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Author Topic: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!  (Read 31216 times)

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2021, 04:56:39 PM »
I never liked Trump and I don't like the current batch of Republicans (not their majority at least) but what just happened in Afghanistan is indefensible. Some images from this debacle are already forever burned in the collective conscious.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2021, 05:23:30 PM »
The Taliban have put out a statement that they value women and are committed to their rights.
This is deeply retarded. You don't fight grueling guerilla warfare and make death lists for collaborators if you are a great believer in human rights. Like if it turns out they actually just wanted to bring sunshine and rainbows to Afganistan, then sure.
I just find that EXTREMLY unlikely.

And much more likely that their media personalities are blowing hot smoke to the western reporter class that they know will say whatever they want them to say because they hate their home countries more then they hate them.
It's not about respect for human rights, it's about their desire to be accepted as a legitimate state.

  Or...just fucking lying and people just forgetting about it, because if human rights to recognized as a legitimate state is that big an issue there is a loooong list we can start scratching people off of.   One of the tenants of Islam allows the use of deception when outnumbered, and there is NO version of women's rights that is compatible with Sharia that is also fully compatible with the USA version of human rights.  That said, let the Taliban do them, and we do us. 

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2021, 05:44:36 PM »
Greetings!

Indeed, the arrogant, smug, condescending Liberals just have to suck it down that people do not agree with them, and staunchly reject them, and the entire Liberal agenda and world view. In many places, they are also quite prepared to kill you. In many, many places around the world, Americans--especially Liberal Americans--must get used to the idea that in such foreign countries, THEY SET THE FUCKING RULES--NOT YOU. That's just reality and common sense.

But we know how delusional Liberals are, and how they have sobbing, hissy-fits when other people don't embrace their values and world view, and tell them to get fucked. Especially at the business-end of a rifle.

Oh well. That's the way it goes.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2021, 05:47:30 PM »
If I was the Americans now, I'd definitely keep the troops out of these places (as they really don't want or like westerners) and spend that two trillion dollars on homeland security. Of course you've still got options for spec ops and drone sticks on strategic terrorist leaders or training camps.

As I understand it, part of the reason for the bases in Afghanistan was to provide a forward base for drone strikes and spec ops against terrorist targets.
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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2021, 06:01:46 PM »
The Taliban have put out a statement that they value women and are committed to their rights.
This is deeply retarded. You don't fight grueling guerilla warfare and make death lists for collaborators if you are a great believer in human rights. Like if it turns out they actually just wanted to bring sunshine and rainbows to Afganistan, then sure.
I just find that EXTREMLY unlikely.

And much more likely that their media personalities are blowing hot smoke to the western reporter class that they know will say whatever they want them to say because they hate their home countries more then they hate them.
It's not about respect for human rights, it's about their desire to be accepted as a legitimate state.

  Or...just fucking lying and people just forgetting about it, because if human rights to recognized as a legitimate state is that big an issue there is a loooong list we can start scratching people off of.   One of the tenants of Islam allows the use of deception when outnumbered, and there is NO version of women's rights that is compatible with Sharia that is also fully compatible with the USA version of human rights.  That said, let the Taliban do them, and we do us.
We'll have to see. I'm rather skeptical, myself. But it's a remarkable change in tone, so there's at least some hope.

And we're not talking full US human rights, here. That's absurd. But something better than c. 2000 Taliban repression would be a good thing.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2021, 06:03:38 PM »
The Taliban have put out a statement that they value women and are committed to their rights.
This is deeply retarded. You don't fight grueling guerilla warfare and make death lists for collaborators if you are a great believer in human rights. Like if it turns out they actually just wanted to bring sunshine and rainbows to Afganistan, then sure.
I just find that EXTREMLY unlikely.

And much more likely that their media personalities are blowing hot smoke to the western reporter class that they know will say whatever they want them to say because they hate their home countries more then they hate them.



What's retarded is to think any of this has to do with human rights, women's liberation or any of that crap. It's just propaganda for the idiotic masses who think America has the obligation/right to police the world. No sane government/cabal would spend millions on ensuring people on the other side of the world get better standards of living or have access to liberal values. How anyone believes that America (or any other government for that matter) gives a crap about human rights, democracy or western values is beyond me. America had no issues with imposing dictators or work with them. Hell, they even fought side by side with the USSR.

