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« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2019, 10:28:18 PM »
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Over at TBP they are having a rational* discussion on the topic.  One poster poster there referred to the Fourth Trimester Abortion quote as "taken out of context."  (From memory)  "...put the infant on life support, and have a conference with the parents."  I'm not sure how you'd have to cut that to make it out of context.

*  I know, but it honestly sounds like a discussion by sane people.  First time for everything, I guess.

EDIT:  I was going to say, "Because no moderators have stepped in" but...
VA Gov thread Post 119:
said:  Not worth resigning for, different era, different values.

Moderator Text:  You have two warnings and two prior suspensions for posts like this, and this time, you seem so uninterested in engaging that you haven't even written a complete sentence. I'm suspending you for seven days.

Yep.  Somebody got a seven day suspension for using bullet point.

Some how I am not in shock.  Crazy I know.

Still I don't give a fuck.  The baby is out of the womb and breathing its own air.  The woman's rights end and the baby's rights begins.  That new born has the right to live damn it.

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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2019, 02:58:23 AM »
I'd support post-birth abortions if we could extend it at least until the little shit is 18 years old.

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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2019, 07:34:21 AM »
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Over at TBP they are having a rational* discussion on the topic.  One poster poster there referred to the Fourth Trimester Abortion quote as "taken out of context."  (From memory)  "...put the infant on life support, and have a conference with the parents."  I'm not sure how you'd have to cut that to make it out of context.

*  I know, but it honestly sounds like a discussion by sane people.  First time for everything, I guess.

EDIT:  I was going to say, "Because no moderators have stepped in" but...
VA Gov thread Post 119:
said:  Not worth resigning for, different era, different values.

Moderator Text:  You have two warnings and two prior suspensions for posts like this, and this time, you seem so uninterested in engaging that you haven't even written a complete sentence. I'm suspending you for seven days.

Yep.  Somebody got a seven day suspension for using bullet point.

Bleeding hell, this was me. Banned for using insufficient words making my point. I did wonder exactly what I had done to get banned - they don't tell you.

I didn't use many words because I didn't need to, I think I got my point across with eight. More likely I was banned for dissenting and not being terribly apologetic about it. No more posts late in the day for me.

My full post would have been "Just as you can't pass a law today that criminalizes someone for an act 30 years ago you shouldn't pass a judgement today that judges an act 30 years ago".

.....Hold on, fourth trimester abortion? I thought I was posting on someone who dressed up as a klansman in a college yearbook. Am I confused or did the discussion wander about. Fourth trimester abortion is murder - that's age 1-3 months.
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« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2019, 08:03:44 AM »
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I'd support post-birth abortions if we could extend it at least until the little shit is 18 years old.

If it's covered by insurance, then up to 26(?) if they still live at home.

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« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2019, 05:00:52 PM »
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I'd support post-birth abortions if we could extend it at least until the little shit is 18 years old.


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If it's covered by insurance, then up to 26(?) if they still live at home.


I've used "forth trimester abortion" as short for "poster child for planned parenthood" for decades.  You know, somebody who makes you want to invent a time machine and go back nine months before they were born and give Dad a condom:  "Trust me, you'll want to use this." :)

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Bleeding hell, this was me. Banned for using insufficient words making my point. I did wonder exactly what I had done to get banned - they don't tell you.

I didn't use many words because I didn't need to, I think I got my point across with eight. More likely I was banned for dissenting and not being terribly apologetic about it. No more posts late in the day for me.

My full post would have been "Just as you can't pass a law today that criminalizes someone for an act 30 years ago you shouldn't pass a judgement today that judges an act 30 years ago".

.....Hold on, fourth trimester abortion? I thought I was posting on someone who dressed up as a klansman in a college yearbook. Am I confused or did the discussion wander about. Fourth trimester abortion is murder - that's age 1-3 months.


To be fair to the TBP mod team, I think you are more right about why you were infracted.  They consider dissent to be shitposting.

