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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #345 on: September 27, 2021, 06:15:47 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in. Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

Greetings!

Yeah, we should let several hundred thousand Aghan refugees immigrate to Italy. Why stop there, though? Let a million and more Afghans pour into Italy. Italy can house them, feed them, and support them in every way. For *years*.

Why not? After all the war in Afghanistan was initiated, fought and ended by us and us alone. Isn't it? 😂
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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #346 on: September 27, 2021, 06:57:14 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in. Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

Greetings!

Yeah, we should let several hundred thousand Aghan refugees immigrate to Italy. Why stop there, though? Let a million and more Afghans pour into Italy. Italy can house them, feed them, and support them in every way. For *years*.

Why not? After all the war in Afghanistan was initiated, fought and ended by us and us alone. Isn't it? 😂

Greetings!

Right right, Reckall. I know. I'm not a fan of how we fucked up the Afghanistan campaign, I'd say since 2004 or 2005 it's been one clusterfuck of corruption, competing egos, careerism, self-promotion, and incompetence ever since. An absolute cascade of never-ending stupidity.

I'm also not a fan though of just opening the gates to anyone and everyone from Afghanistan. A few of them, and their families--the various people that actually worked and fought alongside our soldiers and Marines. THEY are welcome to get shipped over here, for a new life. I'd even support some kind of "Helping Bill" to provide them with some money and assistance in getting squared away here in America. The scum? The kiddie-fuckers? The criminals, hangers-on, and terrorists? Various flavours of smarmy cowards? Fuck no.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #347 on: September 27, 2021, 09:45:13 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in. Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

Greetings!

Yeah, we should let several hundred thousand Aghan refugees immigrate to Italy. Why stop there, though? Let a million and more Afghans pour into Italy. Italy can house them, feed them, and support them in every way. For *years*.

Why not? After all the war in Afghanistan was initiated, fought and ended by us and us alone. Isn't it? 😂
And, as a bonus, it'll go a long way in invigorating the bloodlines of the Italian people.  Let's face it, between the mass emigration of the early 20th century and that absolute ass-whooping of the Italians by both sides of the conflict in WW2, there's not much cultural or societal vigor left.  Italy took a huge hit from Covid because their population is older and frail.  Honestly, no one even thinks about Italy unless they need to film a movie or TV series about ancient Rome.  Italy is pretty much irrelevant.  And infusion of young, vigorous, Afghani blood might do wonders for the population.  At least it has a chance to spark an old, dead, irrelevant culture into something perhaps more lively.  So, yeah, more migrants to Italy!

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #348 on: September 28, 2021, 03:31:58 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in. Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

Greetings!

Yeah, we should let several hundred thousand Aghan refugees immigrate to Italy. Why stop there, though? Let a million and more Afghans pour into Italy. Italy can house them, feed them, and support them in every way. For *years*.

Why not? After all the war in Afghanistan was initiated, fought and ended by us and us alone. Isn't it? 😂
And, as a bonus, it'll go a long way in invigorating the bloodlines of the Italian people.  Let's face it, between the mass emigration of the early 20th century and that absolute ass-whooping of the Italians by both sides of the conflict in WW2, there's not much cultural or societal vigor left.  Italy took a huge hit from Covid because their population is older and frail.  Honestly, no one even thinks about Italy unless they need to film a movie or TV series about ancient Rome.  Italy is pretty much irrelevant.  And infusion of young, vigorous, Afghani blood might do wonders for the population.  At least it has a chance to spark an old, dead, irrelevant culture into something perhaps more lively.  So, yeah, more migrants to Italy!

Sure, sure (pats the head). As a trolling effort you manage a C- Not bad. Here is a candy :)
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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #349 on: September 28, 2021, 07:44:30 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

You government "lets in fuckups from the world over" since before it was a government. Have you ever studied North American history?

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Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in.

They are already doing that. For now, they are on the fence about gun shooting spree Americans.

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Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

You are welcome. :) We pulled out without fuckups, BTW.

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Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

You mean that you took Afghanistan from the Taliban, invested trillions of dollars in the country that they didn't have and then gave it back to them? For real? Wow... :o

Dude you think you're owning me but you're not.

1. Yes my shitty government lets fuckups from the world over to enter. Most notably, 12,000 Haitians who had been living comfortably in Chile and other South American countries. I utterly despise this.

