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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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EOTB

Quote from: Pat on December 29, 2020, 12:30:17 AM
Both wings of the uniparty are on the catastrophically horrible side of the fiscal spectrum. Your delusion that the Democratics are better is just as risible as the contention at the Republicans are better. They both blow out the deficit.

They work together to blow out the deficit, each side using the other's blow out to gin up the outrage from their-team voters.  The Dems aren't the party of lunch pail labor anymore.  Tax cuts help big donor checks that go blue.   History/analysis of political fiscal tendencies from prior to 2008 is almost entirely irrelevant today. 
A framework for generating local politics

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Shrieking Banshee

Well, it really set in for me today that it's the end of the Trump presidency. 90% of all turnarounds are gone. I'm not holding out hope for some miracle.

Fraud or not, I don't want to go back to the time of pretend peace and unity. If you think I'm scum and want to piss on my leg-aight. But don't tell me its raining.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on December 29, 2020, 09:31:38 AM
Well, it really set in for me today that it's the end of the Trump presidency. 90% of all turnarounds are gone. I'm not holding out hope for some miracle.

Fraud or not, I don't want to go back to the time of pretend peace and unity. If you think I'm scum and want to piss on my leg-aight. But don't tell me its raining.
The black comedy in watching Sleepy Joe blather about 'healing' while people are demanding the persecution of everyone even tangentially aligned with the Trump administration is amazing.

Gonna be a bumpy four years. But hey, this is the future they chose. Don't blame us if it ends poorly.

Shrieking Banshee

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 29, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
Gonna be a bumpy four years. But hey, this is the future they chose. Don't blame us if it ends poorly.
The utterly infuriating thing is that they will. No commie has ever admitted to just having a bad idea-just bad actors or sabotage.


Heeding the words of another commentator I heard online, il get involved more in local politics because those are things I can actually control.

Tubesock Army

Quote from: consolcwby on December 28, 2020, 09:45:29 PM
"Regardless of what people say about or to me, I WILL NEVER BE SILENCED WITH THE TRUTH IN MY HANDS! The truth will set all free from the bonds of lies. ... it is given freely to all who listen." -Anonymous
While I like to keep things light, lately I have found my self and others having a lack of maturity and vision. A thread was closed because of this. Let's keep things civil and lively!
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The Left is in Despair, their killing game is almost over:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/mathematician-bobby-piton-finds-500000-unique-last-names-pennsylvania-sophisticated-state-actor-able-optimize-desired-outcome/

Bobby Piton, the mathematician who testified at the Arizona voter fraud hearing dropped a bombshell this weekend. Piton revealed this weekend that he examined just over 9 million records in Pennsylvania and has identified 521,879 unique last names. In other words, these people have no parents, siblings, aunts, uncles or cousins who share the same last name (phantom voters). Pennsylvania has 695,430 Fewer People in the top 1000 Last Names. Bobby Piton found that there were fewer people with common surnames such as Smith, Jackson, Johnson. Bobby Piton essentially discovered where those 695,000+ illegal ballots came from in Pennsylvania. President Trump was ahead of Joe Biden by over 700,000 votes on election night in Pennsylvania and within a few days after the election, hundreds of thousands of ballots appeared for Joe Biden. Between 695,000 to 958,000 voters just got up and vanished out of Pennsylvania! Based on Piton's findings, it appears that a centralized actor was calling the shots. Bobby Piton says a sophisticated State Actor was able to optimize a desired outcome for both the state of  Georgia and Pennsylvania.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/evidence-foreign-influence-2020-election-nevada-secretary-state-caught-sending-voter-data-list-pakistani-firm-linked-isi/

Catherine Engelbrecht is the Founder and President of True The Vote the nation's largest voters' rights group. In November True the Vote wrote the Nevada Secretary of State for the eligible voter list report. When the Secretary of State responded True the Vote was shocked to see that waqas@kavtech.net was cc'ed. True the Vote later wrote the Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers about the date breach. The letter obtained exclusively by Breitbart News that when the email arrived, "I was shocked to see the inclusion of another email address in the CC line." https://v1.nitrocdn.com/PtUefQrfncdsWOjilqcqdvGyQbUvpoWC/assets/static/source/rev-8b632d2/wp-content/uploads/engelbrecht-1-666x479.jpg
https://twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1343564483583766530

Whats next?
Amazingly, the Electoral College vote can be challenged under federal law and the United States Constitution. Republican electors in seven contested states cast alternate votes for Donald Trump to keep their legal options open. State legislatures retain their constitutional authority to offer alternative slates of electors. And Congress is the ultimate arbiter of the race since the ballot count can be contested during the joint session on January 6. If Brooks and one Senator object to certain state elector slates, then all bets are off. On January 6, Republicans may control the Senate and have strength in the House, just one Senator could step up and begin to change the course of history!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/23/fitton-hope-for-a-failed-election/
https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/28/mo-brooks-dozens-in-the-house-will-sponsor-objections-to-biden-video/

