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Ghostmaker:

--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 28, 2021, 01:23:10 PM ---I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.

--- End quote ---
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

horsesoldier:

--- Quote from: Reckall on September 28, 2021, 08:09:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: horsesoldier on September 28, 2021, 07:44:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: Reckall on September 27, 2021, 06:10:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: horsesoldier on September 27, 2021, 01:01:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Reckall on September 25, 2021, 09:18:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: SHARK on September 25, 2021, 03:49:24 PM ---https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

--- End quote ---

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

--- End quote ---

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

--- End quote ---

You government "lets in fuckups from the world over" since before it was a government. Have you ever studied North American history?


--- Quote ---Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in.

--- End quote ---

They are already doing that. For now, they are on the fence about gun shooting spree Americans.


--- Quote --- Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

--- End quote ---

You are welcome. :) We pulled out without fuckups, BTW.


--- Quote ---Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

--- End quote ---

You mean that you took Afghanistan from the Taliban, invested trillions of dollars in the country that they didn't have and then gave it back to them? For real? Wow... :o

--- End quote ---

Dude you think you're owning me but you're not.

--- End quote ---

Not the best opening.

--- Quote ---1. Yes my shitty government lets fuckups from the world over to enter. Most notably, 12,000 Haitians who had been living comfortably in Chile and other South American countries. I utterly despise this.

--- End quote ---

Don't forget Europeans.


--- Quote ---2. Why would any nation let in a spree shooter?

--- End quote ---

You mean that not all Americans are spree shooters the way not all Afghani are rapists? I learn this only now :o


--- Quote ---3. Yeah, you left without a massive disaster, great. Italy was still part of the NATO mission and bears guilt. You were still part of the hated foreign invaders.

--- End quote ---

Amen to that. Next time it will be better not to follow the "World's policemen".


--- Quote ---4. Italy was part of this stupid, wasteful spending in Afghanistan as well. Of course not on nearly so great a scale.

--- End quote ---

We took an oath of allegiance and we did our duty as a NATO country. If you think that it was wrong, then next time don't invoke Article 5 before going in.


--- Quote ---You seem to think we conservatives are pro-Afghan war. Not in any way shape or form.

--- End quote ---

What I think about "you conservatives" is that since a few years you do seem to be a very confused people. In all fairness, the other side of the aisle doesn't seem much better.

--- End quote ---


--- Quote from: Reckall on September 28, 2021, 08:09:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: horsesoldier on September 28, 2021, 07:44:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: Reckall on September 27, 2021, 06:10:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: horsesoldier on September 27, 2021, 01:01:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Reckall on September 25, 2021, 09:18:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: SHARK on September 25, 2021, 03:49:24 PM ---https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-bliss-female-military-service-member-assaulted-by-afghan-evacuees-fbi-investigating/ar-AAOOhbh?ocid=spartanntp

The guilty Afghan bastards that RAPED the American woman should be promptly fucking strung up and hung.

--- End quote ---

But, mind it, only if he is Afghan. If he is American - or from Ecuador if it matters - he gets a pass.

--- End quote ---

Fuck someone from Ecuador. They don't belong here either. And yeah dude my countrymen are my countrymen, even if they're fuck ups. I don't need to let in fuck ups from the world over, even though that's what out government does.

--- End quote ---

You government "lets in fuckups from the world over" since before it was a government. Have you ever studied North American history?


--- Quote ---Go petition your government to let rapey Afghans in.

--- End quote ---

They are already doing that. For now, they are on the fence about gun shooting spree Americans.


--- Quote --- Italy is part of NATO after all and supported the NATO mission in Afghanistan. Italy houses US troops, warehouses US equipment and provides overflight privileges.

--- End quote ---

You are welcome. :) We pulled out without fuckups, BTW.


--- Quote ---Finally, Afghanistan is much better off in a material sense, after 20 years and trillions of dollars.

--- End quote ---

You mean that you took Afghanistan from the Taliban, invested trillions of dollars in the country that they didn't have and then gave it back to them? For real? Wow... :o

--- End quote ---

Dude you think you're owning me but you're not.

