Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[dkabq]

Greetings!

Yep, I said this months ago--there will never be an "END" to this virus crisis. There will never be an end to mask mandates, lockdowns, and whatever other restrictions they come up with.

When mask mandates and lockdowns end, I will remind you that you said this

Care to proffer an over/under for either of those?

In the US, my proffer is that there may be one more lockdown, likely invoked by the spread of the next variant. After that, I think that a sufficient number of people will be fed up with lockdowns that to invoke yet another would be political suicide. So my over/under is 1.5, and I am taking the over.

I think that in (D) states mask mandates will happen twice a year, in conjunction with the summer and winter case peaks. I will take 6.5 as my over/under, and I am taking the over. I am assuming that "Let's go Brandon" will go the way of the peanut farmer, and that will bring mask mandates to a halt.

I also predict that the very (D) politicians that push mask mandates will increasingly violate them (e.g. Biden, Breed, Lightfoot, Newsom). No over/under, just a freebie.

And as an additional bonus, I predict that as long as there is covid, we will be forced to get a covid vax every six months. Again, no over/under, just another freebie.

Your over/under is years, measured from today?

My bad, should have included units.

1.5 lockdowns, with me taking the over (i.e., betting on there being 2+ lockdowns in the future).

6.5 mask mandates, with me taking the over (i.e., betting on there being 7+ mask mandates in the future).

Of course, these are all state dependent. if I lived in FL, TN, or TX, I would be taking the under. But I live in a Peoples' Republic state, so I am counting on more lockdowns and mask mandates.

And starting from now.

Kinda a weird bet given it's so state dependent right? I mean, will 7 states revoke their current mask mandate and then reinstate it 1 more time? Is that how that would work? Wouldn't some just not revoke their mask mandate and that would count as 0 new mandates?

Yep; state dependent. And for my state, I am betting that our Dear Leader will cycle through 7+ mask mandates and 2+ lockdowns. What could burn me on the mask mandates is Dear Leader never ends the current mask mandate.

[Kiero]

Mask mandates will never end, they're too useful a signal of compliance.

[Kiero]

It would go a long way toward explaining this type of graph too, since the pre-2019 excess mortality in Asia and prevalence of natural immunity would effectively give us graphs like these:

What an incredible coincidence that the second surge in deaths in the EU coincides with all the vaccination programmes...

[KingCheops]

In the US, my proffer is that there may be one more lockdown, likely invoked by the spread of the next variant.

Dude there's a mid-term election in 2022.  Unless tons of people start going to jail for violating election laws there will guaranteed be a new variant late next spring/early summer that will require a lockdown and mail in voting.

[Mistwell]

It would go a long way toward explaining this type of graph too, since the pre-2019 excess mortality in Asia and prevalence of natural immunity would effectively give us graphs like these:

What an incredible coincidence that the second surge in deaths in the EU coincides with all the vaccination programmes...

You are the undisputed dumbest fucker on this message board.

[Mistwell]

Greetings!

Yep, I said this months ago--there will never be an "END" to this virus crisis. There will never be an end to mask mandates, lockdowns, and whatever other restrictions they come up with.

When mask mandates and lockdowns end, I will remind you that you said this

Care to proffer an over/under for either of those?

In the US, my proffer is that there may be one more lockdown, likely invoked by the spread of the next variant. After that, I think that a sufficient number of people will be fed up with lockdowns that to invoke yet another would be political suicide. So my over/under is 1.5, and I am taking the over.

I think that in (D) states mask mandates will happen twice a year, in conjunction with the summer and winter case peaks. I will take 6.5 as my over/under, and I am taking the over. I am assuming that "Let's go Brandon" will go the way of the peanut farmer, and that will bring mask mandates to a halt.

I also predict that the very (D) politicians that push mask mandates will increasingly violate them (e.g. Biden, Breed, Lightfoot, Newsom). No over/under, just a freebie.

