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New Study proves Pundit was right

Started by GeekyBugle, May 26, 2023, 04:29:49 PM

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SHARK

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 27, 2023, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: SHARK on June 26, 2023, 05:36:42 PM
Greetings!

The idea that the Communists or Sociaists did more to defeat the Nazis, the Fascists--themselves also largely Sociaists--is Commie-Boo Kool-Aid propaganda.

This video discussing history of World War II demonstrates that entire ideological fallacy quite thoroughly.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK


If by 'defeated the Nazis' they mean 'acted as bullet catchers because Stalin was a strategic retard', I guess it fits.

But the hilarious assertion that socialists were somehow ideologically opposed to the Nazis is pure fiction. It was two gangs, duking it over turf; neither was the good guy.

I often remark on the 30's and the rise of the NSDAP. One of the major factors was Antifa (a communist subsidiary) fighting it out with the Sturmabteilung (Brownshirts) in the streets. And Antifa made such asses of themselves that they made the NSDAP look good.

Greetings!

Exactly, Ghostmaker!

The Communist Soviets certainly suffered more casualties--though that does not mean that they actually did *more* to defeat the Nazis and Mussolini's Fascists during World War II. The Historian Tik step by step breaks down the entire Commie-Boo/Socialist argument and thoroughly destroys their fallacious argument. As usual, Elfdart is wrong. 

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

jhkim

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 26, 2023, 06:30:43 PM
Quote from: jhkim on June 26, 2023, 05:49:23 PM
Regarding public schools...

Again, I can't speak for all schools in the country. But when my son went to elementary school, no one was allowed to participate in any after-school events or field trips without parental permission. I was very involved my son's education, and I never saw anything like this.

GeekyBugle - can you cite events for elementary-school-age children where kids were lured into participating in drag events without parental consent?

You mean besides the Drag Queen Story Hour?

First, thanks. I asked for examples, and you have provided some.

To reiterate, my generalization is that drag story hours are generally about parents intentionally taking their kids to such events -- just like how Ratman_tf describes the founding of the idea by Michelle Tea for her own toddler. I read your six examples and even there - most (though not all) are pre-announced, optional events that parents can either opt into or opt out of.

That said, I agree about two of your examples: The Toronto case where the school originally made the event (which included a drag story hour) optional -- but then the school board overruled it. Also, the case of the East Harlem principal in drag at the talent show was a surprise. These two cases are clearly overstepping the bounds - and I agree they should be stopped. These are outliers, though, compared to all the parents intentionally taking their kids.

That doesn't mean one can't object to it - but parents choosing events for their kids is a different problem than schools forcing events on parents.

Numbering your links:

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 26, 2023, 06:30:43 PM
(1) https://www.foxnews.com/media/drag-queen-story-hour-graders-philadelphia-school-outrages-parents
(2) https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-elementary-schools-brings-drag-performance-for-student-pride-celebration
(3) https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/elementary-school-cancels-after-school-pride-fest-event-over-social-media-threats-drag-queen-story-hour-self-defense-nail-polish-gender-affirming-care-transgender-lgbtq-plus-rights-portland-police-public-safety-health-terrorism
(4) https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/06/06/tdsb-turns-the-page-on-drag-queen-storytime-event-policy-after-parent-outcry.html
(5) https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-elementary-kids-get-surprise-drag-queen-performance-talent-show/1700057/
(6) https://www.thepublica.com/1718-2/

  • (1) From the story, parents were sent notification and were told they "can opt their children out if they so choose".
  • (2) The headline proclaims that students were forced, but none of the article content or quotes says this. According to the article, outcry started on the Internet after the event already happened. The article has no quotes from objecting parents. So it's undefined, but it seems to me like a misleading headline.
  • (3) An optional event announced in advance, that was canceled. From the article: "Beth Essex, the school's interim principal, issued a statement about the cancellation of the optional event earlier this month."
  • 4 and 5 I discuss above and agree with
  • (6) The article describes an announcement for an after-school event that went out to parents, inviting them to come.

Even if there are other cases, I don't think the generalization is correct that kids at these story hours are primarily being taken without their parents' permission. So the primary issue is parents intentionally taking their kids.

rytrasmi

Quote from: SHARK on June 27, 2023, 11:41:24 AM
Greetings!

Exactly, Ghostmaker!

The Communist Soviets certainly suffered more casualties--though that does not mean that they actually did *more* to defeat the Nazis and Mussolini's Fascists during World War II. The Historian Tik step by step breaks down the entire Commie-Boo/Socialist argument and thoroughly destroys their fallacious argument. As usual, Elfdart is wrong. 

