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Biden's Cascade of Failure!
3catcircus:
If you have Amazon Prime, I'd strongly recommend giving "Why We Fight" a watch. Pretty well lays out exactly why this is about something other than Ukrainian sovereignty.
On a related note, Germany's Chief of Navy was fired for stating that friendly relations with Russia are needed because they are a nation with similar Christian values who are a buffer to China.
Biden's disastrous speech just week pretty much greenlit Russia invading Ukraine.
Evergreen Intel has been reporting significant troop movements.
War is coming because none of the shitbags who got us into COVID as a means of getting Trump out of office have any idea how else to get us out of it other than by focusing national interests into a new singular event.
DocJones:
--- Quote from: SHARK on January 21, 2022, 10:46:48 PM ---Ukraine doesn't belong to Russia?
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It belongs to Lithuania! Free Lithuania!
Ratman_tf:
--- Quote from: Arkansan on January 22, 2022, 01:06:32 PM ---I'm tired of the global hegemony games. Time to sit this shit out. Though in all fairness I'm largely an isolationist on military policy.
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I am too, but I recognize that doing nothing can be just as bad as doing something.
Wrath of God:
--- Quote ---Greetings!
Ukraine doesn't belong to Russia?
Since when?
Look at a map of8th Century Russia. 10th Century. 12th Century. and on and fucking on for 1500 hundred years. The Ukraine region has always been part of Russia.
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Only... not really. Because Russia =/= Novogrod/Kiev Rus of Saint Vladimir. Sure both Ukrainians and Muscovians... and Belarusians are descendants of Early Medieval Rus of Saint Vladimir, but considering how insane was inner politics from the very beggining, Russia has not better claim as inheritor to Grand Duchy of Kiev. At least not since death of last Rurikid Tsar Fedor.
And even before that regions of Halicz and Wołyń są called Galicia and Lodomeria was longer in one country with Poland and Lithuania than with Principality of Moscow/Tsardom of Russia.
Just like let's say one could say Germany and France could claim each other, or France could claim Netherlands because it was part of Charlemagne Franconian Empire :P
Now of course at this point Russia have all advantages about Ukraine, but that's another pair of shoes.
oggsmash:
--- Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 22, 2022, 08:16:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Arkansan on January 22, 2022, 01:06:32 PM ---I'm tired of the global hegemony games. Time to sit this shit out. Though in all fairness I'm largely an isolationist on military policy.
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I am too, but I recognize that doing nothing can be just as bad as doing something.
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Well, given the track record that "doing something" has I think you could be right, but not as right as should be obvious. Given the sorts of body counts I have seen from doing something, I am 100 percent for the USA sitting this one out. Maybe reduce the military budget by 30 percent and put 100 percent of that into actual manufacturing infrastructure/training/incentives. Decouple from some of these places that obviously hate us (China has made it clear at this point), and deal with people as they deal with us, fair if fair, and fucked off if they are shitbirds.
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