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Author Topic: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.  (Read 86007 times)

HappyDaze

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2565 on: September 14, 2021, 03:35:18 PM »
No, dumbass, it is the lungs. Have you looked at the x-ray images showing lung opacities from infiltrates and scarring? Are you aware that ventilation can occur without adequate respiration, especially in damaged lungs? Do you understand the reasons for PEEP?
Look, fucktard, if you want to have a discussion about this, stop with the name calling or else fuck off. The adults are talking.

Yes, the spike protein is causing damage to the lungs (and other organs). No, it is not something found in every (or even most) ICU COVID case. No, it is not something found in every ventilated COVID case.

And hey, why don't you explain PEEP to me - in your own words?
When you stop with spewing dumbass misinformation, I'll stop calling you a dumbass.

It's not my responsibility to educate you, and besides, conspiracy theory loving dumbasses here (and all over these days) systematically reject reality, so what's the point? No, my little dumbass NPC, you exist here merely for my enjoyment, so keep on dancing and thinking you're the 'adult' in the room.
'It's not my job to educate you!' yells the SJW as he demands you 'listen and believe'.
I have to hope that when they upgrade this level, this particular NPC gets some better dialogue options.
Fascist patient killer says what?
Look folks, it just T-poses and recites the same tired catchphrases over and over. It may have started as a human, but now it's just a bot.

Ghostmaker

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2566 on: September 14, 2021, 04:16:59 PM »
No, dumbass, it is the lungs. Have you looked at the x-ray images showing lung opacities from infiltrates and scarring? Are you aware that ventilation can occur without adequate respiration, especially in damaged lungs? Do you understand the reasons for PEEP?
Look, fucktard, if you want to have a discussion about this, stop with the name calling or else fuck off. The adults are talking.

Yes, the spike protein is causing damage to the lungs (and other organs). No, it is not something found in every (or even most) ICU COVID case. No, it is not something found in every ventilated COVID case.

And hey, why don't you explain PEEP to me - in your own words?
When you stop with spewing dumbass misinformation, I'll stop calling you a dumbass.

It's not my responsibility to educate you, and besides, conspiracy theory loving dumbasses here (and all over these days) systematically reject reality, so what's the point? No, my little dumbass NPC, you exist here merely for my enjoyment, so keep on dancing and thinking you're the 'adult' in the room.
'It's not my job to educate you!' yells the SJW as he demands you 'listen and believe'.
I have to hope that when they upgrade this level, this particular NPC gets some better dialogue options.
Fascist patient killer says what?
Look folks, it just T-poses and recites the same tired catchphrases over and over. It may have started as a human, but now it's just a bot.
Behold, a miracle of modern medicine: a human with neither a brain nor a spine. Are we not awestruck?

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2567 on: September 14, 2021, 04:20:21 PM »
No, dumbass, it is the lungs. Have you looked at the x-ray images showing lung opacities from infiltrates and scarring? Are you aware that ventilation can occur without adequate respiration, especially in damaged lungs? Do you understand the reasons for PEEP?
Look, fucktard, if you want to have a discussion about this, stop with the name calling or else fuck off. The adults are talking.

Yes, the spike protein is causing damage to the lungs (and other organs). No, it is not something found in every (or even most) ICU COVID case. No, it is not something found in every ventilated COVID case.

And hey, why don't you explain PEEP to me - in your own words?
When you stop with spewing dumbass misinformation, I'll stop calling you a dumbass.

It's not my responsibility to educate you, and besides, conspiracy theory loving dumbasses here (and all over these days) systematically reject reality, so what's the point? No, my little dumbass NPC, you exist here merely for my enjoyment, so keep on dancing and thinking you're the 'adult' in the room.
'It's not my job to educate you!' yells the SJW as he demands you 'listen and believe'.
I have to hope that when they upgrade this level, this particular NPC gets some better dialogue options.
Fascist patient killer says what?
Look folks, it just T-poses and recites the same tired catchphrases over and over. It may have started as a human, but now it's just a bot.
Behold, a miracle of modern medicine: a human with neither a brain nor a spine. Are we not awestruck?
Shoddy programming with this one. Likely scrap code that fell out of CP2077.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2568 on: September 14, 2021, 04:36:27 PM »
I'm not a medical doctor, and I have no opinion per se on how effective or dangerous intubation is. However, I would comment on the argument made against it:

No, intubation is actually killing people.  It is being misused and it is what is causing the spike in deaths, not COVID. If they stopped intubations tomorrow, COVID deaths would all but disappear. This may shock you to find out, but people are only dying in hospitals. Nobody is finding dead bodies in homes. They are dying in hospitals. They are dying in elder care facilities. The places where they intubate.