Republican Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert and a group of other GOP figures filed a lawsuit Sunday against Vice President Mike Pence in an effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. The lawsuit focuses on Pence, who will oversee the upcoming Jan. 6 meeting of Congress to count states' electoral votes and finalize President-elect Joe Biden's victory over President Donald Trump: https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/28/louie-gohmert-republicans-sue-mike-pence-overturn-presidential-election-biden-kelli-ward/

This could mean TREASON:
https://twitter.com/Lrihendry/status/1343550784286371841

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

GameDaddy

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 29, 2020, 11:09:25 AM

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

Prove it is not true. Just because you say so, means absolutely nothing here. You have to offer compelling and true evidence. Until then, these allegations should be investigated further.
Blackmoor grew from a single Castle to include, first, several adjacent Castles (with the forces of Evil lying just off the edge of the world to an entire Northern Province of the Castle and Crusade Society's Great Kingdom.

~ Dave Arneson

HappyDaze

Quote from: GameDaddy on December 29, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 29, 2020, 11:09:25 AM

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

Prove it is not true. Just because you say so, means absolutely nothing here. You have to offer compelling and true evidence. Until then, these allegations should be investigated further.
You are defending the posting of nonsense and demanding "compelling and true evidence" only for the counterclaim. You're a fucking idiot.

Mistwell

Quote from: consolcwby on December 28, 2020, 09:45:29 PM
"Regardless of what people say about or to me, I WILL NEVER BE SILENCED WITH THE TRUTH IN MY HANDS! The truth will set all free from the bonds of lies. ... it is given freely to all who listen." -Anonymous
While I like to keep things light, lately I have found my self and others having a lack of maturity and vision. A thread was closed because of this. Let's keep things civil and lively!

You called me "Zionist Scum" because I disagreed with you on the election topic and masks. The topic of Israel had never come up so when I rightly pointed out that's an antisemetic slur in this context, you had no defense at all. You are in no position to be claiming others lack maturity and vision and that others should keep it civil.

You want to keep it civil? Cool, how about you apologize for calling me a Zionist scum? That would go a long way with me.

VisionStorm

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 29, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: GameDaddy on December 29, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 29, 2020, 11:09:25 AM

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

Prove it is not true. Just because you say so, means absolutely nothing here. You have to offer compelling and true evidence. Until then, these allegations should be investigated further.
You are defending the posting of nonsense and demanding "compelling and true evidence" only for the counterclaim. You're a fucking idiot.

Says the fucking idiot declaring supported claims to be "nonsense" without bothering to debunk their evidence, provide evidence against them, or even offer some sort of argument. I bet you think that the burden of proof is 100% on the guy who already provided half a dozen links to support his claims, but you not liking what's behind those links doesn't make them automatically false, retard.

Ghostmaker

How very Soviet of Sockpuppet, to simply handwave opposition away as suffering mental illness.

Tubesock Army

Quote from: GameDaddy on December 29, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 29, 2020, 11:09:25 AM

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

Prove it is not true. Just because you say so, means absolutely nothing here. You have to offer compelling and true evidence. Until then, these allegations should be investigated further.

The proof has been quoted many times in this thread. Many bipartisan checks, audits and investigations have been done. The problem isn't lack of proof, the problem is that Republicunts keep moving the goalposts. And you will again, and again, making any type of proof into an exercise in futility. I don't care if you morons labor under every misconception in the book. Like I said, Im here to point and laugh, and y'all are making it way too easy.

jhkim

Going over consolcwby's links:

Quote from: consolcwby on December 28, 2020, 09:45:29 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/mathematician-bobby-piton-finds-500000-unique-last-names-pennsylvania-sophisticated-state-actor-able-optimize-desired-outcome/

I'm unwilling to pay $20 to check this result, but it should be pretty easy - and given that it is easy, why hasn't he made his data available? The PA voter rolls are available for that charge here:
https://www.pavoterservices.pa.gov/pages/purchasepafullvoterexport.aspx

As for his conclusion -- first of all, having a unique last name on that list just means that person is the only *Pennsylvania registered voter* with that last name, not the only person. But even disregarding that, even completely unique last names aren't that rare. The same thing was found in the last census, for example:
QuoteCensus respondents reported about 6.3 million surnames in 2010. Of these, only 11 were reported more than a million times each. The vast majority — 62 percent — were reported only once.
Source: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2017/08/what-is-in-a-name.html

So there are around 4 million people with completely unique last names in the U.S. And as mentioned, to be unique in the Pennsylvania voter rolls doesn't require being completely unique. A known common case of unique last name is hyphenation -- those who change their last name to be a combination with their spouse, like "Kim-Stevens" or "Holland-White". Then there are just people who are the last of their family, or who have changed their last name for other reasons.

Quote from: consolcwby on December 28, 2020, 09:45:29 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/evidence-foreign-influence-2020-election-nevada-secretary-state-caught-sending-voter-data-list-pakistani-firm-linked-isi/

I don't have the full story here, but voter roll information is *public domain information*. Anyone in the U.S. can get it and copy it, by law. That's why True the Vote was able to get it with no certification, simply by requesting it from the Secretary of State. With public domain information, there's no reason to keep it out of the hands of foreign-based companies. It's not secret. That's why there have been many analyses by people like Bobby Piton. You can get the PA data from the link I gave above, for example.

This is not classified data that has to be kept out of foreign hands.


Quote from: consolcwby on December 28, 2020, 09:45:29 PM
Amazingly, the Electoral College vote can be challenged under federal law and the United States Constitution.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/23/fitton-hope-for-a-failed-election/
https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/28/mo-brooks-dozens-in-the-house-will-sponsor-objections-to-biden-video/
https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/28/louie-gohmert-republicans-sue-mike-pence-overturn-presidential-election-biden-kelli-ward/

This is about predictions of the future, rather than factual claims about what happened in the election. I'm fine with seeing what will happen on January 6th.

HappyDaze

Quote from: VisionStorm on December 29, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 29, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: GameDaddy on December 29, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 29, 2020, 11:09:25 AM

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

Prove it is not true. Just because you say so, means absolutely nothing here. You have to offer compelling and true evidence. Until then, these allegations should be investigated further.
You are defending the posting of nonsense and demanding "compelling and true evidence" only for the counterclaim. You're a fucking idiot.

Says the fucking idiot declaring supported claims to be "nonsense" without bothering to debunk their evidence, provide evidence against them, or even offer some sort of argument. I bet you think that the burden of proof is 100% on the guy who already provided half a dozen links to support his claims, but you not liking what's behind those links doesn't make them automatically false, retard.
Careful there, buddy. Last time you shit yourself, you got a thread locked.

And yes, I think the guy posting the links should take the time to verify what he's linking to.

VisionStorm

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 29, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on December 29, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 29, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: GameDaddy on December 29, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 29, 2020, 11:09:25 AM

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

Prove it is not true. Just because you say so, means absolutely nothing here. You have to offer compelling and true evidence. Until then, these allegations should be investigated further.
You are defending the posting of nonsense and demanding "compelling and true evidence" only for the counterclaim. You're a fucking idiot.

Says the fucking idiot declaring supported claims to be "nonsense" without bothering to debunk their evidence, provide evidence against them, or even offer some sort of argument. I bet you think that the burden of proof is 100% on the guy who already provided half a dozen links to support his claims, but you not liking what's behind those links doesn't make them automatically false, retard.
Careful there, buddy. Last time you shit yourself, you got a thread locked.

And yes, I think the guy posting the links should take the time to verify what he's linking to.

Whatever, "shitstain".

You're just gonna dismiss whatever anyone posts anyways, so I don't know what "verification" anyone could do that would pass your shifting standards.

HappyDaze

Quote from: VisionStorm on December 29, 2020, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 29, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on December 29, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 29, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: GameDaddy on December 29, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 29, 2020, 11:09:25 AM

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

Prove it is not true. Just because you say so, means absolutely nothing here. You have to offer compelling and true evidence. Until then, these allegations should be investigated further.
You are defending the posting of nonsense and demanding "compelling and true evidence" only for the counterclaim. You're a fucking idiot.

Says the fucking idiot declaring supported claims to be "nonsense" without bothering to debunk their evidence, provide evidence against them, or even offer some sort of argument. I bet you think that the burden of proof is 100% on the guy who already provided half a dozen links to support his claims, but you not liking what's behind those links doesn't make them automatically false, retard.
Careful there, buddy. Last time you shit yourself, you got a thread locked.

And yes, I think the guy posting the links should take the time to verify what he's linking to.

Whatever, "shitstain".

You're just gonna dismiss whatever anyone posts anyways, so I don't know what "verification" anyone could do that would pass your shifting standards.
You ignorant bitch, shitstain bowed out of this thread pages ago.

And, no, I don't "dismiss whatever anyone posts." I dismiss crap from sites that have routinely been shown to put up untrue bullshit. Sadly, those seem to be the sites many here turn to for their support. Beyond that, I do look over even these, and I've even agreed with others (like that bastard, SHARK) that some things looked bad (even if later proven not to be what it appeared, there was the definite appearance of impropriety). However, most of what gets posted is as meaningful as the pictures of your shit-smeared walls.