And as an additional bonus, I predict that as long as there is covid, we will be forced to get a covid vax every six months. Again, no over/under, just another freebie.

Your over/under is years, measured from today?

My bad, should have included units.

1.5 lockdowns, with me taking the over (i.e., betting on there being 2+ lockdowns in the future).

6.5 mask mandates, with me taking the over (i.e., betting on there being 7+ mask mandates in the future).

Of course, these are all state dependent. if I lived in FL, TN, or TX, I would be taking the under. But I live in a Peoples' Republic state, so I am counting on more lockdowns and mask mandates.

And starting from now.

Kinda a weird bet given it's so state dependent right? I mean, will 7 states revoke their current mask mandate and then reinstate it 1 more time? Is that how that would work? Wouldn't some just not revoke their mask mandate and that would count as 0 new mandates?

Yep; state dependent. And for my state, I am betting that our Dear Leader will cycle through 7+ mask mandates and 2+ lockdowns. What could burn me on the mask mandates is Dear Leader never ends the current mask mandate.

Yeah I think you're setting yourself up for failure. Odds are any state which would institute 7 mask mandates in a year or two period would simply enact one or two instead and just make them last longer. Government bureaucracies just don't move that fast. But sure I would take the under because of that.

[Kiero]

You are the undisputed dumbest fucker on this message board.

Says the thicko mainlining the narrative...

I'm sure you'll be perfectly fine after your fifth jab.

[dkabq]

Greetings!

Yep, I said this months ago--there will never be an "END" to this virus crisis. There will never be an end to mask mandates, lockdowns, and whatever other restrictions they come up with.

When mask mandates and lockdowns end, I will remind you that you said this

Care to proffer an over/under for either of those?

In the US, my proffer is that there may be one more lockdown, likely invoked by the spread of the next variant. After that, I think that a sufficient number of people will be fed up with lockdowns that to invoke yet another would be political suicide. So my over/under is 1.5, and I am taking the over.

I think that in (D) states mask mandates will happen twice a year, in conjunction with the summer and winter case peaks. I will take 6.5 as my over/under, and I am taking the over. I am assuming that "Let's go Brandon" will go the way of the peanut farmer, and that will bring mask mandates to a halt.

I also predict that the very (D) politicians that push mask mandates will increasingly violate them (e.g. Biden, Breed, Lightfoot, Newsom). No over/under, just a freebie.

And as an additional bonus, I predict that as long as there is covid, we will be forced to get a covid vax every six months. Again, no over/under, just another freebie.

Your over/under is years, measured from today?

My bad, should have included units.

1.5 lockdowns, with me taking the over (i.e., betting on there being 2+ lockdowns in the future).

6.5 mask mandates, with me taking the over (i.e., betting on there being 7+ mask mandates in the future).

Of course, these are all state dependent. if I lived in FL, TN, or TX, I would be taking the under. But I live in a Peoples' Republic state, so I am counting on more lockdowns and mask mandates.

And starting from now.

Kinda a weird bet given it's so state dependent right? I mean, will 7 states revoke their current mask mandate and then reinstate it 1 more time? Is that how that would work? Wouldn't some just not revoke their mask mandate and that would count as 0 new mandates?

Yep; state dependent. And for my state, I am betting that our Dear Leader will cycle through 7+ mask mandates and 2+ lockdowns. What could burn me on the mask mandates is Dear Leader never ends the current mask mandate.

Yeah I think you're setting yourself up for failure. Odds are any state which would institute 7 mask mandates in a year or two period would simply enact one or two instead and just make them last longer. Government bureaucracies just don't move that fast. But sure I would take the under because of that.

And that's why it is called gambling.   

I am betting that we will keep getting new variants for the foreseeable future, and that this will result in a continuation of the summer and winter peaks in cases at effectively the same magnitude. I am also betting that the vaccine has an effectiveness* more like the influenza vaccine rather than like the measles or smallpox vaccine. Hence, rounds and rounds of mask mandates and, to a lesser extent, lockdowns.