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

The idea that the USSR did more to defeat the Nazis than anyone else is also laughable due to the fact that the USSR was allied with the Nazis for the first couple years of the war. Imagine how much easier it would have been to defeat the Nazis had the Soviets not sided with them!

Elfdart is a low quality troll, an idiot, or both.



The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

GeekyBugle

Quote from: jhkim on June 27, 2023, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 26, 2023, 06:30:43 PM
Quote from: jhkim on June 26, 2023, 05:49:23 PM
Regarding public schools...

Again, I can't speak for all schools in the country. But when my son went to elementary school, no one was allowed to participate in any after-school events or field trips without parental permission. I was very involved my son's education, and I never saw anything like this.

GeekyBugle - can you cite events for elementary-school-age children where kids were lured into participating in drag events without parental consent?

You mean besides the Drag Queen Story Hour?

First, thanks. I asked for examples, and you have provided some.

To reiterate, my generalization is that drag story hours are generally about parents intentionally taking their kids to such events -- just like how Ratman_tf describes the founding of the idea by Michelle Tea for her own toddler. I read your six examples and even there - most (though not all) are pre-announced, optional events that parents can either opt into or opt out of.

That said, I agree about two of your examples: The Toronto case where the school originally made the event (which included a drag story hour) optional -- but then the school board overruled it. Also, the case of the East Harlem principal in drag at the talent show was a surprise. These two cases are clearly overstepping the bounds - and I agree they should be stopped. These are outliers, though, compared to all the parents intentionally taking their kids.

That doesn't mean one can't object to it - but parents choosing events for their kids is a different problem than schools forcing events on parents.

Numbering your links:

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 26, 2023, 06:30:43 PM
(1) https://www.foxnews.com/media/drag-queen-story-hour-graders-philadelphia-school-outrages-parents
(2) https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-elementary-schools-brings-drag-performance-for-student-pride-celebration
(3) https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/elementary-school-cancels-after-school-pride-fest-event-over-social-media-threats-drag-queen-story-hour-self-defense-nail-polish-gender-affirming-care-transgender-lgbtq-plus-rights-portland-police-public-safety-health-terrorism
(4) https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/06/06/tdsb-turns-the-page-on-drag-queen-storytime-event-policy-after-parent-outcry.html
(5) https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-elementary-kids-get-surprise-drag-queen-performance-talent-show/1700057/
(6) https://www.thepublica.com/1718-2/

  • (1) From the story, parents were sent notification and were told they "can opt their children out if they so choose".
  • (2) The headline proclaims that students were forced, but none of the article content or quotes says this. According to the article, outcry started on the Internet after the event already happened. The article has no quotes from objecting parents. So it's undefined, but it seems to me like a misleading headline.
  • (3) An optional event announced in advance, that was canceled. From the article: "Beth Essex, the school's interim principal, issued a statement about the cancellation of the optional event earlier this month."
  • 4 and 5 I discuss above and agree with
  • (6) The article describes an announcement for an after-school event that went out to parents, inviting them to come.

Even if there are other cases, I don't think the generalization is correct that kids at these story hours are primarily being taken without their parents' permission. So the primary issue is parents intentionally taking their kids.

You saw the Highschool one right? I mean kids at highschool aren't so young but still lapdances?

EVEN if we concede that Drag Queen Story Hour is as innocent as they and you claim, it's the nose of the cammel, normalize Drag so latter you can push your crotch onto a teenaged girl, have them read pornographic books with instructions to use Grinder so they can have sexual encounters with adults.

Your main point of contention is that this isn't so "Muh Slippery Slope Fallacy!", well, excuse us if we don't believe you, we have seen what these degenerates do and push (Including diddling kids), we're not falling for the same trick again.

Now, "parents taking them" so you're now saying that children beauty pageants are okay? I mean it's the parents pushing their little girls into the hands of the pedos!

Can't have your cake and eat it too, either "Theparents took them" is or isn't an acceptable excuse, choose wisely.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Elfdart on June 26, 2023, 05:13:12 PM

Feel free to cite examples. No, pro-Nazi websites don't count.

Meaning you will only accept websites that agree with you, you're a retard, history is there and anyone can search it. But do keep on sucking the commie scum dick.