Northam is an MD, not an attorney.  He was asked a question about abortion, and the quote above is the "cut" answer.  My guess is that he was talking about extremely premature or one step above stillborn infants - but I don't know.

In this thread I was making the same point:  Nobody was bothered (except me and Snowman I guess), but did people have a royal snitfit about when Northam was Young 'n' Stupid.

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« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2019, 06:29:12 PM »
Greetings!

I think abortion is evil, and wrong. I have always opposed abortion. Northam supports abortion? Then I hope he is defeated. I don't give a fuck about whatever he did or did not do 35 fucking years ago when he was in college. All of that kind of witch-hunting that seems so popular lately in our politics is, in general, fucking juvenile, pathetic, and sickening. Politicians, entertainers, scholars, athletes for fuck's sake. It's all ridiculous.

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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2019, 01:05:50 AM »
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Northam supports abortion?

He supports "a woman's right to choose" to kill a baby that's already been born! :mad:

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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2019, 01:25:19 AM »
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He supports "a woman's right to choose" to kill a baby that's already been born! :mad:

Greetings!

Wow. What a troglodyte Northam is! Our society is losing it's fucking mind!

So barbaric and evil.

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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2019, 03:34:29 AM »
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Greetings!

I think abortion is evil, and wrong. I have always opposed abortion. Northam supports abortion? Then I hope he is defeated. I don't give a fuck about whatever he did or did not do 35 fucking years ago when he was in college. All of that kind of witch-hunting that seems so popular lately in our politics is, in general, fucking juvenile, pathetic, and sickening. Politicians, entertainers, scholars, athletes for fuck's sake. It's all ridiculous.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Looks like I opened a can of worms here.  

Too late, he was elected last year - there's a bi-partisan movement demanding he resign, but he's in office as I type.  He ran on a really left of center platform:  All the "librul" talking points:  pro-choice, pro-gun control, centralized health care, you name it. He took all of the Potomac River valley, and enough of the rest of the state to win.

+1 on the rest of your post.

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He supports "a woman's right to choose" to kill a baby that's already been born! :mad:


As I said above, he's a doctor, not a lawyer, and suffers from recurrent hoof-in-mouth disease.  In his most recent press conference, he explained that he did Michael Jackson imitations, sometimes in blackface:  "Wanna see me Moonwalk?"  His detractors sharpened their knives and begged "Oh!  Please!  Pleasepleasepleaseplease, PLEASE!"  The wife stopped him though.

His earlier case of Hoof-in-Mouth was apparently in response to non-viable births.  What he meant (so I'm told) is the same conference a doctor has with a family at the end of life stage:  "Look.  Grandpa has about twelve hours to live.  With extraordinary measures, we can give him another twelve.  Then -maybe- another six after that.  Or we can call it right now."  Similar deal here:  "The infant is in the incubator, but the odds against survival are overwhelming - or we can end it right now."  Notham still comes across as "Well, the birth canal is still in the same building. Eh, close enough."

IMO, the current standard of "We do everything we can, and if we lose the infant, it wasn't through lack of trying" is fine.

A second problem nobody talks about is his energy policy.  Screw the environment and the Black underclass!  (Some have wondered whether he's really an elephant wearing a donkey mask).  

But the outrage is all about a 35 year old yearbook photo of somebody who might be Northam, with no context. :confused:

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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2019, 01:13:15 PM »
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Looks like I opened a can of worms here.  

Too late, he was elected last year - there's a bi-partisan movement demanding he resign, but he's in office as I type.  He ran on a really left of center platform:  All the "librul" talking points:  pro-choice, pro-gun control, centralized health care, you name it. He took all of the Potomac River valley, and enough of the rest of the state to win.

+1 on the rest of your post.



