The security state, censorship, and election interference

[yosemitemike]

The National Guard is about optics over a handful of incidents -

No, it's about elevated crime rates in the subways.  The governor was quite clear about why she was doing it.  Either you didn't bother doing a simple Google search or you are deliberately misrepresenting the reason behind this to suit your argument.  Given your deathly allergy to responding to what is actually said, I suspect the latter.

[SHARK]

The National Guard is about optics over a handful of incidents -

No, it's about elevated crime rates in the subways.  The governor was quite clear about why she was doing it.  Either you didn't bother doing a simple Google search or you are deliberately misrepresenting the reason behind this to suit your argument.  Given your deathly allergy to responding to what is actually said, I suspect the latter.

Greetings!

Yeah, Yosemitemike! *Laughing* Geesus, the crime and mayhem is so bad in NY that the Governor ordered the National Guard into the chaotic subways--but Jhkim says that is all "Just Optics." JUST OPTICS? Just optics my ass. That is a really good look in optics for the Mayor of New York City and the state Governor to need to summon the National Guard. Talk about chaos, and buffoonery!

I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.

Yeah, the chaos and mayhem is so severe, that Walmart, CVS, Walgreens, and In & Out have all pulled their stores from cities like Oakland, San Francisco, and Los Angeles. Yeah, no one cares what the "Crime rate" was 30 years ago--the fact is, crime and lawlessness and mayhem are skyrocketing, in intensity, violence, and craziness. That's why 30 years ago, the entire temperature of the cities was substantially different.

It's just optics though, right? *Laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[GeekyBugle]

NYC is the bestest most securest city in the world you bigots!

[jhkim]

I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.

SHARK, I'm the only one who has been citing crime rates. I'll point out again that you can look at the various trends in the FBI's Crime Explorer app.

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

If you think the crime rates are skyrocketing, what were they two years ago, what are they now, and where do you know that from? How do you know these things.

And again, I live by San Francisco. I just went into SF yesterday to have dinner with my sister who is visiting for her work. Also, I grew up just north of New York City; I lived in Manhattan from 1991-1993; and my parents and other family live there currently in Brooklyn. I was just up in NYC in February, taking public transport.

To be clear - crime is a problem, especially in the highest crime cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, or New Orleans. But the U.S. has had higher crime rates than other First World countries for decades. I was very aware of the crime problem back in 1993. My roommate was mugged in our building's elevator. I had many friends who were victimized in Chicago circa 1990. The problem hasn't gone away, but in many places it has gotten better.

[blackstone]

NYC is the bestest most securest city in the world you bigots!

and the NY National Guard being deployed there is to....what?

[blackstone]

I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.

SHARK, I'm the only one who has been citing crime rates. I'll point out again that you can look at the various trends in the FBI's Crime Explorer app.

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

If you think the crime rates are skyrocketing, what were they two years ago, what are they now, and where do you know that from? How do you know these things.

And again, I live by San Francisco. I just went into SF yesterday to have dinner with my sister who is visiting for her work. Also, I grew up just north of New York City; I lived in Manhattan from 1991-1993; and my parents and other family live there currently in Brooklyn. I was just up in NYC in February, taking public transport.

To be clear - crime is a problem, especially in the highest crime cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, or New Orleans. But the U.S. has had higher crime rates than other First World countries for decades. I was very aware of the crime problem back in 1993. My roommate was mugged in our building's elevator. I had many friends who were victimized in Chicago circa 1990. The problem hasn't gone away, but in many places it has gotten better.

[SHARK]

I love watching Jhkim tap dance about the crime rates. Democrat cities across the country are coming apart at the seams--homeless tent cities, mobs of violent scum roaming the streets, mobs of criminals and kids ransacking numerous stores, in broad daylight.

SHARK, I'm the only one who has been citing crime rates. I'll point out again that you can look at the various trends in the FBI's Crime Explorer app.

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

If you think the crime rates are skyrocketing, what were they two years ago, what are they now, and where do you know that from? How do you know these things.

And again, I live by San Francisco. I just went into SF yesterday to have dinner with my sister who is visiting for her work. Also, I grew up just north of New York City; I lived in Manhattan from 1991-1993; and my parents and other family live there currently in Brooklyn. I was just up in NYC in February, taking public transport.

To be clear - crime is a problem, especially in the highest crime cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, or New Orleans. But the U.S. has had higher crime rates than other First World countries for decades. I was very aware of the crime problem back in 1993. My roommate was mugged in our building's elevator. I had many friends who were victimized in Chicago circa 1990. The problem hasn't gone away, but in many places it has gotten better.

Greetings!

*Laughing* Awesome, Blackstone!

Yeah, it is like, gee, when you see with your own eyes, and hear normal people testifying to how severe and crazy the crime rate is getting all over--you would think, gee, maybe the fucking "Statistics" are fucking lying? Maybe they are distorted by the fucking government? Whoever is in charge of "the research" is fucking wrong, bottom line.

Mind blowing, you know?

I've seen normal people make videos of the crime and homeless and poverty all over America. Not media giants, or some huge companies. Just normal people, documenting and showing you right there what is going on. The people talk about what it was like 5, 10, or 20 years ago--and contrast that with what is happening now, and has been happening. Again, and again, and again.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[oggsmash]

  Crime "statistics"....where a brown guy illegally here from south of the border is booked in as a "White" man when he commits a murder...but is never white when a college application is filled out.  I feel I should again mention...I do not trust enemies with regards to veracity of information.  The people keeping the stats have stated, openly, they are my enemy.

[blackstone]

  Crime "statistics"....where a brown guy illegally here from south of the border is booked in as a "White" man when he commits a murder...but is never white when a college application is filled out.  I feel I should again mention...I do not trust enemies with regards to veracity of information.  The people keeping the stats have stated, openly, they are my enemy.

Damn. That really cuts to the core. That sucks.

[oggsmash]

  Crime "statistics"....where a brown guy illegally here from south of the border is booked in as a "White" man when he commits a murder...but is never white when a college application is filled out.  I feel I should again mention...I do not trust enemies with regards to veracity of information.  The people keeping the stats have stated, openly, they are my enemy.

Damn. That really cuts to the core. That sucks.

  Well I can only see so many peaceful protests on CNN with buildings engulfed in flames before I have a light switch that tells me people putting the numbers on paper might not be my friends.   Edited to add: repeated posts here by people chanting about the 90's being so terrible and telling me to not believe my lying eyes also let me know a few things.  At this point if a person votes for democrats, they are flat out the sworn enemies of white men.  That is just fact.  I suppose there is the outside chance they just vote for democrats and have no idea as to where they stand, policies, etc.  But these people are not "political rivals".  They are flat out enemies to a massive group of people in America and honestly a serious threat to order, western civilization and society in general.  Maybe a bit hyperbolic...but hard not to view it this way 2024.