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Author Topic: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.  (Read 2333 times)

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Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« on: August 25, 2021, 11:28:29 AM »
As the subject, apparently Joe Biden and his people are far right conservatives. I thought it was just one nutjob saying this but I keep hearing it. Any thoughts on this? My first impression is "we dont actually like him so we are gonna say hes for the team we don't like, despite the fact that my team actually put him in charge"

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2021, 09:26:43 PM »
It's an attempt to shift the Overton window to normalize extremists.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2021, 11:07:20 PM »
What's the context of the assertion? It does seem that Biden is finally getting some pushback because he presided over ending one of the most costly, pointless, and destructive wars in the history of the world. There are, crazily enough, a lot of pro-war advocates who are angry that the US war machine isn't churning out profits.

Pro-War seems to cut across a traditional party lines, but is more Left-aligned since the moral framework used by the pro-war crowd to justify their shameless lust for blood is always spreading "diversity, inclusion, and equity" to areas of the world that don't want it.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2021, 12:30:18 AM »
What's the context of the assertion? It does seem that Biden is finally getting some pushback because he presided over ending one of the most costly, pointless, and destructive wars in the history of the world.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2021, 09:16:41 AM »
Gaslighting to desperately make up for Biden's dementia and general incompetence.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2021, 09:35:00 AM »
If you imagine the political spectrum to be a number line with Anarcho-Communists on the far-left and Fascist Race-Supremacists on the far right you'll find yourself in a place where people can either be left of you or right of you. 

The further you are to the left, the more people exist to your right.  The further you are to the right, the more people exist to your left.  Without arguing about where the middle actually is, there are people who literally cannot tell the difference between people who are center, center-right, right, extreme right.  To them it is all 'right-wing'.  The same can be said about people on the right failing to distinguish differences between people on the left. 

Biden is not farther left than his most leftist supporter.  Therefore he is to the right of them.  Since most people think they're in the middle regardless of how extreme their position is (it's not usually hard to find SOMEONE even more extreme than you even when you're already very extreme), it's easy to think that anyone that is any closer to the center than your extreme position is is actually on the other side.   
When I say objectively, I mean 'subjectively'.  When I say literally, I mean 'figuratively'.  
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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2021, 09:37:28 AM »
If you imagine the political spectrum to be a number line with Anarcho-Communists on the far-left and Fascist Race-Supremacists on the far right you'll find yourself in a place where people can either be left of you or right of you. 

The further you are to the left, the more people exist to your right.  The further you are to the right, the more people exist to your left.  Without arguing about where the middle actually is, there are people who literally cannot tell the difference between people who are center, center-right, right, extreme right.  To them it is all 'right-wing'.  The same can be said about people on the right failing to distinguish differences between people on the left. 

Biden is not farther left than his most leftist supporter.  Therefore he is to the right of them.  Since most people think they're in the middle regardless of how extreme their position is (it's not usually hard to find SOMEONE even more extreme than you even when you're already very extreme), it's easy to think that anyone that is any closer to the center than your extreme position is is actually on the other side.
Complicated by the fact that his brains are oozing out of his skull in real time. It's hard to hold any kind of ideology when you're one bad day away from being a vegetable.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2021, 09:40:25 AM »
I think Biden is coherent.  And things went fine the last time we had a president suffering from dementia in office (Ronald Reagan). 
When I say objectively, I mean 'subjectively'.  When I say literally, I mean 'figuratively'.  
And when I say that you are a horse's ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse's ass.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2021, 09:44:19 AM »
I think Biden is coherent.  And things went fine the last time we had a president suffering from dementia in office (Ronald Reagan).

  If you think Biden is fine, you may have some mental problems.  I find it interesting you make the point he is fine, and then immediately say it will be fine if he has dementia.   LOL.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2021, 09:59:26 AM »
Your point seems to rely on two premises to be true.

1) Biden has dementia.

2) A president with dementia is always a bad thing.

