is done...with counter-rhetoric.
Greetings!
Damn right we need to "Punch Back!" I like the visual of curb-stomping the fuck out of them when wearing a solid pair of Doc Martin boots. A big, strong boot right to their soft, fat, Reeeing asses!
Ahh, yes. Just stay in that giant pot and slowly get boiled to death, like the Frog in the Pot. No, no, there's nothing going on here. There there. *rubs back* Everyone just remain calm.
Big Tech *Censoring* American citizens that don't swallow the fucking Liberal jello--banned, de-platformed, cancelled, or called "Misinformation". Conveniently, Twitter, Facebook, and Google are all right there, aligned with the Democrats, and pushing Liberalism, BLM, Antifa, and more.
Democrat Politicians--Biden, AOC, Bernie, Buttigeg, Beto O'Roarke, and more--all wanting to raise taxes sky high; get more in bed with Globalists; cock-suck on the Communist Chinese; Bow down to the UN; Confiscate our guns; Push more Abortion; Institute political procedures which enthrone the Democrats and defraud all future elections--the "California Plan"--taking what the Democrats have done throughout the state of California to a nationwide platform; Open the borders and let MILLIONS of illegal immigrants pour into our country.
Ahh, yeah. None of that inflicts fatal damage to our Republic, and our nation. The cock-sucking Democrats all think it is just fine and dandy. And these fucking Marxist scum, these filthy, diseased rats wonder and Reee about why good Americans consider them to be traitors?
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK