Any Californians here?

[Spinachcat]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

[oggsmash]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

   Well, I do not blame a scorpion for stinging me if I pick it up.  When my own dog bites me, that pisses me off.

[Mistwell]

Fun fact.  Trump received more votes from California than any other state.  He received more than 6 million votes from Californians, more than from either Texas or Florida (or any other state, really).

I try to tell people that California has a lot of Republicans and Independents but it's always met with more stereotypes about California. Because "California: The Left Coast" makes for good clickbait.

[Spinachcat]

Well, I do not blame a scorpion for stinging me if I pick it up.  When my own dog bites me, that pisses me off.

Uniparty is gonna Uniparty.

[jhkim]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

I'm not fully disagreeing - the elite of both sides want a cheap, disposable workforce. But as implied by this, the problem isn't specific to California. Nevada and Texas both have more unauthorized immigrants as a percentage of population than California does.

Nevada: 7.1%
Texas: 5.7%
California: 5.6%

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/

[Spinachcat]

There's a census for illegal aliens??? LOL. No.

We have no idea how many illegals and criminal scum have invaded America - literally over decades from multiple countries and continents. Everything is just "best guesses" and the numbers are whatever each side wants them to be because roaches hide in walls, scurrying and breeding and don't line up to be counted.

[moonsweeper]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

I'm not fully disagreeing - the elite of both sides want a cheap, disposable workforce. But as implied by this, the problem isn't specific to California. Nevada and Texas both have more unauthorized immigrants as a percentage of population than California does.

Nevada: 7.1%
Texas: 5.7%
California: 5.6%

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/

So what you are saying is...

Nevada           210,000
Texas           1,600,000
California     2,200,000

[oggsmash]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

I'm not fully disagreeing - the elite of both sides want a cheap, disposable workforce. But as implied by this, the problem isn't specific to California. Nevada and Texas both have more unauthorized immigrants as a percentage of population than California does.

Nevada: 7.1%
Texas: 5.7%
California: 5.6%

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/

So what you are saying is...

Nevada           210,000
Texas           1,600,000
California     2,200,000

  In 2016, and very much estimated numbers of people in the USA illegally, but if accurate regarding proportions, could prove very interesting with another reaganesque amnesty.

[moonsweeper]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

I'm not fully disagreeing - the elite of both sides want a cheap, disposable workforce. But as implied by this, the problem isn't specific to California. Nevada and Texas both have more unauthorized immigrants as a percentage of population than California does.

Nevada: 7.1%
Texas: 5.7%
California: 5.6%

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/

So what you are saying is...

Nevada           210,000
Texas           1,600,000
California     2,200,000

  In 2016, and very much estimated numbers of people in the USA illegally, but if accurate regarding proportions, could prove very interesting with another reaganesque amnesty.

Hell, I thought the interesting bit of the study was that they estimated that the illegal alien population dropped by 1.5 million from 2007 to 2016.

[oggsmash]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

I'm not fully disagreeing - the elite of both sides want a cheap, disposable workforce. But as implied by this, the problem isn't specific to California. Nevada and Texas both have more unauthorized immigrants as a percentage of population than California does.

Nevada: 7.1%
Texas: 5.7%
California: 5.6%

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/

So what you are saying is...

Nevada           210,000
Texas           1,600,000
California     2,200,000

  In 2016, and very much estimated numbers of people in the USA illegally, but if accurate regarding proportions, could prove very interesting with another reaganesque amnesty.

Hell, I thought the interesting bit of the study was that they estimated that the illegal alien population dropped by 1.5 million from 2007 to 2016.

  Well, these estimates of illegal immigrant population seemed to be at 11 million for a very, very long time.   Now it seems some studies put the number much higher.  I suspect the nature of being in the country outside of being here lawfully, might make it very hard to be sure how many people are here illegally.

[moonsweeper]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

I'm not fully disagreeing - the elite of both sides want a cheap, disposable workforce. But as implied by this, the problem isn't specific to California. Nevada and Texas both have more unauthorized immigrants as a percentage of population than California does.

Nevada: 7.1%
Texas: 5.7%
California: 5.6%

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/

So what you are saying is...

Nevada           210,000
Texas           1,600,000
California     2,200,000

  In 2016, and very much estimated numbers of people in the USA illegally, but if accurate regarding proportions, could prove very interesting with another reaganesque amnesty.

Hell, I thought the interesting bit of the study was that they estimated that the illegal alien population dropped by 1.5 million from 2007 to 2016.

  Well, these estimates of illegal immigrant population seemed to be at 11 million for a very, very long time.   Now it seems some studies put the number much higher.  I suspect the nature of being in the country outside of being here lawfully, might make it very hard to be sure how many people are here illegally.