BTW, don't bother answering, putting you on ignore, you're not worth my time.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

jhkim

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 27, 2023, 12:08:48 PM
EVEN if we concede that Drag Queen Story Hour is as innocent as they and you claim, it's the nose of the cammel, normalize Drag so latter you can push your crotch onto a teenaged girl, have them read pornographic books with instructions to use Grinder so they can have sexual encounters with adults.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 27, 2023, 12:08:48 PM
Now, "parents taking them" so you're now saying that children beauty pageants are okay? I mean it's the parents pushing their little girls into the hands of the pedos!

I have never claimed that Drag Queen Story Hour is innocent and fine; or that it's fine whatever parents do with their own children. There should be a line between what is age-appropriate and not, and plenty of shit falls on the wrong side of the line and should be banned.

I don't like child beauty pageants either -- and that's the point. There should be standards that are age-appropriate and equal for LGBT and straight.


Yes, I took my son when he was 14 to see the Kinky Boots musical, and I maintain that was reasonable and age-appropriate. You call me a groomer and that it is part of a slippery slope to normalize drag. I say that when you call this evil grooming, you're putting all LGBT people and allies in the side against you -- when plenty of them would be in favor of stricter controls around sexualizing kids -- opposed to the fringe of actual groomers and molesters.

GeekyBugle

#501
Quote from: jhkim on June 27, 2023, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 27, 2023, 12:08:48 PM
EVEN if we concede that Drag Queen Story Hour is as innocent as they and you claim, it's the nose of the cammel, normalize Drag so latter you can push your crotch onto a teenaged girl, have them read pornographic books with instructions to use Grinder so they can have sexual encounters with adults.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 27, 2023, 12:08:48 PM
Now, "parents taking them" so you're now saying that children beauty pageants are okay? I mean it's the parents pushing their little girls into the hands of the pedos!

I have never claimed that Drag Queen Story Hour is innocent and fine; or that it's fine whatever parents do with their own children. There should be a line between what is age-appropriate and not, and plenty of shit falls on the wrong side of the line and should be banned.

I don't like child beauty pageants either -- and that's the point. There should be standards that are age-appropriate and equal for LGBT and straight.


Yes, I took my son when he was 14 to see the Kinky Boots musical, and I maintain that was reasonable and age-appropriate. You call me a groomer and that it is part of a slippery slope to normalize drag. I say that when you call this evil grooming, you're putting all LGBT people and allies in the side against you -- when plenty of them would be in favor of stricter controls around sexualizing kids -- opposed to the fringe of actual groomers and molesters.

I'm NOT calling you a groomer, I'm telling you we have seen this exact same movie before and we're not falling for the slippery slope "fallacy" again.

Normalizing Drag to elementary school children IS the camel's nose, you might not see or believe it, doesn't change the fact.

As for LGBT "and allies" putting themselves against me... Funny you mention that GaysAgainstGroomers is on MY side, so are plenty of trans, lesbians and even Drag Queens (I need to find the video).

What is age appropriate with the company of a parent for a 14 year old isn't the same as for elementary school children.

Need I remind you I used to be an edgy Atheist? I was on the other side of this discussion, I called fag bashers and lunatics and cried about the slippery slope fallacy. Then I recovered my faith. Then the activists started pushing to normalize pedophilia, zoophilia and incest, started pushing pornographic materials to elementary school children and to put them on hormones and to mutilate them...

The exact same activists pushing for all of that ARE pushing for the normalization of Drag for small children, for the normalization of kink for small children and you want me to believe that's not the camel's nose?

If a small child can make an informed decision and consent to hormones and sexual mutilation why can't the child consent to sex?

No, Jhkim, the activists do not speak for the people they claim to speak for, speaking against the activists doesn't mean speaking against ALL the LGBT "communiteh", by comparing the ACTUAL groomers with the LGBT it is YOU who are making them a diservice.

Why are some Drag Queens so interested in performing in front of minors? WHY?
Why are the activists pushing pornography to minors?
Why are they pushing kink to minors?
Why are they giving them instructions to get on Grindr to have access to ADULT gay men?

So, when I speak against the child molesters in ANY Church I am speaking against the whole Church?

Edited to add:

Found the story about the Drag Queen:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/drag-performer-speaks-out-allowing-kids-attend-drag-shows-adult-venue
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

jhkim

Regarding your questions why people do drag story hours, GeekyBugle --


I can't answer that, having no experience of the events. I did read this article by Louise Perry for The New Statesman. Perry quotes Kitty Demure, and largely agrees with Demure's idea that the main motivation is provocation of conservatives. According to Perry, the event she attended had nothing outrageous, and the performer was even a "female queen" - so not a female impersonator at all, but rather a non-transgender woman dressed in drag style.

