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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2020, 07:08:06 PM »
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Taking my wife out to the range this weekend.  She's getting ready to sign up for her Concealed Carry course and wants to shoot a bit first.  Haven't shot my AR-15 in awhile, so I'm stoked.  Need to get to the range more often.  Looking into a small 9mm or a .380 for her to carry.

Greetings!

Hey Spaniard! That sounds just fucking cool! I hope you have a fantastic time! Get some good food, too! It's a special kind of joy when your woman gets into guns and shooting, for sure.

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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2020, 07:19:54 PM »
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Greetings!

Hey Spaniard! That sounds just fucking cool! I hope you have a fantastic time! Get some good food, too! It's a special kind of joy when your woman gets into guns and shooting, for sure.

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Thanks brother!  She grew up shooting shotguns on her grandpa's farm, so she's not shy around firearms.  We're looking forward to making a day of it.  We'll definitely get some good food, as full service restaurants are opening up around here now.

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2020, 08:37:37 PM »
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Thanks for the heads up.  I already have a few 9mm, so I'm leaning toward the .380.

You can get a small frame .40 service trade in for hardly anything now that LEO is moving to 9mm, plus lots of ammo available. My .380 is just a holdout pistol so I have enough time to get to my shotgun or .45. There are TONS of sales if you look.

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2020, 09:23:12 PM »
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With all that has been going on, I've begun saving up for a gun.

I'm torn between a rifle or a pistol, and I'm trying to think of a reliable but also relatively cheap firearm (preferably under the $500 mark if possible) and in an affordable and easy to find caliber like .22 LR, .38 Special, 9mm, .223 Remington, stuff like that.


Depends what you're wanting it for. My safe recommendation is get yourself a 9mm (I'm a new convert to 9mm from .45). You can't go wrong with a Glock 19 - tons of aftermarket parts, and it's a damn reliable weapon. But if you want the new hotness at that pricepoint (and I'm about to buy two of them) - check out Smith&Wesson's M&P2. You can figure out if you want full-size, compact etc. based on your needs.

If you're looking for home-defense... Can never go wrong with a 12-gauge. Mossberg or Remington are both excellent (I'll err on the side of Mossberg). They're CHEAP. Reliable. And you need minimal customization (new mags). You need only decide on your cost. Mossberg 590's are *excellent* pump shotguns, I own one. But their semi-auto 930SPX tactical shotguns are... heheh... serious business for starting out.

The only reason I'd recommend an AR now over those is due to the fact that AR's will become harder to get a hold of if all the leftists have their say. So you may wanna consider getting one sooner than later. The question to build your own vs. buying one fully built should be based on how much you're willing to spend. if $500 is your range... I *highly* recommend getting a pre-built name-brand like Smith&Wesson's M&P 15. It's very high-quality, cheap. But at that price range it will be hard to get an AR with nice fancy bells and whistles to build up from cheaply. So get one that's reliable and avoid polymer receivers as much as possible. If you want something *high-quality* (and in gaming terms if you give a SM MP15 a 90% rating.. the jump to "high quality" is like 95% rating and another $400 in parts.

If you're wanting to build up from more modular system, you can go fully custom parts and build yourself. It's not as hard as it sounds. But you can also buy a pre-made like Sig M400 Tread. It's a SUPERB  AR15 platform that has a lot of excellent built-in features. But it retails about $900... but you can easily upgrade to crazy mode from there if you want.

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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2020, 09:57:29 PM »
I used to have quite an assortment. When I got married... my wife was, lets say... terrified of having this many weapons in the house.

I gave most of my arsenal to my brother. I kept my Colt 1911 and my Mossberg 590 12-gauge (currently using a Raptor-stock), and essentially got out of the whole "firearm hobby". At one point I had

M-14
.308 Henry Ranger lever-action
MAC-10 - It had options that were... special (I no longer own it).
Smith&Wesson .45 Revolver - it was a conversion from a .357, I was trying to consolidate my ammo and weapons.
AR 15 - it was a low-end M2 configuration. Used it for plinking, never took it too serious since I had an M14.
Remington Model 1100 'American Classic' 12-gauge.

I had some assorted .22's - a fun little pump, a couple of semi-auto rifles and a pistol. Just for plinking with my friends. I also had a couple of .357's (Taurus). I also had a full re-loading station, including drill-presses and other assorted equipment to make my own custom ammo.

NOW...

My wife is all-in as my kids are all adults and... you know... the times are changing.

Currently on tap...

About to pick up two more pistols. Probably going to get two S&M M&P 2.0's. I'm going with glass optics (haven't decided which). I'm also eyeballing the HKP30L for myself. All of them will have extra mods.

I'm custom building two AR15's. One will be pistol-framed the other will be a full size 16" cold-hammered barrel and both will be built from scratch. Going all metal receivers, mid-range gas-systems, Free-floating handguards, all flat-top, quad-rails on the long rifle, with flip-up irons and red-dot optics. Other mods I'll add later, especially drum mags, etc.

Last on the list - Smith & Wesson M&P 10. Basically it's an AR10 but it's fitted for the Creedmoor 6.5mm round. I'm still working on any goodies, and I'm considering getting a Spingfield M1SOCOM instead... but I'll probably stick the the S&M. This is my long-range weapon.

Heh I also called up my brother, and I'm getting my reloading gear back. I'll need to buy the dyes for the 6.5mm round... but I'll have to get that all set up, and I'll likely pick up a few more of my old weapons. My goal is to have all this set up before the New Year with CCP's for me and my whole family. (for sure me and my wife at minimum - but my daughter is totally down, so we'll see.)
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2020, 04:48:38 AM »
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If you're looking for home-defense... Can never go wrong with a 12-gauge. Mossberg or Remington are both excellent (I'll err on the side of Mossberg). They're CHEAP. Reliable. And you need minimal customization (new mags). You need only decide on your cost. Mossberg 590's are *excellent* pump shotguns, I own one. But their semi-auto 930SPX tactical shotguns are... heheh... serious business for starting out.

I got a 12-gauge Mossberg Maverick 88 with pistol grip and 18 inch barrel for home defense. The spread of buckshot should be pretty tight on impact since the line-of-sight in the house is a max of 30 feet. It's my first gun and I hadn't shot since the Navy Basic, but it seemed prudent to pick up with the stupid shit going on and me getting married soon.

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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2020, 04:51:16 AM »
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If you're looking for home-defense... Can never go wrong with a 12-gauge. Mossberg or Remington are both excellent (I'll err on the side of Mossberg). They're CHEAP. Reliable. And you need minimal customization (new mags). You need only decide on your cost. Mossberg 590's are *excellent* pump shotguns, I own one. But their semi-auto 930SPX tactical shotguns are... heheh... serious business for starting out.


I got a 12-gauge Mossberg Maverick 88 with pistol grip and 18 inch barrel for home defense. The spread of buckshot should be pretty tight on impact since the line-of-sight in the house is a max of 30 feet. It's my first gun and I hadn't shot since the Navy Basic, but it seemed prudent to pick up with the stupid shit going on and me getting married soon.

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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2020, 05:16:35 AM »
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Thanks brother!  She grew up shooting shotguns on her grandpa's farm, so she's not shy around firearms.  We're looking forward to making a day of it.  We'll definitely get some good food, as full service restaurants are opening up around here now.


Greetings!

Hell yeah, my friend! Make sure to give us an after-action report on how the weekend went, brother!

How did your shooting go? Did your weapons perform as you expected them to?

How did your wife's shooting go? Did she have a blast and enjoy herself? Did she shoot better than you did? *laughing* That happens sometimes!

What all yummy food did you get to enjoy? Any cool recommendations for particular restaurants or recipes or dishes?

Do you plan on purchasing any new weapons? What plans do you have for your next shooting weekend?

Do you reload, Spaniard? Have you added any special toys or gunsmithing work to any of your weapons? If so, what were their performances like? Did you experience any frustrations or problems?

Yes, I love all this stuff! Some people might think you are a little strange, being passionate, but that's ok brother! I'd love to hear all about how your weekend went at the range.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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"Delenda Est Parthia!"