I disagree with your assertion that Biden has dementia.  I've known people with dementia and Biden seems to be functioning better than they were.  Maybe it's a matter of degree. 

In any case, even if Biden does have dementia, it doesn't necessarily follow that is a bad thing.  I think Reagan's dementia is well-documented including during his time in office.  I think that many conservatives rank Reagan somewhere between a 'good president' and a 'great president'.  Therefore, under that criteria, it would be possible for a president with dementia to also be a good president. 
When I say objectively, I mean 'subjectively'.  When I say literally, I mean 'figuratively'.  
And when I say that you are a horse's ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse's ass.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2021, 10:09:09 AM »
I think Biden is coherent. 

I think Biden ranges from barely coherent to flatly incomprehensible.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2021, 10:25:45 AM »
Your point seems to rely on two premises to be true.

1) Biden has dementia.

2) A president with dementia is always a bad thing.

I disagree with your assertion that Biden has dementia.  I've known people with dementia and Biden seems to be functioning better than they were.  Maybe it's a matter of degree. 

In any case, even if Biden does have dementia, it doesn't necessarily follow that is a bad thing.  I think Reagan's dementia is well-documented including during his time in office.  I think that many conservatives rank Reagan somewhere between a 'good president' and a 'great president'.  Therefore, under that criteria, it would be possible for a president with dementia to also be a good president.

  Reagan got his noodle scrambled after his second election.  I have never said he was a good, or great president, so what conservatives think has nada to do with my opinion.  The government, and reagan's administration blatantly lied about his condition and hid it.   Biden has dementia or some similar form of degradation.   The guy literally has brain damage (two aneurysms) has is fucking O L D.   There is a reason people retire around 65-70.   Again the government is actively covering this up.  I am consistent, thought it was horribad when Regan got covered up, think it is horribad when Biden is covering up.  You seem fine with lying.  Everyone can have their own principles.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2021, 10:46:02 AM »
I think Biden is coherent.  And things went fine the last time we had a president suffering from dementia in office (Ronald Reagan).
Whataboutism to cover up how badly damaged Biden is.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2021, 11:16:57 AM »
Well, what did you expect from the left? That's their usual trick. When he was competing against Bernie Sanders, he was a sniffer, racist and offender. Then suddenly everyone forgot about it (or tried to justify voting for him even though they "believed all women") and Biden became a hero of the people and questioning him was a sin. Now that his presidency is losing face after withdrawing from Afghanistan, suddenly he's back to right-winger. He wasn't a true democrat

This is the left. It is a cult that's centered around obeying authority, invading personal life and it's fueled by hatred of conservatives. Don't expect any rationality because there is none. Their logic is censorship, lies, social pressure, yelling and accusing others of made up crimes.

I do think though that Biden is not a leftist. He's working on the side of the NWO because that's what's convenient for him. Did anyone really believe a 70-year-old white man would be on the side of antifa and BLM? No leftist leader practices what they preach. Socialism is for the crowd. They handle the money.

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Re: Biden is a right wing conservative, apparently.
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2021, 11:20:23 AM »
I really wish that this was some obscure conversation I had but it seems to be a general assertion now from a few people on the left. It's entirely possible that these people don't realize just how far off the reservation they have went. I can't actually fathom giving this guy any praise at all, or credit for that matter. If he wasn't such a piece of shit before he went senile I probably would feel bad for the guy, considering that he's such a puppet that I can pretty much assume whatever he says is coming from his handler.

A bumbling fool is what he is on the best of days, when we say he has dementia it's not like some early stages of occasionally confused but this guy is one who probably would need to stay in those specialize dementia care nursing homes that lock the doors so they patient's cant accidently wander outside.

Another thing is the left has this weird idea that they are the resistance or some shit against the corporations and the government, the counterculture. Despite being backed by nearly every major corporation and half the politicians yet they still screech about how corporations = right wing.
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