She concludes with a negative view of story hours as pointless and deliberate provocation, but she also doesn't seem to think that her son was harmed by going to the event.

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/08/drag-queen-story-hour-uk

(full text below since the link requires registration)

QuoteWhat my toddler and I learned at Drag Queen Story Hour

Usually, being the mother of a toddler puts one at a disadvantage in the world of journalism. Long hours, travel and tight deadlines are all radically incompatible with being home at 5pm for the dinner and bedtime routine. The sudden interest in Drag Queen Story Hour, however, has made a child companion an unexpectedly useful accessory for journalists in the field.

Drag Queen Story Hour events invite children to enjoy a story read by a performer in drag. This summer, a touring group called Drag Queen Story Hour UK has brought the originally American franchise to this country and with it an American style of culture war – and British journalists have been eager to report on the action. But you can't very well show up to a children's event without a child. Enter my 15-month-old son – the Woodward to my Bernstein.

I should start by saying that we witnessed nothing outrageous at the Drag Queen Story Hour we attended. There have been several controversial incidents in the US over the past three years, however – some of which have been picked up by the mainstream press, including apparently incriminating images that have sparked outrage and debate.

Earlier this year, footage from an event in Dallas showed children handing out dollar bills to drag queens marching down a runway topped with a neon sign reading "It's not gonna lick itself". And last July Redbridge council launched an investigation after a performer at a children's event held at Goodmayes Library in east London was photographed wearing a rainbow monkey suit with exposed fake nipples, fake buttocks and a fake penis.

Protests at these events have become heated. In the US, the right-wing group the Proud Boys stormed a reading in a library near San Francisco in June. Drag Queen Story Hour UK, meanwhile, claimed on 18 July that a "far-Right neo-Nazi group" had block-booked 2,000 tickets to try to prevent its tour from going ahead. Ten days later, police had to escort the drag performer Sab Samuels to safety after a group of about 25 protesters gathered outside a Drag Queen Story Hour event in Bristol.

When my son and I arrived at our own Drag Queen Story Hour event in a London suburb, this backlash was the subject of conversation among the cluster of parents gathered outside. The consensus was that the controversy was driven by right-wing media. "It's all just a confected culture war," remarked one mother, to nods from the others. Everyone seemed excited.

I had wondered if the event might attract a lot of same-sex couples, but looking around that didn't appear to be the case – and among our audience the fashion choices seemed on the conventional side. And, despite the event being held in a very diverse area, everyone was white.

Our compère joked that the drag queen was late because vacuum cleaners were on sale in the local shop – the kind of sexist joke that would normally raise gasps in a crowd like this. We were all asked to call out the performer's name and in she came. To my surprise, it turned out that our drag queen was a woman.

Adorned in a 1950s-style petticoated dress and high heels, with a blonde bouffant and exaggerated make-up, this performer was a "female queen". (Female queens account for a small proportion of drag performers and are not always welcome on the drag scene.) She shimmied around the room, singing a song for the children. The experience was much like any other kind of playgroup. The only difference was that this playgroup leader had dressed up as a caricature of an airheaded woman obsessed with housework and looking pretty. Who, exactly, was this event for? What was its purpose?

In 2020 an American drag queen who opposes these events, and goes by the name of Kitty Demure, released a video addressed to "heterosexual women" considering taking their children to a Drag Queen Story Hour reading: "I understand that you might want to look like you're with it, that you're cool... And honestly you're not doing the gay community any favours. In fact, you're hurting us."

Demure explained that these events function as a progressive provocation, a deliberate attempt to get a rise out of conservatives. It was inevitable that adding risqué nightclub entertainers to children's events would result in occasional boundary transgressions like the ones we've seen (fake penises and the like), which would inevitably invite outrage. Thus the Drag Queen Story Hour phenomenon rains down fire on a form of entertainment that has traditionally been the preserve of gay men.

The point, supposedly, is to challenge gender norms, but the event we attended did nothing of the sort. We were a bunch of white, middle-class heterosexuals who had brought our children along to watch a woman put on a bizarrely exaggerated display of femininity.

Sitting in that stuffy room, I realised that this phenomenon has nothing to do with children – and everything to do with their parents. There is always enjoyment to be had in feeling deliciously transgressive while staying safely within the bounds of conventionality. Drag Queen Story Hour presents the perfect opportunity to do just that.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: jhkim on June 27, 2023, 05:17:35 PM
Regarding your questions why people do drag story hours, GeekyBugle --


I can't answer that, having no experience of the events. I did read this article by Louise Perry for The New Statesman. Perry quotes Kitty Demure, and largely agrees with Demure's idea that the main motivation is provocation of conservatives. According to Perry, the event she attended had nothing outrageous, and the performer was even a "female queen" - so not a female impersonator at all, but rather a non-transgender woman dressed in drag style.

