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Anyone here ever seriously consider moving or move out the the USA?

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oggsmash:
   I know it sounds hyperbolic, but I have had a notion around this idea for a decade or so.  The past 10 years have done nothing but make me realize its a better deal to just leave and go elsewhere.  Anyone here who has left the USA and moved to another nation and what did you find out on both positive and negative sides that were hard to figure out from research before hand.  I know the Pundit himself has some connection to Canada and now resides in (I think Uraguay) another country.  Those would be interesting to hear as Canada and the USA have enough similarities to be comparable. 

    I always see people in other discussions and media rolling out a "fight" sort of line, and I do think there is going to be some sort of fight.  But having never been very bothered with politics till around 2012 (shortly after my second child was born, odd how being a father can drag you into politics), I find the USA to be a horrific mess.  Corporations and special interests control too much, way too much military spending, and way too many bombs dropping on people that offers me and my family nothing but liability.  I am done.  I have been mostly done for a while, but its still a process to sell the idea fully to the family.

   I would also welcome input from people who have moved from other nations to the USA, as I think that perspective can be just as valuable.

Trond:
I have lived in Norway, Canada, and USA. All three are OK places to live. Some random observations:
-Norway always felt very safe, almost boring, but perhaps this is why people were so shocked when something horrible actually did happen (like the Breivik massacre). Politics used to be too far to the left decades ago (seriously my father had to apply to the government to get a phone) but has largely corrected itself (thank you democracy. you will see some communist-inspired art here and there, a remnant from when the Labour Party tried to control everything)
-Canada was also fairly secure and nice. A bit more like USA of course, but both my wife and I found their health care to be the worst of the three. We lived in Quebec which has some pretty insane language laws, driving English speakers out.
-USA has many things going for it. My wife and I both love the nature and natural parks here. People are generally easier to get to know than in Norway. Since we have good health insurance our care is actually the best of the three but YMMV. But USA also sometimes feels less safe, and you seriously have to get over the race hysteria. Many news outlets will turn any news story into a conflict about race. WTF America?

Ghostmaker:
I figure I might as well move to Singapore if things continue moving away from liberty here in the U.S.

I mean, if I'm going to live under autocrats, I want to live in someplace that doesn't fuck around with street crime.

HappyDaze:
Came close to taking a job in Germany,  but it was for the DOD.and most of the community I would have been serving would have been Americans, so probably not a fair comparison. Would have taken it if it had been a permanent position,  but it was a GWOT special (that, as predicted, didn't get extended).

Shasarak:

--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 07, 2021, 11:38:24 AM ---I figure I might as well move to Singapore if things continue moving away from liberty here in the U.S.

I mean, if I'm going to live under autocrats, I want to live in someplace that doesn't fuck around with street crime.

--- End quote ---

As the joke goes, Singapore is a "Fine" country.

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