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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2020, 05:30:04 AM »
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Depends what you're wanting it for. My safe recommendation is get yourself a 9mm (I'm a new convert to 9mm from .45). You can't go wrong with a Glock 19 - tons of aftermarket parts, and it's a damn reliable weapon. But if you want the new hotness at that pricepoint (and I'm about to buy two of them) - check out Smith&Wesson's M&P2. You can figure out if you want full-size, compact etc. based on your needs.

If you're looking for home-defense... Can never go wrong with a 12-gauge. Mossberg or Remington are both excellent (I'll err on the side of Mossberg). They're CHEAP. Reliable. And you need minimal customization (new mags). You need only decide on your cost. Mossberg 590's are *excellent* pump shotguns, I own one. But their semi-auto 930SPX tactical shotguns are... heheh... serious business for starting out.

The only reason I'd recommend an AR now over those is due to the fact that AR's will become harder to get a hold of if all the leftists have their say. So you may wanna consider getting one sooner than later. The question to build your own vs. buying one fully built should be based on how much you're willing to spend. if $500 is your range... I *highly* recommend getting a pre-built name-brand like Smith&Wesson's M&P 15. It's very high-quality, cheap. But at that price range it will be hard to get an AR with nice fancy bells and whistles to build up from cheaply. So get one that's reliable and avoid polymer receivers as much as possible. If you want something *high-quality* (and in gaming terms if you give a SM MP15 a 90% rating.. the jump to "high quality" is like 95% rating and another $400 in parts.

If you're wanting to build up from more modular system, you can go fully custom parts and build yourself. It's not as hard as it sounds. But you can also buy a pre-made like Sig M400 Tread. It's a SUPERB  AR15 platform that has a lot of excellent built-in features. But it retails about $900... but you can easily upgrade to crazy mode from there if you want.


Greetings!

WAIT. You did WHAT? You have left the .45 for the 9mm? Oh fuck man. Come on, my brother! .45 or die! *Laughing*

You know, back in the day, in Guns and Ammo Magazine, there used to be these EPIC debates and after-action reports comparing 9mm with the .45!:D Such fun!

I have heard though, through some advances in ballistic technologies, 9mm's have improved significantly from 10 or 20 years ago.

I'm always partial to my Glock 21 .45 pistol, 4th generation. It's a weapon of pure beauty and awesome accuracy and firepower, right out of the box! I have a friend who works at a local gun shop, he's also a Law Enforcement Officer. He says he carries a Glock .45, and has trusted his life with the weapon. When I asked his advice on getting any adjustments to my own weapon, I was surprised to hear him explain to me that "No, my friend. The Glock has been so well-engineered and designed, you don't need to do a thing with it. It is unlikely you would improve on it's accuracy or performance in any meaningful way, and any adjustments could actually decrease the effectiveness of your Glock pistol. I have had my Glock at my side for over 10 years in Law Enforcement, and it has never let me down, at the range, or in action." Damn! Fucking cool though.:D It surprised me, because in all the gun magazines, all the different experts always love tweeking guns with this, and with that. But my police friend firmly said no way. Interesting perspective!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security bred from familiar things and familiar ways. It narrows the mind. Weakens the body. And robs the soul of spirit and determination. Comfort is neither welcome nor tolerated here."

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but is doing what you have to, in spite of the fear."
"Let Death and Fire Be Their Portion!"
"Delenda Est Parthia!"

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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2020, 05:31:56 AM »
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I got a 12-gauge Mossberg Maverick 88 with pistol grip and 18 inch barrel for home defense. The spread of buckshot should be pretty tight on impact since the line-of-sight in the house is a max of 30 feet. It's my first gun and I hadn't shot since the Navy Basic, but it seemed prudent to pick up with the stupid shit going on and me getting married soon.

Greetings!

Hey Jeff! 12-gauge Mossberg Maverick 88 with pistol grip and a home defense set up? Damn, man. That's sweet! I love urban assault shotguns!

Semper Fidelis,

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"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security bred from familiar things and familiar ways. It narrows the mind. Weakens the body. And robs the soul of spirit and determination. Comfort is neither welcome nor tolerated here."