She concludes with a negative view of story hours as pointless and deliberate provocation, but she also doesn't seem to think that her son was harmed by going to the event.

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2022/08/drag-queen-story-hour-uk

(full text below since the link requires registration)

QuoteWhat my toddler and I learned at Drag Queen Story Hour

Usually, being the mother of a toddler puts one at a disadvantage in the world of journalism. Long hours, travel and tight deadlines are all radically incompatible with being home at 5pm for the dinner and bedtime routine. The sudden interest in Drag Queen Story Hour, however, has made a child companion an unexpectedly useful accessory for journalists in the field.

Drag Queen Story Hour events invite children to enjoy a story read by a performer in drag. This summer, a touring group called Drag Queen Story Hour UK has brought the originally American franchise to this country and with it an American style of culture war – and British journalists have been eager to report on the action. But you can't very well show up to a children's event without a child. Enter my 15-month-old son – the Woodward to my Bernstein.

I should start by saying that we witnessed nothing outrageous at the Drag Queen Story Hour we attended. There have been several controversial incidents in the US over the past three years, however – some of which have been picked up by the mainstream press, including apparently incriminating images that have sparked outrage and debate.

Earlier this year, footage from an event in Dallas showed children handing out dollar bills to drag queens marching down a runway topped with a neon sign reading "It's not gonna lick itself". And last July Redbridge council launched an investigation after a performer at a children's event held at Goodmayes Library in east London was photographed wearing a rainbow monkey suit with exposed fake nipples, fake buttocks and a fake penis.

Protests at these events have become heated. In the US, the right-wing group the Proud Boys stormed a reading in a library near San Francisco in June. Drag Queen Story Hour UK, meanwhile, claimed on 18 July that a "far-Right neo-Nazi group" had block-booked 2,000 tickets to try to prevent its tour from going ahead. Ten days later, police had to escort the drag performer Sab Samuels to safety after a group of about 25 protesters gathered outside a Drag Queen Story Hour event in Bristol.

When my son and I arrived at our own Drag Queen Story Hour event in a London suburb, this backlash was the subject of conversation among the cluster of parents gathered outside. The consensus was that the controversy was driven by right-wing media. "It's all just a confected culture war," remarked one mother, to nods from the others. Everyone seemed excited.

I had wondered if the event might attract a lot of same-sex couples, but looking around that didn't appear to be the case – and among our audience the fashion choices seemed on the conventional side. And, despite the event being held in a very diverse area, everyone was white.

Our compère joked that the drag queen was late because vacuum cleaners were on sale in the local shop – the kind of sexist joke that would normally raise gasps in a crowd like this. We were all asked to call out the performer's name and in she came. To my surprise, it turned out that our drag queen was a woman.

Adorned in a 1950s-style petticoated dress and high heels, with a blonde bouffant and exaggerated make-up, this performer was a "female queen". (Female queens account for a small proportion of drag performers and are not always welcome on the drag scene.) She shimmied around the room, singing a song for the children. The experience was much like any other kind of playgroup. The only difference was that this playgroup leader had dressed up as a caricature of an airheaded woman obsessed with housework and looking pretty. Who, exactly, was this event for? What was its purpose?

In 2020 an American drag queen who opposes these events, and goes by the name of Kitty Demure, released a video addressed to "heterosexual women" considering taking their children to a Drag Queen Story Hour reading: "I understand that you might want to look like you're with it, that you're cool... And honestly you're not doing the gay community any favours. In fact, you're hurting us."

Demure explained that these events function as a progressive provocation, a deliberate attempt to get a rise out of conservatives. It was inevitable that adding risqué nightclub entertainers to children's events would result in occasional boundary transgressions like the ones we've seen (fake penises and the like), which would inevitably invite outrage. Thus the Drag Queen Story Hour phenomenon rains down fire on a form of entertainment that has traditionally been the preserve of gay men.

The point, supposedly, is to challenge gender norms, but the event we attended did nothing of the sort. We were a bunch of white, middle-class heterosexuals who had brought our children along to watch a woman put on a bizarrely exaggerated display of femininity.