I acknowledged that there is the potential for my Dear Leader to keep us masked indefinitely/forever. But I am betting that she won't, as that could negatively impact her chances of reelection.

* anecdotal story: Colleague of mine and his wife (both vaccinated, one with Pfizer, one with Moderna) have now had covid twice since getting vaccinated. Second case was worse. Fortunately in neither instance were they even close needing hospitalization; just laid up like they had a bad cold or the flu.

[FelixGamingX1]

You are the undisputed dumbest fucker on this message board.

Says the thicko mainlining the narrative...

I'm sure you'll be perfectly fine after your fifth jab.

Kiero, unfortunately a think everyone agrees with Mistwell. Your macho stance is incredibly fucking dumb. Just saying. If anything, I strongly believe you been jabbed.

[HappyDaze]

You are the undisputed dumbest fucker on this message board.

Says the thicko mainlining the narrative...

I'm sure you'll be perfectly fine after your fifth jab.

Kiero, unfortunately a think everyone agrees with Mistwell. Your macho stance is incredibly fucking dumb. Just saying. If anything, I strongly believe you been jabbed.

He's also got signs of possible brain damage...long Covid perhaps? Those sniffles sure have done a number on him. Now he wants others to catch it because right now, he's special and he's hoping that once everyone catches it and becomes special...you know how it goes.

[Kiero]

Kiero, unfortunately a think everyone agrees with Mistwell. Your macho stance is incredibly fucking dumb. Just saying. If anything, I strongly believe you been jabbed.

I really couldn't give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks. Fortunately, your mistaken belief that everyone is as weak-willed and compliant as you is erroneous.

He's also got signs of possible brain damage...long Covid perhaps? Those sniffles sure have done a number on him. Now he wants others to catch it because right now, he's special and he's hoping that once everyone catches it and becomes special...you know how it goes.

I don't live differently to the way I did in 2019. I'm not the one experiencing brain damage, thinking the world has somehow changed.

The sniffles did nothing out of the ordinary that any other respiratory infection did.

[HappyDaze]

Kiero, unfortunately a think everyone agrees with Mistwell. Your macho stance is incredibly fucking dumb. Just saying. If anything, I strongly believe you been jabbed.

I really couldn't give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks. Fortunately, your mistaken belief that everyone is as weak-willed and compliant as you is erroneous.

He's also got signs of possible brain damage...long Covid perhaps? Those sniffles sure have done a number on him. Now he wants others to catch it because right now, he's special and he's hoping that once everyone catches it and becomes special...you know how it goes.

I don't live differently to the way I did in 2019. I'm not the one experiencing brain damage, thinking the world has somehow changed.

The sniffles did nothing out of the ordinary that any other respiratory infection did.

I pity you, Kiero, I really do.

[Kiero]

I pity you, Kiero, I really do.

I pity you, so used to seeing sick people you have no idea what healthy is like.

Oh look, fourth jabs! This is normal: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/95280

A "booster" every six months is coming.

[HappyDaze]

I pity you, Kiero, I really do.

I pity you, so used to seeing sick people you have no idea what healthy is like.

Oh look, fourth jabs! This is normal: https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/95280

A "booster" every six months is coming.

Some things are done regularly to stay healthy, like dental cleanings... oh, wait...you're British. Never mind then.

[Kiero]

Some things are done regularly to stay healthy, like dental cleanings... oh, wait...you're British. Never mind then.

I don't have regular injections of anything, thanks. Nor am I on any kind of regular medication. That's what being healthy is, you require no routine medical interventions.

The fact that you think visiting the hygienist is analogous to being injected with something tells me how little sense of proportion you have.

What I do regularly to stay healthy is exercise, every day. And not eat crap. I don't smoke and hardly ever drink alcohol.