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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 39126 times)

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #675 on: November 15, 2020, 09:16:11 PM »
It's important to accept that 70M-ish did vote for Harris/Biden. Why? Because they love the Nanny State and have no connection, no love, nor interest, in what made America the greatest nation in this history of the world. 
Don't confuse Tumblr with real life. Most of the people who voted for Biden did so because they don't like Trump, and want things to go back to normal. They just don't realize what that means when it comes to lockdowns, fracking, the green new deal, and critical race theory.

Perhaps four years of unchecked rioting will convince people to vote Trump 2024.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #676 on: November 15, 2020, 09:39:30 PM »
It's important to accept that 70M-ish did vote for Harris/Biden. Why? Because they love the Nanny State and have no connection, no love, nor interest, in what made America the greatest nation in this history of the world. 
Don't confuse Tumblr with real life. Most of the people who voted for Biden did so because they don't like Trump, and want things to go back to normal. They just don't realize what that means when it comes to lockdowns, fracking, the green new deal, and critical race theory.

Perhaps four years of unchecked rioting will convince people to vote Trump 2024.
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« Reply #677 on: November 16, 2020, 12:11:54 AM »
Don't confuse Tumblr with real life.

In real life, 70 million people saw the months of riots and heard their anti-American rhetoric and then voted FOR the scumbags pushing the riots and the anti-American rhetoric.

Most of the people who voted for Biden did so because they don't like Trump, and want things to go back to normal. They just don't realize what that means when it comes to lockdowns, fracking, the green new deal, and critical race theory.

Sorry Pat. I'm not buying the "poor confused little Democrat" story. Everybody has the internet in their pocket. This isn't some medieval age when the peasantry has to hope the town crier is telling the truth because there's no way to find out what's going on outside the village.

Everyone has seen the SJW bullshit on overdrive and 70M(ish) voters said GIMME MOAR OF THAT!!! Why? We can blame the 30 years of increasing indoctrination, but whether they voted out of indoctrination or whether they choose to harm America, the end result is the same.

But the culture war is FAR bigger than the election. The election is just polling numbers for each side, and no election in history has offered such a stark and opposing choices. Whether or not the 70M(ish) voters are on-board with the Harris/Biden plan doesn't matter because they loud and proud told everyone where they stand in the culture war.

The election won't shatter us. The culture war shatters us because there is no common ground, no common solutions, and increasingly, no common "reality."

BTW, Trump's legal team allegedly was "search banned" on Twitter, and the Conservative Treehouse website was deplatformed. The rallying cry on the "right" is all about abandoning Twitter for Parler, YouTube for Rumble or Bitchute all in an effort to create their own community and leaving the major Big Tech platforms behind to become their versions of RPG.net.

Where does ANY country go when the two sides of an increasing cultural divide decide to spend more time in their own echo chambers?

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« Reply #678 on: November 16, 2020, 12:24:43 AM »
Sorry Pat. I'm not buying the "poor confused little Democrat" story. Everybody has the internet in their pocket. This isn't some medieval age when the peasantry has to hope the town crier is telling the truth because there's no way to find out what's going on outside the village.
One of the biggest voting blocs in the country is the elderly, and they still get their news from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and newspapers. The majority of the rest listen to the mainstream media, or get their news fed to them from social media, where anything except the prevailing narrative has been suppressed, and they're warned away from hotbeds of alternathink.

The internet's a big place. You find what you seek, but if you're comfortable where you are, you won't realize what's out there. Never ascribe to the culture war what can safely attributed to an insulated blanket of conformity.

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« Reply #679 on: November 16, 2020, 12:37:04 AM »
Never ascribe to the culture war what can safely attributed to an insulated blanket of conformity.

The Nuremberg defense didn't work 75 years ago and it doesn't fly today.  It especially doesn't fly today when almost anything you want to discover, question or investigate requires reaching into your own pocket.

Willful ignorance is a choice.

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« Reply #680 on: November 16, 2020, 04:26:38 AM »
At absolute best, Balkanization is “peace for our time”.  The pieces of Rome didn’t play nice with each other, and neither would the pieces of North American Rome.  Welding it together again would become goal #1 of every narcissist coming to power in the next several centuries.
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« Reply #681 on: November 16, 2020, 09:05:21 AM »
Kurt Schlichter's People's Republic series is supposed to be fiction, for fuck's sake.

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« Reply #682 on: November 16, 2020, 09:12:34 AM »
Never ascribe to the culture war what can safely attributed to an insulated blanket of conformity.

The Nuremberg defense didn't work 75 years ago and it doesn't fly today.  It especially doesn't fly today when almost anything you want to discover, question or investigate requires reaching into your own pocket.

Willful ignorance is a choice.
The Numerberg defense doesn't apply, unless you think Trump is your master.

And not being familiar with a specialized piece of knowledge is not willful ignorance, it just reflects a different set of priorities. There are still a lot of people who don't give a fuck about politics, and rightfully so. High investment, little return.

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« Reply #683 on: November 16, 2020, 11:26:00 AM »
Republican Senate, thin margin in the House with threat of losing the House at the midterms, and moderate Democratic President who himself has never been big on the culture war (and who himself never supported the Green New Deal by the way). This is not a combination made for radical change of anything any time soon, and not a sign the electorate is supporting anything radical.

They just wanted Trump to shut up. Otherwise, the public mostly voted for moderation.

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« Reply #684 on: November 16, 2020, 12:16:19 PM »
Republican Senate, thin margin in the House with threat of losing the House at the midterms, and moderate Democratic President who himself has never been big on the culture war (and who himself never supported the Green New Deal by the way). This is not a combination made for radical change of anything any time soon, and not a sign the electorate is supporting anything radical.

They just wanted Trump to shut up. Otherwise, the public mostly voted for moderation.
"Moderate"

Do you just go around saying things like this because you want them to be true? Biden isn't a moderate. He really isn't much of anything, except a receptacle for Chinese money. Assuming he even knows where he is and what he's doing, which is NOT proven, thanks.

The ones you have to watch out for are his VP -- a literal political whore who took pleasure in locking up blacks -- and the possibilities for his cabinet, which include such luminaries as Beto 'We're going to take your guns' O'Rourke, the Irish Taco himself. Yeah, I'm feeling confident in the prospects for stability here.

I hope to God everyone focuses in so hard on Georgia that there's no room for chicanery and I get to hear Stacey Abrams cry some more. The best case scenario here is for the Senate to cockblock Biden and for conservatives to drag every presidential EO into court, just as the left did over the last four years.

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« Reply #685 on: November 16, 2020, 01:09:44 PM »
Well, fuck it. It looks like I'm going to get to cash in on Covid after all. Got a sweet 6-month contract to run a testing site (and possibly extended after that to juice people with a vaccine). It's short-term, but the money is good.

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« Reply #686 on: November 16, 2020, 01:21:20 PM »
... and moderate Democratic President who himself has never been big on the culture war (and who himself never supported the Green New Deal by the way)....
https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/#
Quote from: Joe Biden's own website
Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face.

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« Reply #687 on: November 16, 2020, 06:27:52 PM »
Well, fuck it. It looks like I'm going to get to cash in on Covid after all. Got a sweet 6-month contract to run a testing site (and possibly extended after that to juice people with a vaccine). It's short-term, but the money is good.

I guess it was not a hoax after all.
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« Reply #688 on: November 16, 2020, 08:22:43 PM »
... and moderate Democratic President who himself has never been big on the culture war (and who himself never supported the Green New Deal by the way)....
https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/#
Quote from: Joe Biden's own website
Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face.

Yes which all the actual Green New Deal people have rightly called a brush-off. "framework" means "We start here and then change it to something reasonable IE more towards the center".

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« Reply #689 on: November 16, 2020, 08:44:02 PM »
... and moderate Democratic President who himself has never been big on the culture war (and who himself never supported the Green New Deal by the way)....
https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/#
Quote from: Joe Biden's own website
Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face.

Yes which all the actual Green New Deal people have rightly called a brush-off. "framework" means "We start here and then change it to something reasonable IE more towards the center".
That's him, supporting the Green New Deal. Which is exactly what you said he didn't do.