Sitting in that stuffy room, I realised that this phenomenon has nothing to do with children – and everything to do with their parents. There is always enjoyment to be had in feeling deliciously transgressive while staying safely within the bounds of conventionality. Drag Queen Story Hour presents the perfect opportunity to do just that.

That MIGHT be one reason, but you're just speculating, addmitedly so am I, but I do have countles examples (like the one I shared with a male thristing his crotch into a teen girl) of more severe stuff. Ergo my conclusion that it's to normalize other stuff (as we have seen them pushing for) needs the least ammount of logical jumps and has the most evidence to back it up.

So I conclude that it is the camel's nose to latter push other stuff, like we have seen them do with pornographic materials, kink, sexting and hookup apps where minors can go to find adults to hook up. Like we see in every pride event where nude or semi-nude adults twerk in front of minors, where they trust their fake penises into their faces, to the beneplacit and applause of the degenerate doing it, the child's parents and the organizers of the event.

Then, when WE complain about all this degeneracy and say (correctly and rightly so) that DQSH is just the camel's nose to follow with more degenerate and depraved shit people like you call us gay bashers, when it's not all LGBT, we never said it was and we just want to ban minors from attending such degenerate events/shows.

Why do they want so much to perform infront of minors?

Does the Church turn people into filthy child molesters or the child molesters are attracted to a place where they have access and the cover of respectability?

Does Disney turn people into child molesters? Or are the child molesters attracted to a place with access and cover?

Do schools turn people into child molesters or are child molesters attracted to a place with access, cover and power over children?

Why, when most parents don't want THOSE shows on their school, they get so agravated? Why do they want so badly to have access to minors?

Did you notice the DQ said Drag was inherently an adult thing? So why do some Drag Performers want to perform infront of minors so badly? And why, not knowing the answer, are you so quick to jump to their defense?

One of the differences between a liberal and a conservative is we have a stronger revulsion mechanism, lots of stuff we find revolting you guys don't, which IMHO leaves you open to being blind sided, especially when it's your political "enemies" calling stuff out.

IDGAFF what two adults do on the privacy of their bedroom as long as both consent to it. But I don't want to see it either, it's revolting, so I tolerate but not accept (except my family but those wouldn't dream with fucking infront of me thank God). You on the other hand are way more open to all kinds of stuff, you also place "fairness", "equality" and "progress" before any other value (you the liberals as a rule), with a blatant disregard to tradition and purity some even go as far as to say those are automatically bad things.

Furthermore you do not understand conservatives, you're unable to predict our position as demonstrated by the "gotcha" of child pageants. While we can predict yours with a high degree of accuracy. BECAUSE we do understand you.

Add to that the scientific FACT that progressivism either attracts or turns people into lunatics. Your house is infested with bugs and you refuse to turn on the light, and call all sort of names those who dare tell you so.

Saddly, in the near future we'll be able to say (once more) told you so, and you'll say we're just picking the nuts... Well, why is it so freaking easy to find them nuts?

Furthermore, why is it we can all agree that the prists that molest children should get a 4 bore slug to the head? But you refuse to concede there's bad actors on your side and tell us we're just gaybashing when we call out the bad actors?

Would you say the same to the gays, lesbians, bisexuals and trans that are on OUR side? To their face?
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: jeff37923 on June 27, 2023, 06:07:01 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on June 27, 2023, 01:30:45 AM
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"We're here! We're queer! We're coming for your children!" chanted during Drag March in New York Pride Celebration

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-drag-marchers-chant-were-coming-your-children-during-pride-event


Harmless joke or telegraphing a punch?

I think it's an intentional provocation. They know what it sounds like, and they don't care, because they're assholes.

Which is indicative of the problem with TQ+ in general to me. Gender dysphoria is a mental disease that can lead to self-mutilation and drag queens specialize in being drama queens, so you get crazy attention seeking behavior out of that TQ+ segment of the LGBTQ+, often to their detriment.

Again, I disagree. I think it's the Q, as in the political activist identity. I think the LGB are just a guilty, just as loud, and just as obnoxious.
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GeekyBugle

Since my thread about it never got approved I'll share the article here.

The left's push to normalize pedophilia is true.

https://reduxx.info/queer-academic-recommends-pedophilia-be-taught-in-schools-as-an-innate-sexuality/

Don't worry, I have much more evidence and some of it quite horrific and much older.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell



GeekyBugle

Queer Theory Pedophilia Jeopardy, with Prof Derrick Jensen!

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1674866914311430144

If you can't see the video because you're not on the twatter just copy the twitter link and go to https://ssstwitter.com/ it will download the video for you.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell