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Spinachcat:

--- Quote from: KingCheops;1132561 ---That being said I totally regret questioning Sweden's approach and getting exasperated at all the usual Swedophiles talking about how wonderful they are.  In this particular case -- they were right!
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Sweden smelled the sham, but why everyone else drank the KungFlu Kool-Aid might never be known or understood. The amount of coordinated ignorance in lockstep is stunning, as are the continued laughable lockdowns.

The next step in this dance will be interesting.
Will the protests be blamed for "a huge spike" (LOL) that requires the lockdowns to continue?
And if so, how do they "blame, yet not blame, because blame would be racist"?
Will the new story be "protests didn't cause any cases, but we must stay in lockdown because...reasons"?

rgalex:

--- Quote from: Spinachcat;1132603 ---Sweden smelled the sham, but why everyone else drank the KungFlu Kool-Aid might never be known or understood. The amount of coordinated ignorance in lockstep is stunning, as are the continued laughable lockdowns.

The next step in this dance will be interesting.
Will the protests be blamed for "a huge spike" (LOL) that requires the lockdowns to continue?
And if so, how do they "blame, yet not blame, because blame would be racist"?
Will the new story be "protests didn't cause any cases, but we must stay in lockdown because...reasons"?
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They are way ahead of you.


--- Quote ---Mark D. Levine @MarkLevineNYC (Chair of New York City Council health committee. Representing District 7, Uptown Manhattan (Washington Heights, West Harlem, UWS).

Jun 3
Let's be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don't blame the protesters.

Blame racism.

And let's remember that the police are increasing covid risk by:
* using tear gas
* herding demonstrators into tight spaces
* putting people in crowded jails

--- End quote ---

KingCheops:
Lol well Statista just released some numbers comparing Sweden to Norway/Denmark so I'm back to questioning.  I guess we'd need to see Lockdown Deaths + Kung Flu Deaths versus each other but I don't think that'll ever happen.  To hard to sort signal from noise.

Apart from being in a cushy white-collar job where I can work from home and being a lazy bastard who didn't want to have to commute to work anymore I was on the "this is all overblown and just a bad seasonal flu" from the get go.  I'd been on the "what about the other 80% of people who are getting crushed" from the get go.  Really pissed my wife off because she got fully on board with the media fear monger (despite teasing me in January for stocking up on emergency food).

jhkim:

--- Quote from: KingCheops;1132663 ---Lol well Statista just released some numbers comparing Sweden to Norway/Denmark so I'm back to questioning.  I guess we'd need to see Lockdown Deaths + Kung Flu Deaths versus each other but I don't think that'll ever happen.  To hard to sort signal from noise.

Apart from being in a cushy white-collar job where I can work from home and being a lazy bastard who didn't want to have to commute to work anymore I was on the "this is all overblown and just a bad seasonal flu" from the get go.  I'd been on the "what about the other 80% of people who are getting crushed" from the get go.  Really pissed my wife off because she got fully on board with the media fear monger (despite teasing me in January for stocking up on emergency food).
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Yeah, I think questioning is good. According to Pat, the answers are known and further, your wife is participating in genocide. I consider that over-the-top ridiculous. There's a lot of controversy over the infection rate in Sweden, but I think the more telling issue is what's happening with the economy.

So here's recent financial news in Scandinavia:


--- Quote ---The Norwegian economy contracted 4.7% in April from March but the outlook for the rest of the year now looks less bleak than it did in late April, Statistics Norway (SSB) said on Friday.

The mainland economy, which excludes the volatile offshore oil and gas production, is now forecast to drop 3.9% for the full year compared to the 5.5% fall predicted on April 24 when Norway was in lockdown to halt the novel coronavirus outbreak.
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Source: https://business.financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/norways-april-gdp-falls-4-7-outlook-seen-less-dire-2


--- Quote ---Sweden's highly contested response to Covid-19 left much of the economy open. Even so, the country is now headed for its worst recession since World War II.

Scandinavia's biggest economy will shrink 7% this year, Finance Minister Magdalena Andersson said on Tuesday. Shortly after she spoke, the debt office revealed an historic 30-fold spike in borrowing to cover emergency spending amid record job losses. A separate survey showed 40% of businesses in Sweden's service sector now fear bankruptcy.
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Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-19/sweden-in-very-deep-economic-crisis-despite-soft-lockdown

This doesn't mean that Sweden's approach was wrong -- quite possibly they'd be worse off if they had implemented a lockdown like Norway. Different economies are different. But it's one data point against the narrative that the economies would have been fine if only we hadn't had lockdowns.

DocJones:
Target just announced early looting hours for seniors.

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