My question still stands; What is the official explanation as to why they are there?

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2021, 06:55:15 PM »
It's not about respect for human rights, it's about their desire to be accepted as a legitimate state.
Their neihbors don't care about liberal rights. Only the west does whos ass they kicked so hard that its underpants is now in a bootmark print.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2021, 06:57:22 PM »
For those interested in the naval situation and who are still on twitter I'd recommend checking out Man Integrated/The Huntsman.  He's one of the ones I missed when I removed myself from that shithole.  He has really good threads and white paper links on naval/logistical issues.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #83 on: August 17, 2021, 09:21:57 PM »
It's astounding how the ruling class is able to pivot a tremendous loss -- Losing a 20 year war, with tens of thousands of casualties, trillions of dollars wasted, billions of dollars of military hardware lost to the enemy -- And turn it into an even bigger nightmare by immediately pivoting from their colossal failure to demanding that the US accept tens of thousands of Afghans into the US, without doing a damned thing to check if the people they are flying over at a tremendous cost of $500 million dollars are terrorists or not.

And after they fly them over here the culturally incompatible Afghan refugees overwhelmingly become wards of the state and a further drain on US society. None of the "experts" think it might be a better idea to relocate to any number of other regions like Pakistan, India, Saudi Arabia, or any other location that's closer and a better fit for the lifestyle and skills they have.

Sincerely wish we could airlift some useless politicians and NGO shitheads into Afghanistan right now.

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« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2021, 10:03:43 PM »
This was a planned failure. I'm just surprised it took this long.

The "refugee" crisis in Europe was in large part by meddling with countries to the point where this had to happen. The trouble this has caused in those countries is obvious.

Now- look at what's going to happen in this country because of Afghanistan-failure. Just like in Europe.

We are dealing with an elite that has always hated us and wants us DEAD. But this is done via proxy armies.


I also wonder how American veterans who suffered and fought must feel about it all. A curse on the ones responsible.
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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #85 on: August 17, 2021, 10:19:17 PM »

The "refugee" crisis in Europe was in large part by meddling with countries to the point where this had to happen. The trouble this has caused in those countries is obvious.

I also wonder how American veterans who suffered and fought must feel about it all. A curse on the ones responsible.

Yeah this is it... America (and Britain to a lesser extent) have basically fucked the middle east for the last couple of decades. But Europe has to clean that mess up with having to take a ton of refugees. America and Britain should take most of them, as they are the ones doing all the interfering. Not that they will...

I hope the US and the UK have finally learned from that utter clusterfuck not to go into the middle-east again.
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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #86 on: August 17, 2021, 10:27:27 PM »
America indirectly, yes. But that elite pulls the strings, and have for some time. Again, they fight by proxy, and that elite wants ALL of western society undermined and destroyed. As long as that elite group runs things this will happen again.

In case you haven't noticed we here in America "must" take in loads of "refugees." The ones from south of our borders. If you are not American look up "sanctuary city."
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« Reply #87 on: August 17, 2021, 10:33:08 PM »
America indirectly, yes. But that elite pulls the strings, and have for some time. Again, they fight by proxy, and that elite wants ALL of western society undermined and destroyed. As long as that elite group runs things this will happen again.

In case you haven't noticed we here in America "must" take in loads of "refugees." The ones from south of our borders. If you are not American look up "sanctuary city."

Yeah, all the elites have the keys and the US military are just the pawns.

I don't know what Sanctuary City is.

Well, unfortunately you guys should also take the brunt for Syria, Afghanistan and Libya because you guys invaded and left those places in the shit. Not really Europe's problem, although we will end up paying a heavy price.
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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #88 on: August 17, 2021, 10:37:00 PM »
Sanctuary cities are places illegal aliens can go and the immigration laws are not enforced.

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Re: Biden's Presidency, all hail the Taliban!
« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2021, 10:39:02 PM »
Sanctuary cities are places illegal aliens can go and the immigration laws are not enforced.

Hm... I wouldn't be a fan of that tbh. Mind you, pretty much everywhere is very soft on immigration these days.
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