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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 341527 times)

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2925 on: October 15, 2021, 06:38:35 PM »
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2926 on: October 15, 2021, 06:43:00 PM »
Scottish Parliament: Making the UK Government look good since 1999

You're going to have to unpack that for me,are you saying that the Scottish Parliament are the secret masters behind the conspiracy?

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2927 on: October 15, 2021, 09:23:57 PM »
Scottish Parliament: Making the UK Government look good since 1999

You're going to have to unpack that for me,are you saying that the Scottish Parliament are the secret masters behind the conspiracy?

How can the Scottish Parliament be the secret masters?

They can not even stop the scottish white suffragette supremacists.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2928 on: October 15, 2021, 11:01:54 PM »
For what it's worth, my money has always been on an accidental/unintentional release, not a deliberate or calculated one.

Mostly because 'good enough' has been a watchword in Chinese process for a while.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2929 on: October 16, 2021, 05:21:51 PM »
How does the scam work? By this I mean who are the scammers, how are they implementing the scam and what's their endgame?

Billions pissed away on useless tests that don't work. Billions pissed away in furlough graft schemes. Billions on completely unnecessary PPE procured through mates. Billions on uncontested contracts to mates for plenty of other stuff, including £37bn magicked away on Track and Trace. And let's not forget billions on a "vaccine" that doesn't even fucking work, but they're desperate to get into everyone before the emergency use authorisation runs out. It's a massive transfer of public money into private hands on a scale no one was audacious enough to try before.

The government and their cronies know the whole thing is bullshit, but look how many idiots they have lapping it up out of their hand and complying. The fake state of emergency and gross abuses of normal due process and democracy all support the theft.

The test is the scam, the PCR test was never designed for this use, and run at 40+ cycles is worthless. The LFT is even shittier. That creates the myth of "cases" as well as supporting the bollocks of "died of any cause within 28 days of a positive test" which is then called a covid death. Even though 95%+ of the people recorded in that way died of something else entirely.

Have you seen--with your own eyes--real people die from COVID-19?  I have. If they're faking it for a scam, then these are some awesome talents.

What, the 5% or less who actually died from covid, not from some other underlying cause, or nothing related at all, you mean? I've seen the repeated Freedom of Information requests submitted to hospitals here, people killed by covid, rather than dying and happening to have "tested positive" within the last month are a tiny minority.
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« Reply #2930 on: October 16, 2021, 05:33:06 PM »
Your connecting a mix of ineptness, normal tory graft and necessary stuff into one big conspiracy. I'm focusing on the UK government because it's one we share and there's simply nothing that coordinated.

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« Reply #2931 on: October 16, 2021, 07:06:49 PM »
Your connecting a mix of ineptness, normal tory graft and necessary stuff into one big conspiracy. I'm focusing on the UK government because it's one we share and there's simply nothing that coordinated.

Uh no, this go way beyond "normal graft". Nothing on this scale has ever been pulled off. They used the sniffles to justify ripping off the Exchequer to an eye-watering amount. And it's not just "der toreez" either, they paid off every MP with a £10k bung right at the start.

If this were a real pandemic, they wouldn't dare, they'd be too busy trying to manage a genuine situation. Instead, we have an entirely fabricated situation that's easily manipulated for greatest gain.

See the G7 and many other instances of them treating it with the seriousness it deserves - none.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2932 on: October 16, 2021, 08:05:57 PM »




Some basic discussion of the revolving door of corruption involving high-ranking FDA officials profiteering by joining pharmaceutical companies.

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« Reply #2933 on: October 16, 2021, 11:46:23 PM »
Take your fucking mandates and get the fuck out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-air-lines-ceo-ditches-e2-80-98divisive-e2-80-99-covid-vaccine-mandate-marks-90-25-employee-vaccination-rate/ar-AAPxP1G

Looks like Delta Air has had enough. Can't say I'm surprised.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2934 on: October 17, 2021, 01:54:11 PM »
Take your fucking mandates and get the fuck out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-air-lines-ceo-ditches-e2-80-98divisive-e2-80-99-covid-vaccine-mandate-marks-90-25-employee-vaccination-rate/ar-AAPxP1G

Looks like Delta Air has had enough. Can't say I'm surprised.

