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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 39910 times)

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #645 on: October 16, 2020, 03:48:33 AM »
Has anyone seen the Great Barrington Declaration from a few days ago?

https://gbdeclaration.org/

The epidemologists (not bureaucrats like Fauci) saying all along we should have not done the lockdowns. Just like Sweden, Belarus, and now Netherlands are doing.

Further protections for the oldest with this disease was the sensible path.

I don't know all the motivations or the weightings of those in our insane mainstream media but this has to be the biggest and most successful hysteria in world history.

Lockdown-lovers are already trying to discredit it by signing it with silly names and crowing about it on Twatter.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #646 on: October 26, 2020, 07:34:30 PM »
Illiniois, at least the more populated counties, is locking down again. Die, small business owners!! Should have learned to code or something.

I'm glad that other people's fear of a virus with a 99.97% survival rate for non-elderly means I don't have to commute right now but I really fear how this bodes for an authoritarian future.

It's also an example of epic goal-post moving, when before it was flatten the curve and now we are worried about case counts, many asymptomatic. I guess people really want absolutist government when they are afraid.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #647 on: October 30, 2020, 06:35:27 PM »
I just don't understand what they're afraid of.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #648 on: October 30, 2020, 07:43:01 PM »
I just don't understand what they're afraid of.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #649 on: October 30, 2020, 08:11:02 PM »
I just don't understand what they're afraid of.
That's the way most of the world felt on in September 2001. In response to an attack killing thousands, the West started wars which have since killed a couple of million people - and are still going 19 years later. 3,000 dead led to wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Mali, Syria, and so on and so forth. So you might expect 225,000 dead from a virus has some response - well, from some parts it has an hysterical overreaction, and from other parts it has no reaction at all.

The nature of Western government is that it has only two possible states: apathy and panic.

Drugs, satanic child abuse, drugs again, terrorism, pandemic, whatever - every decade or so there's a moral panic about something or other, and the government brings in a bunch of new laws and imprisons or kills a bunch of people, mostly for no real reason.
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« Reply #650 on: October 31, 2020, 08:20:44 AM »
I just don't understand what they're afraid of.
That's the way most of the world felt on in September 2001. In response to an attack killing thousands, the West started wars which have since killed a couple of million people - and are still going 19 years later. 3,000 dead led to wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Mali, Syria, and so on and so forth. So you might expect 225,000 dead from a virus has some response - well, from some parts it has an hysterical overreaction, and from other parts it has no reaction at all.

The nature of Western government is that it has only two possible states: apathy and panic.

Drugs, satanic child abuse, drugs again, terrorism, pandemic, whatever - every decade or so there's a moral panic about something or other, and the government brings in a bunch of new laws and imprisons or kills a bunch of people, mostly for no real reason.

"When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles! Scream & shout!"

We have the best panic button don't we folks? I can recall in highschool back in the 90's we had to attend rallys meant to warn us about how too much ozzy osbourne can cause suicide...I would think too little would do that instead, which is why I hold mtv responsible for curt cobains death.


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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #651 on: October 31, 2020, 04:49:48 PM »
The nature of Western government is that it has only two possible states: apathy and panic.

This isn't a unique feature of western civlizations. Fear makes people irrational and susceptible to all kinds of thing.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #652 on: November 02, 2020, 01:44:44 AM »
There's been a big surge in interest in home schooling. I don't have any direct experience, but from what I've heard, the tools for home schooling have really improved in the last few years.

This is correct. Home schooling is NEVER going to be easy. To truly succeed (doubly so if the child has special needs), it requires active and consistent parent involvement, parent discipline of themselves and their children and continuous research by the parent into the learning process.

Beyond the obvious tools like online classes and educational videos, the most interesting and powerful "new" tool is local homeschooling parents uniting in collectives where they share best practices, volunteer tutoring using their prime skills and group activities and field trips. My friend's son is in a "homeschool" soccer league! They play against other homeschool leagues and charter schools.

As much as I loathe social media, I must admit it's been a positive for this growth in homeschool collectives might not have happened without Farcebook.
My mom's been homeschooling since the '80s, and I grew up in these sorts of collectives or whatever with a sports group and various weekly classes with other homeschool kids back in the early 2000s. Perhaps these practices are new to many areas in the US, but not out here in my part of California at least. I was also involved in a few different charter schools in the area too, mainly just for the financial help with schoolbooks and supplies during high-school, which I completed by taking classes for double-credit at a local community college.

Anyway, just wanted to chime in.

As with all things parenting it's easy to get worked up and paranoid about whether one is doing a good enough job. But in my experience it doesn't take a whole heck of a lot to teach a child to a better level than they'd get in most public schools. Teach them to read and write and have them work through some textbooks every year. Give them a library card and they pretty much do the rest themselves. I've met a lot of interesting home-schooled kids who, I suspect, would not have had enough time or received enough encouragement in public school to pursue the various hobbies and projects that they learned from at home. To be fair, you do need a stay-at-home parent for home-schooling to work, and that's not for everyone.

The more difficult part is getting them out with groups of other kids, which is why it's great to hear that these sports groups, for example, are becoming more popular.

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« Reply #653 on: November 03, 2020, 02:01:22 AM »
I just don't understand what they're afraid of.
That's the way most of the world felt on in September 2001. In response to an attack killing thousands, the West started wars which have since killed a couple of million people - and are still going 19 years later. 3,000 dead led to wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Mali, Syria, and so on and so forth. So you might expect 225,000 dead from a virus has some response - well, from some parts it has an hysterical overreaction, and from other parts it has no reaction at all.