--- End quote ---

Not the best opening.

--- Quote ---1. Yes my shitty government lets fuckups from the world over to enter. Most notably, 12,000 Haitians who had been living comfortably in Chile and other South American countries. I utterly despise this.

--- End quote ---

Don't forget Europeans.


--- Quote ---2. Why would any nation let in a spree shooter?

--- End quote ---

You mean that not all Americans are spree shooters the way not all Afghani are rapists? I learn this only now :o


--- Quote ---3. Yeah, you left without a massive disaster, great. Italy was still part of the NATO mission and bears guilt. You were still part of the hated foreign invaders.

--- End quote ---

Amen to that. Next time it will be better not to follow the "World's policemen".


--- Quote ---4. Italy was part of this stupid, wasteful spending in Afghanistan as well. Of course not on nearly so great a scale.

--- End quote ---

We took an oath of allegiance and we did our duty as a NATO country. If you think that it was wrong, then next time don't invoke Article 5 before going in.


--- Quote ---You seem to think we conservatives are pro-Afghan war. Not in any way shape or form.

--- End quote ---

What I think about "you conservatives" is that since a few years you do seem to be a very confused people. In all fairness, the other side of the aisle doesn't seem much better.

--- End quote ---

There are thousands of Europeans camped out at the border? Who knew.

Also, it's Afghan, not Afghani. Afghani is their money. One would thing someone as worldly as you would know this.

You're confusing conservatives for neo-conservatives. Neocons are the ones that got us in this garbage and drug along NATO. Actual conservatives have always been against this crap.

As to the rapey Afghan problem, the original claim was that they haven't committed any crimes, they were simply yearning for freedom, and there have been documented cases of rape/sexual assault. This is only the stuff they've been caught for. If there were masses of Americans illegally going into Italy and a number of spree shooters were amongst them, you'd have a point.

oggsmash:

--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 28, 2021, 01:26:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 28, 2021, 01:23:10 PM ---I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.

--- End quote ---
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

--- End quote ---

   I am sure they all expected it, and are now engaging in pre planned political theatre.  Generals are more political than actual politicians. 

Ghostmaker:

--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 28, 2021, 09:05:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 28, 2021, 01:26:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 28, 2021, 01:23:10 PM ---I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.

--- End quote ---
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

--- End quote ---

   I am sure they all expected it, and are now engaging in pre planned political theatre.  Generals are more political than actual politicians.

--- End quote ---
I don't think they expected things to come unglued like this. And it lends credence to the theory that there's a behind-the-scenes civil war going on between various factions of the regime.

Anyone heard from Heels-Up recently?

Ratman_tf:

--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 28, 2021, 09:33:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 28, 2021, 09:05:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 28, 2021, 01:26:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 28, 2021, 01:23:10 PM ---I do not care if it collapsed.   I do believe in the will of the people, and the people there wanted the Taliban in charge, plain and simple.  If billions of dollars of the best equipment and training for 20 years can not get it done, it was never going to be done.  My problem now, is the name beatches who fled with not a iota of fight are coming to the USA now.  People keep talking about who the USA has let immigrate, well in years long past, there was no social safety net for immigrants or others.  If you couldnt make it, you left rather than starve.  Now we give anyone who wants it money, food, and housing.  We are not bringing in the people that drive economies, or at least not that drive them upwards.   Enjoy the decline.

--- End quote ---
Not the point, ogg, though you're not wrong.

The fact is that the regime insists they totally didn't expect this, and now the generals are directly contradicting them.

Internal schisms within the regime are always ripe for opportunities.

--- End quote ---

   I am sure they all expected it, and are now engaging in pre planned political theatre.  Generals are more political than actual politicians.

--- End quote ---
I don't think they expected things to come unglued like this. And it lends credence to the theory that there's a behind-the-scenes civil war going on between various factions of the regime.

Anyone heard from Heels-Up recently?

--- End quote ---

I think she commented on the border horse "controversey". Then slunk back into whatever hole she hides in.

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