I would be happier if there were real pushback and accountability. The employees of these mega-corporations should be suing their employers for causing them undue stress over the vaccine mandates. And they should be calling for the resignation of the executives involved. "Punch back twice as hard," as a wise man once said. Standing one's ground is not enough.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2935 on: October 17, 2021, 05:38:21 PM »




Some basic discussion of the revolving door of corruption involving high-ranking FDA officials profiteering by joining pharmaceutical companies.

Greetings!

Yeah, Zelen! They are a bunch of corrupt bastards! Hopping about from the FDA to then go and work a plush gig at a gigantic Pharmaceutical company.

Yeah, there's no corruption and fuckery going on there. ;D

Fucking corrupt scum.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2936 on: October 17, 2021, 10:31:02 PM »
In the latest instance of natural immunity from infection vastly superior to the anemic "immunity" the jabs give you: https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(21)01287-0

Yes, natural immunity is superior to vaccination immunity.

However, once you answer "immunity to what" if you're not doing a double take you're a fucking idiot.

Which we've established you are.

It's like saying you can reduce your chances of being struck by a second bolt of lightening if you just go out and get struck by a bolt of lightening to begin with. As if lightening strikes are harmless.

For some, covid is effectively harmless. If you are old and/or have multiple comorbidities, perhaps not so harmless. Young and healthy (obese ~= healthy), harmless for the vast majority.

On the other hand, the lethality of lightning is, for the most part, invariant with the respect to the attributes of the strikee.

As for trying to catch covid in order to gain natural immunity, I believe there was some discussion (in the UK?) in that regard in early 2020, but beyond that I haven't heard that proffered. But I have heard that conflated with the position of if you have already had covid, you don't need to get the vaccine (e.g., like with measles, smallpox, etc.)

Regards.

I am in favor of a policy which says if you've had covid you don't need the vaccine. But that's not the point I was replying to. He IS in fact advocating that society just get covid, deal with it, and move on. Kiero is just that guy.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2937 on: October 17, 2021, 10:34:26 PM »
Study reports Aspirin cuts severe Covid outcomes by 50%

UK Data showing that Covid (or Covid-like-illness) is more common in fully-injected individuals for most age groups.


I went to the source cited (not the asprin study - which simply concludes they didn't do a random study and one is needed - the chart). It says exactly the opposite of that twitter-spread meme. Check it for yourself.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2938 on: October 17, 2021, 10:58:05 PM »
I went to the source cited (not the asprin study - which simply concludes they didn't do a random study and one is needed - the chart). It says exactly the opposite of that twitter-spread meme. Check it for yourself.

Table 4 (p.14) has the data represented in the infographic. Are you saying that data is "exactly the opposite"?

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2939 on: October 18, 2021, 01:51:33 AM »
Your connecting a mix of ineptness, normal tory graft and necessary stuff into one big conspiracy. I'm focusing on the UK government because it's one we share and there's simply nothing that coordinated.

Uh no, this go way beyond "normal graft". Nothing on this scale has ever been pulled off. They used the sniffles to justify ripping off the Exchequer to an eye-watering amount. And it's not just "der toreez" either, they paid off every MP with a £10k bung right at the start.

If this were a real pandemic, they wouldn't dare, they'd be too busy trying to manage a genuine situation. Instead, we have an entirely fabricated situation that's easily manipulated for greatest gain.

See the G7 and many other instances of them treating it with the seriousness it deserves - none.

Naw, the extra graft and ineptness is because we have an especially corrupt and inept government due to Boris getting rid of all the competent tories.

The governments treating of the virus has been incredibly inconsistent because there's no central conspiracy. Instead there's been varying levels of taking it seriously, blind optimism and tory infighting. You count furlough as part of the scam but Rishi Sunak is also one of the peeps who pushed against lckdowns.