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but is doing what you have to, in spite of the fear."
"Let Death and Fire Be Their Portion!"
"Delenda Est Parthia!"

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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2020, 12:10:21 PM »
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me getting married soon.


Congratulations!

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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2020, 01:51:12 PM »
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Greetings!

WAIT. You did WHAT? You have left the .45 for the 9mm? Oh fuck man. Come on, my brother! .45 or die! *Laughing*

You know, back in the day, in Guns and Ammo Magazine, there used to be these EPIC debates and after-action reports comparing 9mm with the .45!:D Such fun!

I have heard though, through some advances in ballistic technologies, 9mm's have improved significantly from 10 or 20 years ago.

I'm always partial to my Glock 21 .45 pistol, 4th generation. It's a weapon of pure beauty and awesome accuracy and firepower, right out of the box! I have a friend who works at a local gun shop, he's also a Law Enforcement Officer. He says he carries a Glock .45, and has trusted his life with the weapon. When I asked his advice on getting any adjustments to my own weapon, I was surprised to hear him explain to me that "No, my friend. The Glock has been so well-engineered and designed, you don't need to do a thing with it. It is unlikely you would improve on it's accuracy or performance in any meaningful way, and any adjustments could actually decrease the effectiveness of your Glock pistol. I have had my Glock at my side for over 10 years in Law Enforcement, and it has never let me down, at the range, or in action." Damn! Fucking cool though.:D It surprised me, because in all the gun magazines, all the different experts always love tweeking guns with this, and with that. But my police friend firmly said no way. Interesting perspective!

Semper Fidelis,

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2020, 02:13:07 PM »
Mossberg 500 in the closet for home defense and for when the rioting and looting start.
Walther PPS 9mm is my carry gun
Ruger Security Six .357, was my dad's first handgun, he gave it to me several years back
A couple of .22 pistols (Taurus revolver and Browning Buck Mark)

Don't get to the range as often as I should. I don't particularly enjoy shooting, but I feel a responsibility to maintain a decent level of proficiency if I'm going to own them.
The word "problematic" is problematic

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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2020, 03:14:32 PM »
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That's the difference between "The Guy Who's Lived It" and "The Guy Who Just Writes Articles About It".

Trust "The Guy Who's Lived It" (says the guy who hasn't).

Greetings!

Hey Randy my friend! That's damn straight, isn't it? I love my Glock .45! I do tend to trust my policeman friend. Ten years in action at the range and on duty in the police. I cn testify that my Glock has always been reliable, powerful, and absolutely fucking accurate. I too, would trust my life with it. Great pistol!

*laughing* So funny, Randy! "The Guy Who's Lived It" and "The Guy Who Just Writes Articles About It". Aahhhhhhhh! Fucking hilarious!:D

Semper Fidelis,

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2020, 07:07:38 PM »
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Greetings!

Hell yeah, my friend! Make sure to give us an after-action report on how the weekend went, brother!

How did your shooting go? Did your weapons perform as you expected them to?

How did your wife's shooting go? Did she have a blast and enjoy herself? Did she shoot better than you did? *laughing* That happens sometimes!

What all yummy food did you get to enjoy? Any cool recommendations for particular restaurants or recipes or dishes?

Do you plan on purchasing any new weapons? What plans do you have for your next shooting weekend?

Do you reload, Spaniard? Have you added any special toys or gunsmithing work to any of your weapons? If so, what were their performances like? Did you experience any frustrations or problems?

Yes, I love all this stuff! Some people might think you are a little strange, being passionate, but that's ok brother! I'd love to hear all about how your weekend went at the range.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK


Had a great time!  We both actually shot pretty well, although I'd like to get a scope for my AR before we go out next time.  Need to pick up some more ammo.  It's expensive at the range.  My wife has decided she doesn't like semi-autos, so we are going to concentrate on a revolver for her.  Afterwards, we went out for BBQ at a local hangout.  Weird mix of families and bikers all the time.  Cool place, and their ribs are the best!

I don't do any reloads or smithing, but would like to learn.  No real frustrations other than my 9mm catches a casing once in a while in the ejection port.  I just need to send it in to Taurus to take a look.