2. Why would any nation let in a spree shooter?

3. Yeah, you left without a massive disaster, great. Italy was still part of the NATO mission and bears guilt. You were still part of the hated foreign invaders.

4. Italy was part of this stupid, wasteful spending in Afghanistan as well. Of course not on nearly so great a scale.

You seem to think we conservatives are pro-Afghan war. Not in any way shape or form.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #350 on: September 28, 2021, 08:09:29 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

You government "lets in fuckups from the world over" since before it was a government. Have you ever studied North American history?

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Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in.

They are already doing that. For now, they are on the fence about gun shooting spree Americans.

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Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

You are welcome. :) We pulled out without fuckups, BTW.

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Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

You mean that you took Afghanistan from the Taliban, invested trillions of dollars in the country that they didn't have and then gave it back to them? For real? Wow... :o

Dude you think you're owning me but you're not.

Not the best opening.
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1. Yes my shitty government lets fuckups from the world over to enter. Most notably, 12,000 Haitians who had been living comfortably in Chile and other South American countries. I utterly despise this.

Don't forget Europeans.

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2. Why would any nation let in a spree shooter?

You mean that not all Americans are spree shooters the way not all Afghani are rapists? I learn this only now :o

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3. Yeah, you left without a massive disaster, great. Italy was still part of the NATO mission and bears guilt. You were still part of the hated foreign invaders.

Amen to that. Next time it will be better not to follow the "World's policemen".

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4. Italy was part of this stupid, wasteful spending in Afghanistan as well. Of course not on nearly so great a scale.

We took an oath of allegiance and we did our duty as a NATO country. If you think that it was wrong, then next time don't invoke Article 5 before going in.

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You seem to think we conservatives are pro-Afghan war. Not in any way shape or form.

What I think about "you conservatives" is that since a few years you do seem to be a very confused people. In all fairness, the other side of the aisle doesn't seem much better.
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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #351 on: September 28, 2021, 10:26:52 AM »
Greetings!

Hey there, hold on, now. Italy isn't *guilty* of anything--and the Italians  aren't stupid or wrong for following us into danger. FRIENDS stand by each other, right or wrong. Especially when the shooting starts. And yeah, you also support and stand by your friend, even when you think they have made a mistake or are wrong. You still don't turn your back on them, and you jump in and help them.

America doesn't always do the best thing or the smart thing. It is good to remember that we are friends with Britain, Italy, and some of those other little European countries. America has helped them in the past, as well as currently.

Semper Fidelis,

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #352 on: September 28, 2021, 10:32:40 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in. Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

Greetings!

Yeah, we should let several hundred thousand Aghan refugees immigrate to Italy. Why stop there, though? Let a million and more Afghans pour into Italy. Italy can house them, feed them, and support them in every way. For *years*.

Why not? After all the war in Afghanistan was initiated, fought and ended by us and us alone. Isn't it? 😂
And, as a bonus, it'll go a long way in invigorating the bloodlines of the Italian people.  Let's face it, between the mass emigration of the early 20th century and that absolute ass-whooping of the Italians by both sides of the conflict in WW2, there's not much cultural or societal vigor left.  Italy took a huge hit from Covid because their population is older and frail.  Honestly, no one even thinks about Italy unless they need to film a movie or TV series about ancient Rome.  Italy is pretty much irrelevant.  And infusion of young, vigorous, Afghani blood might do wonders for the population.  At least it has a chance to spark an old, dead, irrelevant culture into something perhaps more lively.  So, yeah, more migrants to Italy!

Greetings!

INVIGORATE the Italian population! *Laughing* You know, over there in Italy they are having a fertility crisis. They aren't fucking enough, and having enough babies*. So, I suppose having hordes of young, virile Afghan men around will help change things around in Italy! ;D

*WTF? I thought Italian girls loved to fuck and have lots of kids? What the fuck is wrong with the Italian women?

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #353 on: September 28, 2021, 01:14:44 PM »
CENTCOM General McKenzie testified to Congress today that he warned Biden that Afghanistan would collapse and recommended leaving a small force to stabilize it.

This is in direct contradiction to Biden's repeated assertions that he 'can't recall' anyone telling him that.

But hey, no more mean tweets, right?

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #354 on: September 28, 2021, 01:23:10 PM »
I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #355 on: September 28, 2021, 01:26:34 PM »
I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #356 on: September 28, 2021, 01:47:08 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

You government "lets in fuckups from the world over" since before it was a government. Have you ever studied North American history?

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Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in.