As I said above, he's a doctor, not a lawyer, and suffers from recurrent hoof-in-mouth disease.  In his most recent press conference, he explained that he did Michael Jackson imitations, sometimes in blackface:  "Wanna see me Moonwalk?"  His detractors sharpened their knives and begged "Oh!  Please!  Pleasepleasepleaseplease, PLEASE!"  The wife stopped him though.

His earlier case of Hoof-in-Mouth was apparently in response to non-viable births.  What he meant (so I'm told) is the same conference a doctor has with a family at the end of life stage:  "Look.  Grandpa has about twelve hours to live.  With extraordinary measures, we can give him another twelve.  Then -maybe- another six after that.  Or we can call it right now."  Similar deal here:  "The infant is in the incubator, but the odds against survival are overwhelming - or we can end it right now."  Notham still comes across as "Well, the birth canal is still in the same building. Eh, close enough."

IMO, the current standard of "We do everything we can, and if we lose the infant, it wasn't through lack of trying" is fine.

A second problem nobody talks about is his energy policy.  Screw the environment and the Black underclass!  (Some have wondered whether he's really an elephant wearing a donkey mask).  

But the outrage is all about a 35 year old yearbook photo of somebody who might be Northam, with no context. :confused:

Greetings!

Well, yeah, Crawford. Thank you. I had no idea of Northam's politics. He's a fucking Liberal moron. Politically, I hope he gets thrown the fuck out in the next election. Why the hell did people in the state of Virginia vote him into office? Why haven't more Americans realized that Liberals are fucking Communists that want to overthrow this country? Yeah, see what happened in Venezuela? That's some fucking Communism for you. Socialism is just slightly watered down Communism. That's what the fucking Liberals want. No guns for the people, lots of taxes, and take wealth away from working people to give it to lazy, shitty masses of low-IQ scum. Criminals running free, homeless everywhere, while the government has more and more power, and the Liberal elites get to live in gated communities of special snowflakes people that are part of the anointed elite class. Everyone else in society gets fucked. That's what Liberals want to do to our country. People need to wake the fuck up!

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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2019, 02:30:37 AM »
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The issue here is about how private employers - as well as simply private consumers - deal with accusations.


They deal with it by ditching anyone the least bit damaging to their brand, no matter the cost, which is why we have things like defamation laws to protect us from our fellow citizens. And until the courts start holding them accountable, they will continue to do so.

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I don't think that it's reasonable or possible to leave all judgement up to the courts.


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I'm not convinced that anyone really wants to leave things to the courts.


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But does that mean everything should be left to the courts


No, but keep in mind the Judicial Branch was created to opposed public opinion when in opposition to The Constitution, which is why they can, will, and should rule against it.

But their rulings mean nothing if they cannot be enforced.

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Do you feel the same way about public opinion on matching your politics?


The law needs to apply to everyone equally, regardless of politics, or it's worthless.

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I'm also not fond of leaving all determination of truth to the government. I think there is good reason to have a strong independent press who report on things against the government's view.


There is, but it's not the government shutting down these independent press channels but corporations and public mobs. So at this point the government needs to do their damn job and start protecting us against them.

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So the press and public opinion can be wrong - but my answer to that is to change culture to encourage more rational, empirical thought.


The 'court' of public opinion has never relied on rational empirical thought, never will, and it's naive and dangerous to think otherwise.

If we left things to public opinion, interracial marriage would still be illegal in Virginia, and same sex marriage would still be illegal in California.

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Nobody cared about his flat out support for post birth "abortion" but boy howdy is everyone in a rage about some silly college event.


#Priorities

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Bleeding hell, this was me. Banned for using insufficient words making my point.


Guess they don't like #Twitter.

I was banned for not posting quickly enough. If they hate you enough they'll find a reason.

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I think abortion is evil, and wrong.


But do you oppose artificial insemination? Because that kills embryos too.

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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2019, 08:05:57 PM »
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I'd support post-birth abortions if we could extend it at least until the little shit is 18 years old.


Remind me, how old are Bernie, Pelosi and Feinstein?