This argument about where people die is completely backwards. Long before covid, people who are gravely ill or injured are taken to hospitals. They don't stay at home when they are dying. That inherently means there are a lot of deaths at hospitals from a wide variety of causes.

For example, my aunt just died last week after being put on a ventilator at a hospital. She was taken to the hospital because she had collapsed on the floor and had trouble breathing. She was 77 and had a neurodegenerative disease to the point that she couldn't walk, speak, or use her right hand. That's not a death caused by the hospital. It's a death caused by her health issues, and the hospital did the best they could to save her.

By this logic, hospitals cause cancer, and gunshots, and heart attacks - because you're far more likely to find people with those problems in the hospital than in the general population. But that's obviously because people who get gunshots are overwhelmingly taken to a hospital. They don't go to the local doctor's office or stay at home.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2569 on: September 14, 2021, 05:07:49 PM »
One thing that we can say for sure, Hospitals cause Tiktoks
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2570 on: September 14, 2021, 06:25:44 PM »
One thing that we can say for sure, Hospitals cause Tiktoks
The CDC should declare it a public health emergency.

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« Reply #2571 on: September 14, 2021, 06:28:17 PM »
One thing that we can say for sure, Hospitals cause Tiktoks
The CDC should declare it a public health emergency.
   And racism, and guns.  We have a pandemic of racism and guns.  I guess Pandemic is the new terrorism.  We are at war with Pandemics.

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2572 on: September 14, 2021, 07:12:06 PM »
The irony of the Chinese-owned TikToks being an epidemic is not lost on me :D

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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2573 on: September 15, 2021, 09:47:01 PM »

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« Reply #2574 on: September 15, 2021, 10:10:52 PM »
Patronizing, relies on emotional anecdotes instead of data, draws false analogies, provides no sources, and uses misleading, unsupported, and outright false information.

Yay.


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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2575 on: September 15, 2021, 10:19:56 PM »
Remember when people injected themselves with animal viruses in order to vaccinate themselves? Good times.
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Re: Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.
« Reply #2576 on: September 15, 2021, 11:14:51 PM »
  Doctors wear masks so they do not sneeze or blow spit in your open wounds during surgery.   It has jack shit to do with viruses, it is for bacterial infections from getting a wound sneezed into or spit flying into, for which masks are great.  For the last time, if you are worried about who wears a mask, wear a respirator or a gas mask when you go out, then YOU ARE protected from viruses. 

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« Reply #2577 on: September 16, 2021, 08:04:35 AM »
Just a little more propaganda grist for the mill:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/misinformation-killed-her-bride-be-who-hesitated-get-vaccinated-dies-n1279263

Let's start with the falsehood that her getting vaccinated would have stopped her from dying. While it could have reduced the probability of her contracting covid, being hospialized, or dying (depending on the vax she took, when she took it, and what variants she was exposed to), it would not have reduced those probabilities to 0. Begs the question of would they have run the article (Bride-to-be who got vaccinated dies of covid) if she had gotten vaccinated and still died, or if she had not died (Bride-to-be who hesitated to get vaccinated gets covid and survives).

Then let's go to "Neither Wendell nor Eskew had any underlying health conditions, Eskew said." Obviously neither Eskew or the writer recognized that she was obese and/or that obesity is an underlying health condition that exacerbates covid. 

And what would a piece like this be without:
"Before she was put on the ventilator, Wendell asked doctors in the hospital if she could receive a Covid vaccination, her mother said. “It wasn’t going to do any good at that point, obviously,” Jeaneen Wendell said. “It just weighs heavy on my heart that this could have easily been avoided.”

It makes me wonder if they have a script to follow, or if these articles are written by an AI.

That said, I do believe that due to her comorbidity (obesity) she should have gotten vaccinated so as to have improved her odds.

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« Reply #2578 on: September 16, 2021, 08:09:02 AM »
  Doctors wear masks so they do not sneeze or blow spit in your open wounds during surgery.   It has jack shit to do with viruses, it is for bacterial infections from getting a wound sneezed into or spit flying into, for which masks are great.  For the last time, if you are worried about who wears a mask, wear a respirator or a gas mask when you go out, then YOU ARE protected from viruses.

This was exactly why the CDC guidance pre-covid was for health-care workers to wear masks and for the general public to not wear masks to protect against the flu. And it was exactly the rational that St. Fauci gave in correspondence and in his 60 Minutes interview for the general public to not wear masks.

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« Reply #2579 on: September 16, 2021, 05:14:26 PM »
smallpox picture
Another lesson to learn from that is just like small pox, those vaccinated for the Wuhan flu can also spread the Wuhan flu.

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