They are already doing that. For now, they are on the fence about gun shooting spree Americans.

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Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

You are welcome. :) We pulled out without fuckups, BTW.

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Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

You mean that you took Afghanistan from the Taliban, invested trillions of dollars in the country that they didn't have and then gave it back to them? For real? Wow... :o

Dude you think you're owning me but you're not.

Not the best opening.
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1. Yes my shitty government lets fuckups from the world over to enter. Most notably, 12,000 Haitians who had been living comfortably in Chile and other South American countries. I utterly despise this.

Don't forget Europeans.

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2. Why would any nation let in a spree shooter?

You mean that not all Americans are spree shooters the way not all Afghani are rapists? I learn this only now :o

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3. Yeah, you left without a massive disaster, great. Italy was still part of the NATO mission and bears guilt. You were still part of the hated foreign invaders.

Amen to that. Next time it will be better not to follow the "World's policemen".

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4. Italy was part of this stupid, wasteful spending in Afghanistan as well. Of course not on nearly so great a scale.

We took an oath of allegiance and we did our duty as a NATO country. If you think that it was wrong, then next time don't invoke Article 5 before going in.

Quote
You seem to think we conservatives are pro-Afghan war. Not in any way shape or form.

What I think about "you conservatives" is that since a few years you do seem to be a very confused people. In all fairness, the other side of the aisle doesn't seem much better.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

You government "lets in fuckups from the world over" since before it was a government. Have you ever studied North American history?

Quote
Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in.

They are already doing that. For now, they are on the fence about gun shooting spree Americans.

Quote
Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

You are welcome. :) We pulled out without fuckups, BTW.

Quote
Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

You mean that you took Afghanistan from the Taliban, invested trillions of dollars in the country that they didn't have and then gave it back to them? For real? Wow... :o

Dude you think you're owning me but you're not.

Not the best opening.
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1. Yes my shitty government lets fuckups from the world over to enter. Most notably, 12,000 Haitians who had been living comfortably in Chile and other South American countries. I utterly despise this.

Don't forget Europeans.

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2. Why would any nation let in a spree shooter?

You mean that not all Americans are spree shooters the way not all Afghani are rapists? I learn this only now :o

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3. Yeah, you left without a massive disaster, great. Italy was still part of the NATO mission and bears guilt. You were still part of the hated foreign invaders.

Amen to that. Next time it will be better not to follow the "World's policemen".

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4. Italy was part of this stupid, wasteful spending in Afghanistan as well. Of course not on nearly so great a scale.

We took an oath of allegiance and we did our duty as a NATO country. If you think that it was wrong, then next time don't invoke Article 5 before going in.

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You seem to think we conservatives are pro-Afghan war. Not in any way shape or form.

What I think about "you conservatives" is that since a few years you do seem to be a very confused people. In all fairness, the other side of the aisle doesn't seem much better.

There are thousands of Europeans camped out at the border? Who knew.

Also, it's Afghan, not Afghani. Afghani is their money. One would thing someone as worldly as you would know this.

You're confusing conservatives for neo-conservatives. Neocons are the ones that got us in this garbage and drug along NATO. Actual conservatives have always been against this crap.

As to the rapey Afghan problem, the original claim was that they haven't committed any crimes, they were simply yearning for freedom, and there have been documented cases of rape/sexual assault. This is only the stuff they've been caught for. If there were masses of Americans illegally going into Italy and a number of spree shooters were amongst them, you'd have a point.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #357 on: September 28, 2021, 09:05:03 PM »
I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

   I am sure they all expected it, and are now engaging in pre planned political theatre.  Generals are more political than actual politicians. 

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #358 on: September 28, 2021, 09:33:03 PM »
I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

   I am sure they all expected it, and are now engaging in pre planned political theatre.  Generals are more political than actual politicians.
I don't think they expected things to come unglued like this. And it lends credence to the theory that there's a behind-the-scenes civil war going on between various factions of the regime.

Anyone heard from Heels-Up recently?

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #359 on: September 29, 2021, 12:10:06 AM »
I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

   I am sure they all expected it, and are now engaging in pre planned political theatre.  Generals are more political than actual politicians.
I don't think they expected things to come unglued like this. And it lends credence to the theory that there's a behind-the-scenes civil war going on between various factions of the regime.

Anyone heard from Heels-Up recently?

I think she commented on the border horse "controversey". Then slunk back into whatever hole she hides in.
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