The nature of Western government is that it has only two possible states: apathy and panic.

Drugs, satanic child abuse, drugs again, terrorism, pandemic, whatever - every decade or so there's a moral panic about something or other, and the government brings in a bunch of new laws and imprisons or kills a bunch of people, mostly for no real reason.
Q: Who starts and fuels the panic?
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Q: Who reinforces the panic?
A: 501c3 'Charitable Organizations' (churches, preachers, civil advocates, NGOs, thinktanks)
Q: What is the response from the government?
A: More intrusion into the lives of the consumers( er, I mean citizens)
Q: What can be done about this?
A: Ignore or truthcheck the media, destroy the lawful concept of 501c3s NGOs and advocacy / thinktank groups, and vote non-party affiliated people into local, state, and national positions.
Or, just ask yourself: How do I escape from the hegelian dialectic infecting the West? Educate yourself before hating the greatest civilization known to man:
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« Reply #654 on: November 04, 2020, 11:19:46 AM »
I normally don't engage in heated political debates while creating a product, etc, but honestly disliked the fact I was forced to vote on paper because there was no other option. What's the difference between touching a keypad to checkout at a grocery store, or standing in line at the pet store!? The answer is, none. I see the news outlets playing with numbers that don't exist in order to favor Biden, and then there's the whole talk of taking weeks or months to find out who really won and I don't think that's how things should go.
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« Reply #655 on: November 04, 2020, 12:01:14 PM »
I normally don't engage in heated political debates while creating a product, etc, but honestly disliked the fact I was forced to vote on paper because there was no other option. What's the difference between touching a keypad to checkout at a grocery store, or standing in line at the pet store!? The answer is, none. I see the news outlets playing with numbers that don't exist in order to favor Biden, and then there's the whole talk of taking weeks or months to find out who really won and I don't think that's how things should go.
How about a thumb drive that magically delivers 300,000 votes to Biden in Michigan and Wisconsin?

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« Reply #656 on: November 04, 2020, 12:28:11 PM »
I normally don't engage in heated political debates while creating a product, etc, but honestly disliked the fact I was forced to vote on paper because there was no other option. What's the difference between touching a keypad to checkout at a grocery store, or standing in line at the pet store!? The answer is, none. I see the news outlets playing with numbers that don't exist in order to favor Biden, and then there's the whole talk of taking weeks or months to find out who really won and I don't think that's how things should go.

It's the same difference as being able to go get flowers at walmart but you're a genocidal maniac if you want to buy flowers from a locally owned flowerstore.  It's the same difference as how you can sit and eat at a restaurant but the second you stand up and don't have a mask on you're a serial killer.

This collective mass hysteria and championing of feelings over rationality is going to be the defining traits of this age and future school children reading about us in their history books will ask "Why were they all such retards?".

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« Reply #657 on: November 13, 2020, 07:22:43 PM »
Heil Fauci!!!

“I was talking with my U.K. colleagues who are saying the U.K. is similar to where we are now, because each of our countries have that independent spirit,” he said on stage. “I can understand that, but now is the time to do what you’re told.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/fauci-says-us-has-independent-spirit-but-now-is-the-time-to-do-what-youre-told.html

Hmm...how about HELL FUCKING NO, you dickless little prick?

And this my friends is the cultural divide. Those who kneel vs. those who stand.


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« Reply #658 on: November 15, 2020, 08:38:54 AM »
FWIW, a recent study by Italian medics, based on a previous screening project for pulmonary cancer which enrolled nearly 1000 sane people and examined them from September 2019 to March 2020 and conserved their blood samples, has found that several of those already exhibited Covid antigenes. 111 of those samples tested positive to serological test, and 6 of these tested positive to antigene tests, 4 of which dating to the start of October.
The conclusion of the study is that Covid was likely already circulating in Italy from summer 2019, i.e. over six months before China's official warning.

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« Reply #659 on: November 15, 2020, 09:22:37 AM »
Heil Fauci!!!

“I was talking with my U.K. colleagues who are saying the U.K. is similar to where we are now, because each of our countries have that independent spirit,” he said on stage. “I can understand that, but now is the time to do what you’re told.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/fauci-says-us-has-independent-spirit-but-now-is-the-time-to-do-what-youre-told.html

Hmm...how about HELL FUCKING NO, you dickless little prick?

And this my friends is the cultural divide. Those who kneel vs. those who stand.

Greetings!

That's right, my friend! So many people want to be slaves. They feel safe and secure on their knees, begging. They enjoy being directed, and told what to do in every aspect of life. Socialism is for people that are essentially cattle. They are fat, bloated, and lazy. They do not want to work or think. They want to be taken care of by the government. Schooling, medical care, housing, food, a monthly check. They need someone else to make decisions for them. They are weak minded, and easily manipulated by emotions and controlled. Give them food, let them fuck and breed, and they are content, like cattle. Look at how hive-minded they are, and eager they embrace groupthink. They even chant the nonsense, over and over, like a spiritual mantra. These people don't want to think for themselves. They don't want to take responsibility for themselves--that's why they embrace a victim mentality, for everything in their lives, where everything terrible or pathetic in their life is someone else's fault--never the result of their own hedonism, their own selfishness and stupidity, their own lack of discipline, common sense, and respect for others, their own poor judgment and poor choices.

Deep down, they know they are weak, and they yearn to serve a master.

Just look at the 70 million or more people that voted for Biden and Kamala.

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