Yeah.  I imagine it is similar to the reason that they can't get a real accurate amount for how much money is transferred through the black market (drugs, etc.).

[oggsmash]

It wasn't just the Reagan amnesty disaster. It was the Uniparty loving illegals for their purposes. The left's elite wants poor ignorant voters and the right's elite wants cheap labor to drag down salaries and crime to scare voters. Californians got slammed by both sides and crumbled.

I'm not fully disagreeing - the elite of both sides want a cheap, disposable workforce. But as implied by this, the problem isn't specific to California. Nevada and Texas both have more unauthorized immigrants as a percentage of population than California does.

Nevada: 7.1%
Texas: 5.7%
California: 5.6%

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/

So what you are saying is...

Nevada           210,000
Texas           1,600,000
California     2,200,000

  In 2016, and very much estimated numbers of people in the USA illegally, but if accurate regarding proportions, could prove very interesting with another reaganesque amnesty.

Hell, I thought the interesting bit of the study was that they estimated that the illegal alien population dropped by 1.5 million from 2007 to 2016.

  Well, these estimates of illegal immigrant population seemed to be at 11 million for a very, very long time.   Now it seems some studies put the number much higher.  I suspect the nature of being in the country outside of being here lawfully, might make it very hard to be sure how many people are here illegally.

Yeah.  I imagine it is similar to the reason that they can't get a real accurate amount for how much money is transferred through the black market (drugs, etc.).

  I think reasons for lack of accuracy there are because of how many people with DC addresses get a taste.

[jhkim]

 

There's a census for illegal aliens??? LOL. No.

We have no idea how many illegals and criminal scum have invaded America - literally over decades from multiple countries and continents. Everything is just "best guesses" and the numbers are whatever each side wants them to be because roaches hide in walls, scurrying and breeding and don't line up to be counted.

Hell, I thought the interesting bit of the study was that they estimated that the illegal alien population dropped by 1.5 million from 2007 to 2016.

  Well, these estimates of illegal immigrant population seemed to be at 11 million for a very, very long time.   Now it seems some studies put the number much higher.  I suspect the nature of being in the country outside of being here lawfully, might make it very hard to be sure how many people are here illegally.

Obviously the numbers are estimated rather than exact. There's uncertainty, but there are bounds to how uncertain the estimates are. I've seen numbers for total ranging from 10 to 14 million. It's hard to give strict certainty on those, but we know it's not 3 million or 30 million.

Multiple estimates from different sources, though, still put Texas and California with roughly the same fraction of illegal immigrants. For example, the anti-immigration advocacy organization FAIR has different data here:

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2020-how-many-illegal-aliens-us

Their estimates are overall higher, but the relative state comparison seem roughly similar. They give around 8% in NV, 7% in CA and TX, 6% in AZ, and 5% in NM, FL and NY.

[oggsmash]

There's a census for illegal aliens??? LOL. No.

We have no idea how many illegals and criminal scum have invaded America - literally over decades from multiple countries and continents. Everything is just "best guesses" and the numbers are whatever each side wants them to be because roaches hide in walls, scurrying and breeding and don't line up to be counted.

Hell, I thought the interesting bit of the study was that they estimated that the illegal alien population dropped by 1.5 million from 2007 to 2016.

  Well, these estimates of illegal immigrant population seemed to be at 11 million for a very, very long time.   Now it seems some studies put the number much higher.  I suspect the nature of being in the country outside of being here lawfully, might make it very hard to be sure how many people are here illegally.

Obviously the numbers are estimated rather than exact. There's uncertainty, but there are bounds to how uncertain the estimates are. I've seen numbers for total ranging from 10 to 14 million. It's hard to give strict certainty on those, but we know it's not 3 million or 30 million.

Multiple estimates from different sources, though, still put Texas and California with roughly the same fraction of illegal immigrants. For example, the anti-immigration advocacy organization FAIR has different data here:

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/2020-how-many-illegal-aliens-us

Their estimates are overall higher, but the relative state comparison seem roughly similar. They give around 8% in NV, 7% in CA and TX, 6% in AZ, and 5% in NM, FL and NY.

  It is a lot closer to 30 million than 3 million.   At least according to some big brains over at Yale.    https://thehill.com/latino/407848-yale-mit-study-22-million-not-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-in-us

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Ahh, yes. And just think about the *hordes* of illegal immigrants pouring into the country all along the southern border. Each and every fucking day! But the goddamned Democrats LOVE IT! They love their policy of giving out money, health care, housing, and even VOTING rights to illegal immigrants.

Just let them pour in by the fucking millions!

That is going to ass-fuck this country in so many ways. But the good, sweet, Democrats don't give a fuck. Live in your shit-hole cities and choke on all that wonderful, vibrant duhversatay!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK